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To not want to go to the pub on Boxing Day every year?

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Fluffyandfestive · 26/12/2024 19:07

My in laws having a family tradition where the whole family goes to the pub on Boxing Day for a few hours.

This starts at about 11 and everyone has to be there on time.

The men get as pissed as possible and all the women go back to one of the houses at about 3pm and prep a buffet while the men stay in the pub a while longer.

Now that we have dc I don't want to participate in this tradition. In laws live around a 45 minute drive away. The dc want to stay home and play with their toys. It's boring. The men get drunk and act stupid.

Aibu to not want to go?

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ThatNimblePeer · 18/04/2025 19:50

WTF, how the hell do men justify staying and getting drunk while the women prep food, in 2024!

ByTicklishGreenEagle · 18/04/2025 19:43

I wouldn't go tbh...just saying....our tradition here is we buy n cook beef, b-i-l buys turkey and then it's cook veg..Christmas this year will be strained..other b-i-l (mid 50s)has been arrested for dealing class As. Dad died in february. It's his mums birthday and wedding anniversary on the 23rd December.
Hmmm could I come to yours?

SmallBox · 27/12/2024 16:36

Are you ever allowed to see your side of the family?

NewName24 · 27/12/2024 16:32

Lurkingandlearning · 27/12/2024 11:24

That is a lot of alcohol. People can’t neck that much as a one off. To drink that much you need to be used to drinking a lot frequently. Sound like a clan of alcoholics

I’m glad your DH stayed home with you and your children. I hope he starts preferring it that way and sees enjoying his family is more important than pleasing his relatives.

Edited

That was my thought, too.

That is a huge amount of alcohol.
I'm glad you made a stand this year @Fluffyandfestive and that your dh backed you.

The demands of his family throughout the year are preposterous. Hopefully this will give you the confidence to say no more often.

AAudreyHorne · 27/12/2024 12:34

Shinyandnew1 · 27/12/2024 12:31

I wouldn’t have agreed to do that with one toddler, let alone two, no matter what was ‘expected’ of me!

To be honest, I've spent the last 6 months in therapy trying to work out how and why I lost the ability to stand up for myself for so long. Turns out I was being emotionally abused for years without even realising, broken down until I got to the point where I thought this was a normal way for him to behave and I was wrong for having an issue with it.

Shinyandnew1 · 27/12/2024 12:31

AAudreyHorne · 27/12/2024 12:29

My STBXH and his parents, brother and SIL used to fuck off to the pub every Christmas day at midday until the dinner was ready at about 2.30 ... this continued when we had DC, so I used to be left with 2 toddlers on Christmas morning, and expected to prepare Christmas dinner for 8 on my own while they indulged the true love of their lives ... alcohol.
Wankers.

I wouldn’t have agreed to do that with one toddler, let alone two, no matter what was ‘expected’ of me!

AAudreyHorne · 27/12/2024 12:29

My STBXH and his parents, brother and SIL used to fuck off to the pub every Christmas day at midday until the dinner was ready at about 2.30 ... this continued when we had DC, so I used to be left with 2 toddlers on Christmas morning, and expected to prepare Christmas dinner for 8 on my own while they indulged the true love of their lives ... alcohol.
Wankers.

OVienna · 27/12/2024 12:22

They're out of their mind if they expect your kids to put up with that sort of experience for bloody hours. Glad you backed away. Here's to more of the same in 2025!

FriendsDrinkBook · 27/12/2024 11:48

Good for you op. And good for your dh. It all sounds terribly dull. And so boring and unsafe for the kids if everyone is drinking.

Exh's family were like this. Pretty much a group of enablers/alcoholics. I put my foot down and refused to go out drinking with them once the children were born , exh continued to drink excessively.

Lurkingandlearning · 27/12/2024 11:24

Fluffyandfestive · 27/12/2024 09:35

Five pints, if only that was all it was. Spirits too.

Mil has two bottles of wine to herself.

That is a lot of alcohol. People can’t neck that much as a one off. To drink that much you need to be used to drinking a lot frequently. Sound like a clan of alcoholics

I’m glad your DH stayed home with you and your children. I hope he starts preferring it that way and sees enjoying his family is more important than pleasing his relatives.

Screamingabdabz · 27/12/2024 10:23

“…but I had snide remarks from fil and dh's uncles about dh being under the thumb.”

Ugh. Can’t believe there are still dinosaurs like this, and women who pander to it. I’m glad you’re breaking the mould op. Good for you. Sexist attitudes like this should not be tolerated, especially by parents bringing up a new generation.

Shinyandnew1 · 27/12/2024 10:17

Fluffyandfestive · 27/12/2024 09:34

To respond to that. We always see them on Christmas Day.

To be completely honest, if I had my time over again I'm not sure if I'd marry dh because of his family.

It's not that they are bad people, but in my opinion they are old fashioned and unbelievably sexist. They are very demanding and set in their ways. They demand a lot of our time and expect us to do things their way. Dh has never been able to say no to anything or put us first for fear of upsetting his parents and looking bad in front of the family.

For example they have expected to see us every weekend on both days, unless they themselves are on holiday. Mil texts me in advance and books us up for every bank holiday, Easter, New Year's Day. She doesn't even ask she just tells me to keep it free because she's hosting the whole family. I've had enough of it all I don't feel as though my life is my own.

The dc don't have any cousins on dh's side. We are the only ones with children. Dh has a cousin who has a child but the cousin has moved to another country so long since broke away from the traditions and obligation.

That sounds awful, so it’s not even like your kids have anyone to play with-just sitting watching their relatives get pissed the male ones waited on!

What happened at Easter/other bank holidays?

DelphiniumBlue · 27/12/2024 10:13

Yeah, this used to be a thing in my youth back in the 60s and 70s, men getting drunk all day while the women did the grunt work and the children ran amok. To be fair, it could be fun for the children if there were other kids around .
But the whole thing is a throwback to times when it was thought to be a woman’s job to serve her menfolk, so fuck that!
This century, we are more aware of the issues involved in getting drunk in charge of or in front of children , and the whole set up seems very old fashioned.

BarbadosItsCloserThanYouThink · 27/12/2024 10:04

It sounds like a very selfish festivity with no thought for your children and if they're enjoying it. If you already see them on Christmas day you definitely shouldn't be putting up with this.

HadEnoughOfThisPish · 27/12/2024 10:03

They sound absolutely insufferable. With luck it'll be easier to say 'no' in future now that you've done it once. So what if the in-laws aren't happy? What's the worst they can actually do?

Celebrationtin1989 · 27/12/2024 09:58

Say no. DP can go if he wants. You don’t want to drag kids out. Go for buffet if you want but just tell MIL and reason. She may not be happy but meh your kids trump all that.

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/12/2024 09:56

Not my cup of tea at all. Kids wouldn’t have enjoyed it when they were young, either. Stay home.

gannett · 27/12/2024 09:55

the cousin has moved to another country so long since broke away from the traditions and obligation

Someone had their head screwed on! I bet that cousin is grateful for the distance every day.

It's not that they are bad people, but in my opinion they are old fashioned and unbelievably sexist. They are very demanding and set in their ways. They demand a lot of our time and expect us to do things their way.

They are bad people. This level of demanding control is incredibly toxic. I wouldn't stand for it a minute longer but then I wouldn't have stood for it for a minute in the first place.

She doesn't even ask she just tells me to keep it free because she's hosting the whole family. I've had enough of it all I don't feel as though my life is my own

Keep that "I've had enough" energy. You're an adult and no one should be telling you what to do. MIL can go fuck herself, frankly.

Daleksatemyshed · 27/12/2024 09:53

I wonder if now you've broken with one tradition your DH might feel able to stand up to his family more often. If it's all adults then there's not much pleasure for your DC. Why don't you book something child friendly for Easter?

Shinyandnew1 · 27/12/2024 09:44

Glad your DH didn’t go! What did the in laws say?

LittleBitAlexisLaLaLaLaLa · 27/12/2024 09:40

I wouldn’t bother going. Fine if you’re into that sort of thing but your children understandably aren’t. So don’t go. Send your husband off with a wave if he wants to go and stay home and do your own thing. And don’t tiptoe round him if he’s hungover the next day.

I will say, before kids I’d happily go to the pub but would I bollocks be meekly heading off early to prepare a buffet while the blokes enjoy themselves.

Fluffyandfestive · 27/12/2024 09:35

Glitchymn1 · 27/12/2024 09:34

I’d probably go for the food, but not if the men are five pints deep by then.
I don’t think alcohol and children mix (not talking a glass of wine/beer) but getting drunk absolutely not.

Five pints, if only that was all it was. Spirits too.

Mil has two bottles of wine to herself.

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Fluffyandfestive · 27/12/2024 09:34

Wonderwall23 · 27/12/2024 09:10

For me it completely depends on other factors. e.g. have you spent the whole of Christmas Day with them already, versus is this the only day over Christmas you'll see them. If it's the latter I'd probably suck it up (and to be honest it doesn't sound that bad to me). And I'm not a 1950s housewife type.

But then my DS would love it if his cousins were there...he has multiple other days over the holidays to play with his toys.

The only thing that would really bother me is that the women do both prepping and clearing up and I think this should be one or the other. The excessive drinking is also not great but not as bad if its an exception rather than regularly.

Im honestly not directing this at you, OP....more a general musing. But speaking from (limited) experience, I think if you get together with someone who has a family culture like this, you may as well accept some of it rather than expecting them to change. 'Putting your foot down' isn't likely to go down well...and why would they suddenly change to meet your viewpoint because you feel you have the moral highground. Especially if they are all happy with it. It's a bit naive to think it will suddenly change...best not to get involved in the first place.

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To respond to that. We always see them on Christmas Day.

To be completely honest, if I had my time over again I'm not sure if I'd marry dh because of his family.

It's not that they are bad people, but in my opinion they are old fashioned and unbelievably sexist. They are very demanding and set in their ways. They demand a lot of our time and expect us to do things their way. Dh has never been able to say no to anything or put us first for fear of upsetting his parents and looking bad in front of the family.

For example they have expected to see us every weekend on both days, unless they themselves are on holiday. Mil texts me in advance and books us up for every bank holiday, Easter, New Year's Day. She doesn't even ask she just tells me to keep it free because she's hosting the whole family. I've had enough of it all I don't feel as though my life is my own.

The dc don't have any cousins on dh's side. We are the only ones with children. Dh has a cousin who has a child but the cousin has moved to another country so long since broke away from the traditions and obligation.

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Glitchymn1 · 27/12/2024 09:34

I’d probably go for the food, but not if the men are five pints deep by then.
I don’t think alcohol and children mix (not talking a glass of wine/beer) but getting drunk absolutely not.

Fluffyandfestive · 27/12/2024 09:25

crumblingschools · 27/12/2024 09:12

Did DH go or stay with you?

He stayed at home.

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