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Am I being ungrateful?

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Owhatsoccurring · 27/12/2024 05:13

I asked my mother this year not to buy me anything for Xmas - this is the 3rd year of asking. I said that if she really wanted to get us something, then please make a charity donation on our behalf and buy some lego/ toys for a local food bank collecting.

She buys for my kids and that’s enough for me.

Also, I have a house full of stuff that I am desperately trying to get rid of! I don’t need anything and genuinely am happy if it’s just my kids having presents. It’s enough for me! I have all the stuff I could ever need and I don’t want more stuff when I am desperately trying to declutter years of stuff.

She ignored my wishes. Said she didn’t want to donate to charity and bought me a load of stuff - a pashmina that I will never wear, a bag that she would use but I will never use, at least 5 other things- toiletries, etc etc.

I know this might sound ungrateful but it really upset me. I am desperately trying to declutter. She also bought me stuff that she likes but feels like it’s for the person she wants me to be and I am not. She knows this too.

It actually felt so disrespectful that I have asked for 3 years running now for no presents. But she makes me feel like I am being ungrateful - and I feel guilty then because I don’t want any of it. And angry that she can’t respect my wishes.

Luckily she wasn’t with us for Xmas this year- I was actually quite angry and upset by it all.

I hate that it makes me seem ungrateful when I keep asking her every year not to buy me stuff.

Aibu?

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Drearycommuter · 27/12/2024 08:54

This would annoy me too. Is there anything at all you would enjoy as a gift that isn’t a charity donation? As it sounds like she’s not going to change and if you specifically asked for something you wanted you might find it all less infuriating.

Doodleflips · 27/12/2024 08:42

Owhatsoccurring · 27/12/2024 05:34

I guess it’s about boundaries too. People speak a lot on here about boundaries with partners or friends or in work etc.

My mother has no respect for my boundaries or views and this felt like an example of that. I ask something repeatedly over years - she ignores it repeatedly.

Is there an ongoing theme about not feeling heard?
It Is absolutely ok to feel however you feel, especially if it’s bringing something up that’s affected you in childhood. Your feelings are valid.

you can only put boundaries in for yourself though.

icecreamsundaeno5 · 27/12/2024 08:09

The mother only buys what the mother wants because op tells her to donate to charity.

If op asked for a new winter coat, or sent her a link for a new kettle, or said she'd love a John Lewis voucher, then everyone would be happy.

I don't know either of them, but mum isn't the only one exerting control imo. Being furious and upset because your mum bought you gifts is an odd response unless she's abusive and you're nc. OP is annoyed because she told her mum what to do and her mum had the temerity to ignore it. Probably because she wants to be a normal mum who buys nice things for her daughter at Christmas. As pp said, she's at least 70 and unlikely to change so why not make it work for both of you.

sashh · 27/12/2024 07:44

buttonousmaximous · 27/12/2024 07:33

Ask her for a voucher or money. Or ask for one more expensive item that would sell well. Sell it on Vinted and keep the cash

I think you are missing the point. The mother buys what the mother wants not what is asked for.

buttonousmaximous · 27/12/2024 07:33

Ask her for a voucher or money. Or ask for one more expensive item that would sell well. Sell it on Vinted and keep the cash

thebluehen · 27/12/2024 07:31

My mother didn't raise me and has severe mental illness.

She does exactly this. Buys me things she would like or thinks I should have. Has no idea who I am, what I like or dislike etc despite me telling her.

I am a size 8-10. She buys me size 14 clothes. I spend a lot of time giving brand new things to charity shops or selling on vinted. It's time consuming and unnecessary as I don't want any of it. I honestly think she does it to be unpleasant to me. She doesn't have a lot of money so it's very frustrating. I go through phases of not taking things from her but she always seems to give them to other family members who are less blunt with her.

Tomorrowistheday · 27/12/2024 07:22

I would find this extremely upsetting and annoying too OP.

It's the toal disregard for your wishes and what you have asked that is hurtful. My family always totally disregarded me in everything, which is why I eventually went no contact them.

I also sympathise with the idea of gifting to charity instead of exchanging unwanted and unneeded items.

sashh · 27/12/2024 07:19

I get it OP.

It's not about the gifts it is about you not being listened to and that reminds you of when that has happened before, it probably takes you back to being 10.

I would not even open them. I would either give them to a charity shop or save them for next year and regift them back to her.

LivingLaVidaBabyShower · 27/12/2024 07:04

Is she in the wrong? Yes.
Are your feelings valid? Yes.
Will i pt change? Probably not.

She's at least 70 based on your age so highly unlikely - at this age you just wont change her.

Put it on vinted for a few pounds just to get it out of the house or literally just put it in the bin.
I used to waste a lot of energy on this with a relative and i dont even know how but ive given it up to jesus and its incredibly liberating. I feel so much freer and dont have this negative stressful energy weighing me down.
We visited around mid dec and got the usual boxes (plural) of crap. I let my dd keep the only age appropriate things (1 book and 1 soft toy) everything else just went to the skip on the way home.

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Fairyliz · 27/12/2024 07:00

Owhatsoccurring · 27/12/2024 05:46

I don’t even know what it is. She buys for my kids. I buy her what she asked for - a voucher.

I don’t know why she just can’t hear what I am saying! She knows that w are trying to get rid of years of stuff too- I also inherited a load of scarves from an auntie and she knows this too, knows I am trying to get rid. Yet buys me a cream pashmina knowing I have 4 already as I inherited all this stuff and it’s overwhelming me. It’s so bizarre!!!

Sorry but this sounds more like a you problem, you ‘inherited’ scarfs?
Surely this was more of a clearance job, put scarfs in bag drop off at charity shop?

Calmhappyandhealthy · 27/12/2024 06:58

Owhatsoccurring · 27/12/2024 05:19

I guess it’s a reaction to a similar thing happening throughout my life- she steam rollers over anything I ask/ has no respect for me as an individual. And my reaction is the sum of that!

Absolutely......so disrespectful and rude

Try to spin it positively......there will be SO many people who would love those gifts (charities eg) .....give the gifts away with a glad heart and a straight middle finger 🥰

Wolfpa · 27/12/2024 06:57

I have known people who have insisted that they don’t want any gifts just to complain that they haven’t been given anything and we should have known that they were being modest. Does your mum know that you actually don’t want a gift

SoftandQuiet · 27/12/2024 06:55

I think this is an example of the bigger problem OP. She doesn’t listen to you or respect your opinion in general which is why this seemingly insignificant issue upsets you so much.

Kehlani · 27/12/2024 06:55

Hottoffeesauce · 27/12/2024 06:46

When my kids were little, my mum did this too. Bought them loads (and I mean tonnes of 'crap') every Christmas. I soon realised, it wasn't about what the kids (or I) wanted, it was about her love of going shopping and our wishes didn't come into it. I would load it all up into my car and drop it all off at the local charity shop - job done!

Dropping it off to charity isn’t so easy for everyone. Our high street has one car park which is a long walk from the charity shops.

The high street is pedestrianised so you can’t even just quickly stop and drop it off.

Hottoffeesauce · 27/12/2024 06:46

When my kids were little, my mum did this too. Bought them loads (and I mean tonnes of 'crap') every Christmas. I soon realised, it wasn't about what the kids (or I) wanted, it was about her love of going shopping and our wishes didn't come into it. I would load it all up into my car and drop it all off at the local charity shop - job done!

Owhatsoccurring · 27/12/2024 06:16

I also think once you get to a certain point in life (I am 51), your values change.

The absolute irony of all of this is that she lives in a super minimalist house & has no clutter and is actually quite critical of our house and how it’s not very tidy.

Yet she adds to it by buying me more crap!

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Owhatsoccurring · 27/12/2024 06:13

CreationNat1on · 27/12/2024 06:08

It might be a mental health issue of hers. It's madness, but you can't control her, just your reaction to her.

Sell the stuff ebay or FB market place or regift. Do you know anyone that would want the gifts? Can you donate them to a women's refuge? Same with the clothes you inherited, can you donate?

Yea that’s a nice idea actually. Women’s refuge - I have been trying to sort the clothes stuff to get rid- will do some research over next few weeks!

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Ratisshortforratthew · 27/12/2024 06:12

icecreamsundaeno5 · 27/12/2024 05:55

I really love Christmas, and choosing gifts for my grown up children and grandchildren. I would be quite upset myself if they said that I couldn't buy them gifts.

I would probably think that they didn't really mean it, or were worried about me spending a lot of money.

Couldn't you compromise by suggesting something you actually want next year? That way your mum gets to buy her daughter a gift, and you get something you don't consider 'clutter.' There must be something surely, even if it's practical or a voucher.

This would drive me potty if you were my mum. It’s really rude to disregard what someone asks of you because you think you know better. YOU might like giving gifts but they don’t want to receive them. Since gifting is meant to be about the recipient and not the giver, you should give people the gift of respecting their wishes if they ask for no gifts. They mean it.

OP you are not BU.

CreationNat1on · 27/12/2024 06:08

It might be a mental health issue of hers. It's madness, but you can't control her, just your reaction to her.

Sell the stuff ebay or FB market place or regift. Do you know anyone that would want the gifts? Can you donate them to a women's refuge? Same with the clothes you inherited, can you donate?

notatinydancer · 27/12/2024 06:05

icecreamsundaeno5 · 27/12/2024 05:55

I really love Christmas, and choosing gifts for my grown up children and grandchildren. I would be quite upset myself if they said that I couldn't buy them gifts.

I would probably think that they didn't really mean it, or were worried about me spending a lot of money.

Couldn't you compromise by suggesting something you actually want next year? That way your mum gets to buy her daughter a gift, and you get something you don't consider 'clutter.' There must be something surely, even if it's practical or a voucher.

If people don't want presents you should respect that.
It's not about what you want.

Owhatsoccurring · 27/12/2024 06:00

icecreamsundaeno5 · 27/12/2024 05:55

I really love Christmas, and choosing gifts for my grown up children and grandchildren. I would be quite upset myself if they said that I couldn't buy them gifts.

I would probably think that they didn't really mean it, or were worried about me spending a lot of money.

Couldn't you compromise by suggesting something you actually want next year? That way your mum gets to buy her daughter a gift, and you get something you don't consider 'clutter.' There must be something surely, even if it's practical or a voucher.

Yes, I get what you are saying totally. I think my view is that she gets to spoil my kids if she wants to.

I have asked that she just spend a small amount on a charity donation for us and understand that it would bring me more satisfaction than more stuff!

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Kehlani · 27/12/2024 05:58

Owhatsoccurring · 27/12/2024 05:52

I know!

She also has this weird thing about giving to charity. I have asked several times that she gift some toys to a local charity instead and she won’t do that. Won’t donate to the charity I asked her too either (Plan international - I asked her to sponsor a girl on our behalf - you can like donate so a girl can go to school) - she refused.

The whole thing is just so frustrating.

This definitely sounds like a control issue for her.

You’ve got to take the control back.

Where does this present exchange happen?

Where are the toys? Are they at yours, if yes, put them on her doorstep.

icecreamsundaeno5 · 27/12/2024 05:55

I really love Christmas, and choosing gifts for my grown up children and grandchildren. I would be quite upset myself if they said that I couldn't buy them gifts.

I would probably think that they didn't really mean it, or were worried about me spending a lot of money.

Couldn't you compromise by suggesting something you actually want next year? That way your mum gets to buy her daughter a gift, and you get something you don't consider 'clutter.' There must be something surely, even if it's practical or a voucher.

Owhatsoccurring · 27/12/2024 05:52

Kehlani · 27/12/2024 05:48

Wow, so she asks for a voucher for herself!

You definitely need to tell her that you will only accept a voucher or cash and that you won’t be taking any gifts for uou home.

Can you just leave the gifts with her?

I know!

She also has this weird thing about giving to charity. I have asked several times that she gift some toys to a local charity instead and she won’t do that. Won’t donate to the charity I asked her too either (Plan international - I asked her to sponsor a girl on our behalf - you can like donate so a girl can go to school) - she refused.

The whole thing is just so frustrating.

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