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To be mad my folks gatecrashed xmas?

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merrychristonabike · 28/12/2024 07:31

Me DH and our kids went to a hotel for xmas - a tradition we adopted to escape the 'where will you be at xmas?' from mum and dad every year. We've invited them and my in-laws before, but it wasn't fun as my parents were clearly put out they were sharing the time with in-laws.
On arrival on xmas eve, my parents were there to 'surprise' us and we were furious. My husband later asked them why they were there and my dad flipped, telling my husband he'd always had his suspicions about him and generally being a dick. Dad didn't wish DH merry Christmas, ignored him at dinner and left without saying goodbye to either of us,
It ruined the 3 night stay. They didn't bring the kids' gifts - I think so we will still have to go see them and I just can't face it. There's a bit of back story to their behaviour, but it's too long for here other than them being overbearing and intense. And I also just want to know AIBU? And what's your advice yo navigate this?

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WearyAuldWumman · 28/12/2024 10:13

merrychristonabike · 28/12/2024 07:42

Because I never thought for a moment they'd turn up! 🙈

Not quite the same thing, but we learned the hard way that you keep things on a need to know basis.

My late husband's ex and her boyfriend booked themselves into the sister hotel of our honeymoon hotel...abroad. (Fortunately, she hadn't done her homework. Our hotel shared facilities with hers, but ours was actually a mini-bus ride away: we checked out the 5 star hotel once and decided that we preferred our 4-star. We didn't bump into them once.)

Yousay55 · 28/12/2024 10:12

Families can be so complicated and feelings are heightened at Christmas.
I suppose you know that next time you want to be alone you simply don’t tell them.
I hope things improve in your relationships in the future.

WillowTit · 28/12/2024 10:11

imnotthevirginmary · 28/12/2024 09:39

Stay home next year but tell them you're going away!

ii would

do they have a key to your house?

Rosscameasdoody · 28/12/2024 10:10

Soontobe60 · 28/12/2024 08:38

But they didn't book to stay in your room, and you didn't have to have your christmas lunch with them either. When I've been on holiday with other families, weve spent a great deal of our time doing seperate things.

They booked the room next door and got the hotel to seat them together for meals for the duration of the stay. The intention was clear.

Roserunner · 28/12/2024 10:10

It really does sound like our parents are very similar! The amount of times we've gone out places with them and they make the grandkids take posed pics just to show off, they don't seem to see how forced the smiles are, even their own photos they look miserable.

In a way I'm glad they blew up at our DC as it's given us a specific thing to focus on and realise their behaviour isn't acceptable and it makes it easier to explain if other people ask.

It is hard seeing other families getting along nicely and wondering why we can't have that. It can feel like you're going crazy or being unreasonable or over sensitive but I think that's just how they've wanted me to feel so they get their way.

Sorry it's been a quite therapeutic talking about this!

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 28/12/2024 10:09

Rosscameasdoody · 28/12/2024 10:00

And why did the hotel confirm it, even disclosing the room numbers so M&D could get a room next door, and be seated with them for every meal ? The hotel have been complicit and l think breached GDPR, and l’d be demanding an explanation.

I was thinking this. Supposing they were stalkers or something? It's not on for the hotel to amend your booking on the say so of someone else who claims to be a family member - they should have confirmed the change to the meals with you.

And they gave out your bedoom number!

TwistedWonder · 28/12/2024 10:09

Of course YANBU and you were far more restrained than I would have been

They deliberately gatecrashed your plans, trampled over your blind toes and made it all about them. I’d be so furious I would have to go NC for a while until the dust settled

They sound as selfish and self absorbed as fuck. A pair of narcissistic nightmares.

You are absolutely not in the wrong. Do not apologise. They’re in the wrong not you.

Rosscameasdoody · 28/12/2024 10:08

Pipconkermash · 28/12/2024 09:05

Are some posters on here, the ones laying into the OP, really so dense as to not recognise that she is the decades-long victim of her parents’ insane and abusive behaviour? 😵‍💫

Te answer to that is a resounding yes !!

merrychristonabike · 28/12/2024 10:07

Pumpkinpie1 · 28/12/2024 09:42

It’s impossible to impose boundaries on parents who have no boundaries.

You are married, have children and it’s now up to you how you do Christmas and who with.

Your Parents are incredibly rude and self absorbed. Don’t let their ridiculous self absorbed behaviour spoil your Christmas memories.

I can’t see a way forward unless you go NC or Low C with these crazies ! I certainly wouldn’t be tolerating their bs in the future x x

We were supposed to be meeting up with them and DS and her family today and I've said we're now not going.
My mum has since been on the phone wailing that she's devastated and that I've ruined her Christmas and why am I stopping my children from seeing her? She never sees it from any other perspective than her own. She's always the victim and I'm always the perpetrator in her eyes.
They saw us Monday, were at the hotel Tue, Wed and left Thursday. She was then on at me to come to theirs yesterday (didn't) as well as meeting up at a restaurant with DS and fam today. I think that's excessive to want to see us that much over xmas. Meanwhile, we still haven't seen ILs yet.

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AstonScrapingsNameChange · 28/12/2024 10:04

OP I feel for you, sounds awful.

The reason they surprised you was because they knew you'd say no if they asked. It was to deny you agency and choice and that's bullying.

When you say you 'were furious', do you mean you felt furious and tried to hide it or you actually behaved in a furious way and shouted at them in the restaurant? I assumed you meant the former.

You are allowed boundaries and you are allowed to get your needs meet too. They need to take responsibly for their behaviour, which may mean they end up spending a lot of time just the two of them. They aren't 'alone' as some posters have manipulatively described it, they have each other.

They are adults, they could choose to behave better and if they don't, you are allowed to choose to not be in their company.

MyDeftDuck · 28/12/2024 10:02

I suggest that next year you, OH and the children stay home but mention to NO ONE what these plans are. Let the overbearing parents think you're going to the same hotel and carry on with their plans to gatecrash again.

In hindsight, it is not wise to share information and much as I love my family I most certainly do not want to go on holiday with then nor would I dream of gatecrashing their plans.

merrychristonabike · 28/12/2024 10:02

jellybe · 28/12/2024 09:42

Can understand why this has annoyed you/ upset you. Let the dust settle then talk to your mum as it sounds like your dad has anger issues, I would be concerned that you mum is needing support if your dad is so easily angered.

Going forward could you not talk to your sister and alternate so the year you are with your in laws she is with your parents and vis versa?

Yes. And I've known/saw this for years and tried to help her but she won't do anything about it.
The result is, I try not to enflame situations to protect her but that only serves to facilitate his behaviour and so it goes on in one big horrible cycle.
She's not entirely blameless in that she's also not behind the door in her constant remarks and observations about me/DH/kids etc.

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DisappearingGirl · 28/12/2024 10:01

They sound absolutely atrocious OP. I can't believe people are defending them! Who books themselves into the same hotel as someone else without asking? Especially over Christmas! That's totally trampling over your boundaries. And it's clear from what you say about the backstory that this was a calculated move.

Rosscameasdoody · 28/12/2024 10:00

hattie43 · 28/12/2024 09:08

Why did you tell them which hotel you were going to was my first.thought .

And why did the hotel confirm it, even disclosing the room numbers so M&D could get a room next door, and be seated with them for every meal ? The hotel have been complicit and l think breached GDPR, and l’d be demanding an explanation.

AChickenPooAndABiscuit · 28/12/2024 09:59

Headingtowardsdivorce · 28/12/2024 09:16

Exactly what I was thinking!

Yep me too! It’s great that some people clearly have lovely parents and GPs, but that’s not the case for OP.

nouveaunomduplume · 28/12/2024 09:57

OP I've been in your shoes. We booked a city break. Family (who I don't get on with) got wind of it and invited themselves along.
Rather than put up with them, we cancelled it.
Don't tell them of your plans in future. The more you can cut down your contact with them, the better your life will be. Flush the turds in your life.

merrychristonabike · 28/12/2024 09:56

Roserunner · 28/12/2024 09:24

I completely get why you're upset and my parents sound very similar to yours. We have to go round for visits every other week or we get moaned at but they then just stick the TV on! They also seem to think we see in-laws more than them etc when it's not the case.

We've had a big falling out with my parents this year due to how they have started to bully our DC and I haven't talked to or seen them for almost a month now. It's been a hard situation but they don't see how they are in the wrong and I'm not going to let them treat our child the way they've been treating me. They also can't stand my DH and moan about all sorts of things they believe he's done wrong over the years. He doesn't see them anymore and they still blame him for things.

It's been stressful not seeing them as I know they're upset but I also know they care more about how it looks to others than my feelings. They are very selfish and manipulative. The positive of not talking to them at the moment is we had a lovely peaceful Christmas for the first time since we had children. We also got to see relatives that they usually make me feel guilty for spending time with. I'm expecting a message from them at some point saying they have presents for us to collect as they also think they can bribe us round with gifts. They don't seem to understand we're not bothered about the presents, we just want to be respected as a family.

I've found a lot of people don't understand if their parents aren't the same. We've put up with so much from mine but it's so hard for others to see as from the outside they just appear to be caring parents/grandparents. I know my dad is absolutely furious that I'm finally standing up to them as they just can't see they do anything wrong.

Sorry that turned out long. I hope you manage to find a way for them to listen to you and take your feelings into account.

I'm so sorry this is your experience but grateful you posted as it sounds so familiar to mine. Especially the putting how-it-looks-to-others above your feelings!
This was partly the reason they booked to join us apparently, as if they'd gone out for a meal just the two of them, then "how would that look to folk that we're not with our family?"
The worst thing is - I do sympathise and feel sorry for them and wish it wasn't like this, but it's only like this because of how they are. It's got worse as they've got older and I had a family of my own. Before my DH and kids I indulged them always - and now I concentrate on my own family it's clearly not going down well.

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MultilingualMummy · 28/12/2024 09:54

merrychristonabike · 28/12/2024 07:56

They booked in for the christmas package same as us, but booked 2 nights instead of 3 to "give us space".
We had xmas dinner together.

You need to stop rewarding their behaviour. Setting boundaries isn’t enough you have to be willing to enforce them. So next time something like this happens you turn to your parents and say “well hope you enjoy your stay” and you do not eat dinner with them. You don’t socialise with them. It’s not fair to your husband to be subjected to people who openly denigrate him like that especially in front of his children.

TitaniasAss · 28/12/2024 09:51

Justhere65 · 28/12/2024 09:23

You all sound very immature and where is the Christmas spirit? I feel sorry for your children.

Bear in mind the the OP tried to have a nice Christmas with her children. It was the OPs parents who decided that the Christmas that the OP and her husband had chosen for their children wasn't appropriate and changed it to suit what they wanted.

Rosscameasdoody · 28/12/2024 09:48

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 28/12/2024 09:05

Their reactions are not your problem though. It is not fair on your In-laws to never get to spend Xmas with you just to appease your parents. I agree you need therapy to learn how to deal with their behaviour. You need to learn not to be affected by their emotional manipulation.

Nice bit of victim blaming there. And therapy would be for OP to understand why her parents behave the way they do, not to learn how to just suck up more of the same. How about rather than OP learning how not to be affected by their behaviour, they learn how not to inflict it on her in the first place. Sometimes no contact is the only reasonable way forward.

jellybe · 28/12/2024 09:42

Can understand why this has annoyed you/ upset you. Let the dust settle then talk to your mum as it sounds like your dad has anger issues, I would be concerned that you mum is needing support if your dad is so easily angered.

Going forward could you not talk to your sister and alternate so the year you are with your in laws she is with your parents and vis versa?

Pumpkinpie1 · 28/12/2024 09:42

It’s impossible to impose boundaries on parents who have no boundaries.

You are married, have children and it’s now up to you how you do Christmas and who with.

Your Parents are incredibly rude and self absorbed. Don’t let their ridiculous self absorbed behaviour spoil your Christmas memories.

I can’t see a way forward unless you go NC or Low C with these crazies ! I certainly wouldn’t be tolerating their bs in the future x x

imnotthevirginmary · 28/12/2024 09:39

Stay home next year but tell them you're going away!

Conniebygaslight · 28/12/2024 09:38

Your parents sounds dreadful OP. YANBU

CautiousLurker01 · 28/12/2024 09:38

merrychristonabike · 28/12/2024 08:39

Yes @Soontobe60 they asked for a room next door to us. They asked to be seated next to us for every meal for the 4 days.

I’d also, then, take this up with the hotel. It’s a GDPR violation as they revealed not only that you were staying there as guests but also indirectly your room details. Would they do this for an abusive partner tracking down his ex? It’s illegal.

Honestly, I would absolutely take the hotel to town for this, they are as much part of the the issue because had they not confirmed that you and your children were staying there, your parents would not have booked. I’d insist on a refund and mention contacting a solicitor.