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To be mad my folks gatecrashed xmas?

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merrychristonabike · 28/12/2024 07:31

Me DH and our kids went to a hotel for xmas - a tradition we adopted to escape the 'where will you be at xmas?' from mum and dad every year. We've invited them and my in-laws before, but it wasn't fun as my parents were clearly put out they were sharing the time with in-laws.
On arrival on xmas eve, my parents were there to 'surprise' us and we were furious. My husband later asked them why they were there and my dad flipped, telling my husband he'd always had his suspicions about him and generally being a dick. Dad didn't wish DH merry Christmas, ignored him at dinner and left without saying goodbye to either of us,
It ruined the 3 night stay. They didn't bring the kids' gifts - I think so we will still have to go see them and I just can't face it. There's a bit of back story to their behaviour, but it's too long for here other than them being overbearing and intense. And I also just want to know AIBU? And what's your advice yo navigate this?

OP posts:
Pallisers · 04/01/2025 21:47

Trillie · 04/01/2025 18:57

Why don’t you just spend Christmas with them as they want? From personal experience I can tell you that however irritating they are and however they overshadow the day, there is sadly a strong likelihood that there will come a Christmas when it will break your heart that they aren’t there to drive you up the wall.

That day will not come. I sometimes wonder if people who ride roughshod over other people's lives, who don't care who they hurt or inconvenience or upset justify it by saying "well someday I won't be here and they'll miss me then" The sad thing is that people who are angry and inconsiderate and selfish are not missed when they die - no matter how much their hapless children loved them.

SpringIscomingalso · 04/01/2025 21:43

howaboutchocolate · 28/12/2024 08:39

that's not generous, it's selfish. Generous people let children enjoy other people's generosity too. Her parents sound like they're all me me me, who cares what santa/your parents /other GPs got you, look at what we have got you instead. It's so overbearing.

Her parents are bullies and out of order.

Projectme · 04/01/2025 21:38

Sounds like your parents are still trying to control you and what you do OP. Always managing to make them look the victims. They view you as an extension of themselves and require you to do as you're told by them. They look to you to give them their happiness.

My DM has always been the same as this. Guilt tripping and emotional blackmailing me. It's very very hard to move away from these emotional ties whilst still trying to maintain some kind of nice relationship because I'm sure your parents have been lovely at other times in your life. You have my sympathies as I know how hard it is to navigate.

I would equally be furious that they turned up at the hotel. And for the way your F spoke to your DH. I imagine your DH is fed up of seeing the effect all the emotional blackmail is having on you and chose to question your parents at the time rather than leave it, I.e. allowing their dreadful behaviour to go unquestioned.

SpringIscomingalso · 04/01/2025 21:33

WillowTit · 28/12/2024 08:19

but it was christmas day
no place for being rude
season of goodwill and peace

From Christian perspective yes
Even though as a Christian I have boundaries which I keep and that might mean goodwill from a very looong distance

Winterskyfall · 04/01/2025 21:29

polyesterdress · 04/01/2025 19:49

It always amazes me how many people want to excuse and sympathise with abusive people. How incredibly fortunate some of these posters are to have no experience of this level of manipulation and gaslighting from their own parents.

For those of us who had parents like yours OP, you are NOT being unreasonable. Go no contact for at least 6 months if not forever. I can't honestly see the point in maintaining any relationship with people like this. You will never win, you will never be good enough - and I'm sorry but they don't love you or care about you (or their grandchildren - they'd rather withhold their Christmas presents so they can get their own way). They don't see you as a person in her own right. You are just an extension of them, a means to project their sense of self. Your boundaries will only ever been offensive to them - it's all about them getting what they want. It's awful.

But if you do stay in touch, I'd strongly hint that you're going back to the same hotel. Make them think they've got the upper hand. And then go away somewhere else.

Or they are like her parents and don't see a real problem with the behaviour. I often think people advise others to be tolerant of bad behaviour if they themselves are badly behaved.

Codlingmoths · 04/01/2025 21:24

I think you need to take a decent length complete break from them. You probably need to block them for this or at minimum mute them. Your dad sounds like you cannot make any progress with him and there is no benefit talking.

Dibbydoos · 04/01/2025 21:22

@merrychristonabike I'm annoyed for you and hope you managed to get some good times in with the kids over the festive break in any case.

Ref your parents - your DD sounds toxic and your DM adds to this. I think you're right, they thought they weren't invited versus they wanted to surprise you, but whatever the motive they behaved appallingly.

This year I refused to leave my 22yo son on it's own and spend Christmas day at a restaurant with my DM. She took Uxbridge, but eventually my DSis hosted her. I've done this for the last 4 years and on Boxing Day my DM was rude and attacked me - her old age dementia is escalating, so I've put distance between us. I may call her in a few weeks but as I am significantly less stressed and happier I may leave it longer...

I think some space and time may work for you too. I'd suggest only visiting your DPs as often as you do your in-laws and see if that helps. Your DH was right to challenge them and support you BTW, so good for him.

Good luck.

Nanny0gg · 04/01/2025 21:17

Bubbletrouble2 · 04/01/2025 20:27

Maybe they just wanted to spend Christmas with u.. imagine ur kids made u feel like this after all u did for them.. I think ur been very unreasonable

Post that again in English, after you read all the OP's posts properly

Nanny0gg · 04/01/2025 21:15

Trillie · 04/01/2025 18:57

Why don’t you just spend Christmas with them as they want? From personal experience I can tell you that however irritating they are and however they overshadow the day, there is sadly a strong likelihood that there will come a Christmas when it will break your heart that they aren’t there to drive you up the wall.

Oh enough of the emotional blackmail!

Not everyone's experience will be the same as yours! Ever thought of that?

Barney16 · 04/01/2025 21:12

I was about 48 when I realised I would never please my mother no matter how much I tried and believe me I had spent the previous 48 years trying very, very hard. I just stopped being bothered by her. I still see her just as much but I take absolutely no notice of her nonsense. I feel very sorry for you, them turning up was outrageous. Next year, go abroad and don't tell them where you are going.

Nanny0gg · 04/01/2025 21:10

Cartolmed · 04/01/2025 18:47

As a Gransnetter, I feel so sorry for your parents. Without knowing the full background, I think you were hard and possibly rude and your husband equally so. They wanted to share with you and their grandchildren and were perfectly entitled to book into the same hotel. One of you needs to be the "better person" - why not let it be you and gently let things go by going with the children to collect the presents and being gacious about it. Make sure the children, if they are old enough, drop a little card to thank them for the gifts, it means such a lot. In time I hope things heal properly.

I'm more than old enough to be a Gransnetter (there's a reason I'm here and not there)

And in my opinion, you couldn't be more wrong

Have you read all of the OP's posts?

SpringIscomingalso · 04/01/2025 21:09

merrychristonabike · 28/12/2024 08:06

Totally get this. Have tried multiple times to have an adult conversation with both parents about their behaviour and my dad flies into rage and then doesn't speak to me for weeks.
I also have to tread carefully with him as I worry about the ramifications for mum at home with him when he gets angry.
There is no grown ip behaviour from him.

why she is STILL with him

SpringIscomingalso · 04/01/2025 21:06

Do a cottage stay; I have done quite of these Christmasses

SpringIscomingalso · 04/01/2025 21:04

Goodness. Your father is horrible

Mamalifehasjustbegun · 04/01/2025 21:01

merrychristonabike · 28/12/2024 07:56

They booked in for the christmas package same as us, but booked 2 nights instead of 3 to "give us space".
We had xmas dinner together.

Wow they are really overstepping the boundaries. I can empathise, my parents often disregard my boundaries (though I don’t think they would ever do this tbh) and my father and DH are not on speaking terms anymore. After a year of therapy where I have realised how much this affects me, I feel a lot more relaxed setting my boundaries firmly and being the boundary too. I recommend therapy to unpick it all for sure, they probably won’t change but you have to find a way to deal with this.

Verbena17 · 04/01/2025 20:57

merrychristonabike · 28/12/2024 07:42

Ha. It's the same one we've gone to the last 4 Christmases and the one we invited them to once. I didn't think they'd turn up!

Next time, book to go to Center Parcs but don’t tell them which village.

Plus without day passes they won’t get in. And villas are only for a set number of guests and so it’s impossible to simply turn up.

Leading up to Xmas, just say “we don’t know what we’re doing yet”.

SockFluffInTheBath · 04/01/2025 20:42

Meandmydoggie · 04/01/2025 19:02

I’m shocked by your reaction. Your parents must have wanted to see you and to share Christmas. The fact that it didn’t work out is unsurprising if your reaction towards their attempt to be friendly (however poorly executed) was met with such antagonism.
I think you are being very selfish

Really? Are you a pain in the arse DM or MIL?

OP go somewhere else next year and don’t tell them. Better still go to your ILs.

BlueSilverCats · 04/01/2025 20:34

Trillie · 04/01/2025 18:57

Why don’t you just spend Christmas with them as they want? From personal experience I can tell you that however irritating they are and however they overshadow the day, there is sadly a strong likelihood that there will come a Christmas when it will break your heart that they aren’t there to drive you up the wall.

No.

CheekyHobson · 04/01/2025 20:31

My husband later asked them why they were there and my dad flipped, telling my husband he'd always had his suspicions about him and generally being a dick. Dad didn't wish DH merry Christmas, ignored him at dinner and left without saying goodbye to either of us

It's beginning to look a lot like pro-jec-tiiioooon...

BlueSilverCats · 04/01/2025 20:31

Bubbletrouble2 · 04/01/2025 20:27

Maybe they just wanted to spend Christmas with u.. imagine ur kids made u feel like this after all u did for them.. I think ur been very unreasonable

Imagine reading the thread or at least OP's posts so you have at least a vague idea what you're talking about.

Oh, wouldn't that be just wonderful? A true Christmas miracle!

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 04/01/2025 20:30

Maybe they just wanted to spend Christmas with u.. imagine ur kids made u feel like this after all u did for them.. I think ur been very unreasonable

Have you read all the OPs posts, or did you just read the opener and nevertheless feel moved to opine?

She has abusive parents.

Bubbletrouble2 · 04/01/2025 20:27

Maybe they just wanted to spend Christmas with u.. imagine ur kids made u feel like this after all u did for them.. I think ur been very unreasonable

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 04/01/2025 20:26

Another influx of posters who haven't RTFT, and haven't even bothered to read all of the OPs posts.

IamMoodyBlue · 04/01/2025 19:59

I really feel for you. It seems you're in a ni-wun situation at the moment with no easy fixes.
Christmas is built up so very much with huge, unrealistic expectations. I absolutely agree that, next Christmas, going away somewhere else is a good plan. Keep it totally secret. No hints, even to your kids.
Meanwhile, remember you can't please everyone and that's not your role in life anyway. Your priorities are your DH & children.
I think the only thing you can do is to try to keep calm but stick to your guns.
Crying every day? Actually that sounds like a way of trying to manipulate you. Emotional bullying to put it bluntly.
My best wishes to you for a happier, peaceful 2025.

DPotter · 04/01/2025 19:54

This won't be a GDPR breach. They will have called up and asked to be put next door to Mr. & Mrs. MerryChristonaBike. No room numbers would have been given out when doing this when reserving their room.
IF however, the receptionist actually gave out their room number to them, then that is a security breach, which should not have happened, but not a GDPR breach

Many years ago, when GDPR wasn't even a twinkling in a bureaucrat's eye, I worked on hospitals, both general and psychiatric. To even admit someone with a particular name was an inpatient was seen as a breach of confidentiality. The hotel shouldn't have even admitted to having the OP's family booked in, let alone arrange rooms and table settings without both parties agreeing.

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