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To be mad my folks gatecrashed xmas?

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merrychristonabike · 28/12/2024 07:31

Me DH and our kids went to a hotel for xmas - a tradition we adopted to escape the 'where will you be at xmas?' from mum and dad every year. We've invited them and my in-laws before, but it wasn't fun as my parents were clearly put out they were sharing the time with in-laws.
On arrival on xmas eve, my parents were there to 'surprise' us and we were furious. My husband later asked them why they were there and my dad flipped, telling my husband he'd always had his suspicions about him and generally being a dick. Dad didn't wish DH merry Christmas, ignored him at dinner and left without saying goodbye to either of us,
It ruined the 3 night stay. They didn't bring the kids' gifts - I think so we will still have to go see them and I just can't face it. There's a bit of back story to their behaviour, but it's too long for here other than them being overbearing and intense. And I also just want to know AIBU? And what's your advice yo navigate this?

OP posts:
thepariscrimefiles · 28/12/2024 12:04

WillowTit · 28/12/2024 10:52

whatever the fuck they want?
stay at a hotel?
if op really didnt want to see her parents they could have asked for their own table

OP's parents asked the hotel to put them on a table next to OP and her family so there was no getting away from them.

I presume that either all the other tables were booked and/or OP didn't want to witness the hysterics from her parents if they moved tables away from them.

LePetitMaman · 28/12/2024 12:03

WillowTit · 28/12/2024 10:52

whatever the fuck they want?
stay at a hotel?
if op really didnt want to see her parents they could have asked for their own table

Lmao are you for real.

Yeah that fixes everything, well done. Instead of have them forced on her table, OP could have told them they weren't to sit with them. So then the piece of shit manipulative bully parents could do their whole performance, wailing at their evil daughter, cruelly denying them Christmas with their family. Then they could glower/wail/scowl/"ohhhh I can't possibly eat now, you've ruined my Christmas" from three tables away amongst the other diners. What a fucking glorious idea.

The stupidity on this post is almost equal to the mother's manipulation. Almost.

Some people have no idea, no idea at all. And having no idea and being called out for frankly stupid "suggestions" doesn't make other posters "rude." OP is clearly from a toxic, narcissistic family. Who have trampled all over her. Beaten her down to always require their approval and trained from childhood that she must appease them.

Yeah, she should just tell them to back off. Dumb old OP, why hasn't she thought of that before eh. That easy innit hun.

Some people have no idea what it's like to feel sick when you hear tyres pull up unexpectedly on your drive. How these people affect your relationships. Bully you into adulthood, often the only family you have, certainly the only parents you have ever known.

Congratulations if you have no idea. But at least attempt to read OPs posts.

MellowCritic · 28/12/2024 12:02

winterdarkness · 28/12/2024 07:36

How did they know which hotel you were in?

A wild guess but maybe op told them... I mean it's just as likely the parents hacked into ops email and found out that way... it's 50 50 really 🙄

thescandalwascontained · 28/12/2024 12:01

Hwi · 28/12/2024 11:50

If you are going to accept the inheritance, have the decency to show the minimum grace to your parents.

Minimum grace? This isn't about showing them minimum grace. This is about her parents overstepping boundaries, throwing their toys out of the pram if they don't get their own way on anything, being jealous and petty about their daughter's inlaws, and stomping all over anything the OP and her husband want as a family and crying (mum) or going into a rage (dad) when they speak up for themselves.

LostTheMarble · 28/12/2024 12:00

Hwi · 28/12/2024 11:50

If you are going to accept the inheritance, have the decency to show the minimum grace to your parents.

If someone said you can have a few thousand pounds in 50 years time but you have to be treated like shit on a weekly bases, would you agree to it? Or is it only from the happenstance of birth that putting up with poor behaviour and complete disregard of boundaries is acceptable?

Edit to add: if the op is in a position to be able to afford Xmas in a hotel, I’d go as far as saying that there’s no great need for a possible (and never guaranteed anyway) parental inheritance. No one should toe the line for a ‘maybe inheritance’.

Nanny0gg · 28/12/2024 12:00

Hwi · 28/12/2024 11:50

If you are going to accept the inheritance, have the decency to show the minimum grace to your parents.

Who's mentioned inheritance?

Who even knows if there'll be one?

Why are you making stuff up?

(But, to be fair, the OP needs the compensation!)

thepariscrimefiles · 28/12/2024 11:59

despairnow · 28/12/2024 10:37

Oh my God talk about drama.
Just talk it out in person

OP's parents are obviously not people that she can have a sensible conversation with. Having seen OP and the children on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday this week, her mum is wailing because OP won't be seeing them today. This is not normal behaviour.

Tikityboo · 28/12/2024 11:58

Looks like there are plently of disingenuous posters just sparring for their own kicks. Screen them out and scroll on by as they are just derialing the thread.

Nanny0gg · 28/12/2024 11:56

Jennyathemall · 28/12/2024 11:10

Yes I had the same thought. Wouldn’t everyone be bored out of their brains?

Hotels tend to go all out if they're open at Christmas

They have activities for the children - often including Father Christmas
They have parties and entertainment
Christmas dinner

We are not talking a Premier Inn here

And it may well be in a lovely part of the country with walks and other things nearby

We don't know. But if the OP has done it more than once it can't be that miserable can it?

thepariscrimefiles · 28/12/2024 11:55

WillowTit · 28/12/2024 10:27

@kazzer2867
you laughed at this post
i dont think this is an appropriate use the the Reaction button

She obviously thought you were either trying to be funny or that you were being ridiculous.

You are definitely ridiculous in policing people's use of the Reaction button.

BlueSilverCats · 28/12/2024 11:55

Hwi · 28/12/2024 11:50

If you are going to accept the inheritance, have the decency to show the minimum grace to your parents.

You spelled doormat wrong.

Manxexile · 28/12/2024 11:55

JLou08 · 28/12/2024 07:54

I agree with this. Why spoil the day for everyone, you could have had a nice day together and spoke about it afterwards. It's not surprising your dad was put out if DH had a go at him. They may have honestly thought it would be a nice surprise for you all.

But surprises are never nice and often backfire...

BrightonFrock · 28/12/2024 11:54

They didn't need your permission to be at the hotel.

Oh come on. This is ridiculous. I don’t need permission to book a table in the restaurant where my friends are having a romantic dinner, but it would still be fucking weird to do it.

Nanny0gg · 28/12/2024 11:52

GlomOfNit · 28/12/2024 11:07

But they didn't 'gatecrash your Christmas', they surprised you on Christmas Eve at the hotel and it seems from your posts, left later that evening. How precious do you have to be to see this as 'ruining your Christmas' (that, apparently, you'd rather spend in a sterile hotel room than at home if it risks coming into contact with your parents)?

You sound joyless and mean-spirited. We all have relatives who are a bit much to take over Christmas but it clearly means a lot to your parents to see you for at least a few hours and you were rude and miserable.

Did you do Comprehension at school?

IWillAlwaysBeinaClubWithYouin1973 · 28/12/2024 11:52

thescandalwascontained · 28/12/2024 11:47

"Gee, mum. So it's okay for you to rock up uninvited and literally ruin our Christmas and make it all about what you and dad want, but 'I've' ruined your Christmas. I don't think so. We will not be seeing you for the rest of the holidays. You've already crashed and taken over our 3 days of designated family time. We're also going to take some time to think about how this is going to work going forward, because you and dad have made it very clear you don't respect me as an independent adult who is married with a family of her own, that you don't respect boundaries, and that you don't respect anyone's ideas who don't align with your own. It's also clear you don't respect my DH, the man I married. We are a family unit, a team, and you don't respect that. Please don't call or message me or DH. We will reach out when we're ready. If you do, I will block you on X and X, and I'd rather not have to do that."

Something along those lines. In writing. Then mute them.

Edited

Thats a very clear and comprehensive message, I hope the OP feels able to send something like that (and ignore the posters who seem to be responding to a different thread!)

Cavello · 28/12/2024 11:52

I have lived your life OP, so you have my sympathies! It's their way or the highway, I ended up going no contact as I couldn't cope with their demanding and manipulative behaviour anymore.

My dad is also an aggressive blow-up angry personality. I did come to realise he was like this due to my mother's incessant whining at him about whatever was bothering her, so he would do things to appease her, which would make whatever situation worse, as it was in direct opposition to my wants. Complete Nightmare! Anyway just a thought for you about your parent's dynamics and your father's actions, as my mother is manipulative and sounds like your mum. Oh and my parents also withheld Christmas presents from their grandchildren as we weren't complying with their demands.

Good luck OP.

Nanny0gg · 28/12/2024 11:51

usernother · 28/12/2024 11:04

Good grief. If I was them, I wouldn't want to see you again. Needlessly nasty way to behave

Sounds perfect

Hwi · 28/12/2024 11:50

If you are going to accept the inheritance, have the decency to show the minimum grace to your parents.

IWillAlwaysBeinaClubWithYouin1973 · 28/12/2024 11:50

Sounds like you'd be better off on the Stately Homes thread rather than AIBU, although to be fair OP I think the majority of people "get it" here. It sounds like you've done everything you can, you've had sit down conversations with them and nothing has changed so it will have to be grey rock, low contact or no contact. Can you do that? Start by not getting the presents?

Stretchanoctave · 28/12/2024 11:48

GlomOfNit · 28/12/2024 11:07

But they didn't 'gatecrash your Christmas', they surprised you on Christmas Eve at the hotel and it seems from your posts, left later that evening. How precious do you have to be to see this as 'ruining your Christmas' (that, apparently, you'd rather spend in a sterile hotel room than at home if it risks coming into contact with your parents)?

You sound joyless and mean-spirited. We all have relatives who are a bit much to take over Christmas but it clearly means a lot to your parents to see you for at least a few hours and you were rude and miserable.

Are we reading the same thread? You seem to be making up your own version of events.

thescandalwascontained · 28/12/2024 11:47

merrychristonabike · 28/12/2024 10:07

We were supposed to be meeting up with them and DS and her family today and I've said we're now not going.
My mum has since been on the phone wailing that she's devastated and that I've ruined her Christmas and why am I stopping my children from seeing her? She never sees it from any other perspective than her own. She's always the victim and I'm always the perpetrator in her eyes.
They saw us Monday, were at the hotel Tue, Wed and left Thursday. She was then on at me to come to theirs yesterday (didn't) as well as meeting up at a restaurant with DS and fam today. I think that's excessive to want to see us that much over xmas. Meanwhile, we still haven't seen ILs yet.

"Gee, mum. So it's okay for you to rock up uninvited and literally ruin our Christmas and make it all about what you and dad want, but 'I've' ruined your Christmas. I don't think so. We will not be seeing you for the rest of the holidays. You've already crashed and taken over our 3 days of designated family time. We're also going to take some time to think about how this is going to work going forward, because you and dad have made it very clear you don't respect me as an independent adult who is married with a family of her own, that you don't respect boundaries, and that you don't respect anyone's ideas who don't align with your own. It's also clear you don't respect my DH, the man I married. We are a family unit, a team, and you don't respect that. Please don't call or message me or DH. We will reach out when we're ready. If you do, I will block you on X and X, and I'd rather not have to do that."

Something along those lines. In writing. Then mute them.

Nanny0gg · 28/12/2024 11:47

WillowTit · 28/12/2024 10:27

@kazzer2867
you laughed at this post
i dont think this is an appropriate use the the Reaction button

It was very appropriate

Nanny0gg · 28/12/2024 11:46

Runningribbit · 28/12/2024 10:21

It does sound quite full on.

But I’m stuck on you wanting their gifts for the kids but not their company.

She doesn't...

Nanny0gg · 28/12/2024 11:45

MyLadyGreensleeves · 28/12/2024 10:22

But we all see things from our own perspective including you.

You say your mum sees herself as the victim and you as the perpetrator but here you are seeing yourself as the victim and her as the perpetrator.

So, you both see things the exact same way but with the starring roles reversed.

I would also be interested to know what tone and which words your husband used when he asked your dad why he and your mum were at the hotel.

Edited

If it had been me the tone would have been very sharp

Nanny0gg · 28/12/2024 11:45

Babadookinthewardrobe · 28/12/2024 10:18

I agree with this. It wouldn’t have killed you to make them feel welcome instead of the family leaving them alone and then your DH bollocking them for trying to change that. And no, I am not a mum or MIL in this situation, but it does seem unkind and unnecessary.

Have you really not read the OP's posts?

The unkind and selfish ones were the OP's parents