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Husband doesn’t want me working part time even though we can afford it

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ThatFunRubyHelper · 26/12/2024 16:42

DH and I don’t have children yet. He makes a good salary working full time, and it’s possible for us to live from his salary but I work full time and contribute too.

I would really like to work part time as I want more time to properly clean the house, and spend time making healthy meals for us from scratch. On the weekends I don’t feel like I have enough time to properly rest too. I get tired quite easily and I’m honestly so exhausted from my work, on top of a few hours commute everyday. My DH is pretty energetic so doesn’t have this issue.

I’ve spoken about this to DH and he’s told me that he wants to send me abroad to a country where people work 11 hours a day 6 days a week to see what tired really looks like(then later claims he was joking). So I don’t have much understanding from him!

Am I being unreasonable to want to work part time?

OP posts:
MumWifeOther · 27/12/2024 16:57

Missmarymack2 · 27/12/2024 16:47

How come it’s always about women “doing it all” never men. I really think this mentality needs to change. It’s so old fashioned.

Because men aren’t nurturers by design.

Boomer55 · 27/12/2024 16:54

elfshenanigans · 26/12/2024 16:56

totally unreasonable in the absence of DC. I can understand why DH wouldn't want to fund this lifestyle choice. You are two adults. there should be plenty of time to take care of cooking and cleaning. How would you think you'd manage with DC. Also, have you considered the long term impact on career, pensions etc?

This. 🤷‍♀️

Missmarymack2 · 27/12/2024 16:53

@MumWifeOther ”I believe kids are better off with a parent”

just because my child wasn’t glued to me 24/7 during the early years doesn’t mean children of stay at home mothers are “better off”. My child liked the socialising of part time Creche and I don’t think it does children any harm at all. in fact I believe it does them good. For the record my dh would have supported me not to work if I wished but I would never chose not to work.

i think it’s so important for children to see that women can work and that women’s careers are just as important as men’s. Plus I wouldn’t know what to be at when they were at school… so boring !

Missmarymack2 · 27/12/2024 16:47

MumWifeOther · 27/12/2024 15:50

Not at all, I should have said it can sometimes (I think I did but maybe it didn’t!). I do think there’s huge pressure on women to do it all, and without the right support, it can really add so much of a strain. Also, for me personally, I believe kids are better off with a parent during the early years if possible and it’s so important to have a parent dropping off / picking up from school, and being present at home and during the holidays. Ultimately, it’s different for everyone and that’s fine.

How come it’s always about women “doing it all” never men. I really think this mentality needs to change. It’s so old fashioned.

MumWifeOther · 27/12/2024 15:50

ilovesooty · 27/12/2024 15:46

I think you'd find you weren't very employable.
Hopefully for you the need to work won't arise.

Ok 😅

MumWifeOther · 27/12/2024 15:50

Missmarymack2 · 27/12/2024 15:31

Yes but your message implies but parents working leads to huge stress and couples splitting up. My parents both worked and are together over 40 years..there is nothing wrong with having a career as a woman I worked hard for my degree and career and I work yes but I’ve been around for all my dcs milestones. That’s great that you are happy though I’m really glad for you.

Not at all, I should have said it can sometimes (I think I did but maybe it didn’t!). I do think there’s huge pressure on women to do it all, and without the right support, it can really add so much of a strain. Also, for me personally, I believe kids are better off with a parent during the early years if possible and it’s so important to have a parent dropping off / picking up from school, and being present at home and during the holidays. Ultimately, it’s different for everyone and that’s fine.

ilovesooty · 27/12/2024 15:46

MumWifeOther · 27/12/2024 09:58

I already said if previous posts to be honest about your intentions from the start to safe guard your position should the marriage fail.

With regards to employability, I have twice wanted to work during our marriage after having given up work.

I started a business with my mum, which was successful for a good 4 years but with market changes it no longer can provide us both an income so I’ve stepped away and she now runs it alone.

The other when my children all started school and felt at a bit of a loose end, so I was working from home doing 15 hours a week. I’ve left that job now too after 2 years as kids picked up extra curricular things and I felt I needed those 3 hours in the day to run the house more smoothly, which it has done.

Just because I had been out of work doesn’t mean I don’t have a skill set and I can’t get a job if I need / want one!

I think you'd find you weren't very employable.
Hopefully for you the need to work won't arise.

Missmarymack2 · 27/12/2024 15:31

MumWifeOther · 27/12/2024 15:14

That’s up to you and it’s great that you’re happy. I prefer being a stay at home
mum and while ive had brief stints working, it really brings me zero fulfilment long term.

Yes but your message implies but parents working leads to huge stress and couples splitting up. My parents both worked and are together over 40 years..there is nothing wrong with having a career as a woman I worked hard for my degree and career and I work yes but I’ve been around for all my dcs milestones. That’s great that you are happy though I’m really glad for you.

MumWifeOther · 27/12/2024 15:14

Missmarymack2 · 27/12/2024 11:02

@MumWifeOther being a working mum isn’t all doom and gloom you know. I’d be bored stiff at home and I would absolutely hate to have to rely on a man for money. the thoughts of it makes my skin crawl actually. Both my parents worked when I was a child also.

That’s up to you and it’s great that you’re happy. I prefer being a stay at home
mum and while ive had brief stints working, it really brings me zero fulfilment long term.

Midlifecrisisxamillion · 27/12/2024 12:13

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 26/12/2024 21:54

It's normal to do either tbh - not every woman wants to be a working mum and that's okay

Some women prefer to be a working parent, and that's equally okay

There's no normal when it comes to this

But she's not a mum

Missmarymack2 · 27/12/2024 11:02

@MumWifeOther being a working mum isn’t all doom and gloom you know. I’d be bored stiff at home and I would absolutely hate to have to rely on a man for money. the thoughts of it makes my skin crawl actually. Both my parents worked when I was a child also.

MumWifeOther · 27/12/2024 10:02

KrisAkabusi · 27/12/2024 00:09

There are many cultures around the world in which this is the norm and is an excuse to subjugate women.

Of course. And there are many over worked, over stressed, under supported women trying to raise kids and have a career, maintain relationships which fail due to stress load and time restraints, with kids also being ferried to breakfast club and after school childcare and taking their first steps in nurseries because I believe this society has failed in supporting families to manage things effectively.

MumWifeOther · 27/12/2024 09:58

ilovesooty · 27/12/2024 01:27

Giving up work even before you were married because you weren't interested in a career?

What will you do if your marriage fails and you're left on your own and with no employability skills at all?

I already said if previous posts to be honest about your intentions from the start to safe guard your position should the marriage fail.

With regards to employability, I have twice wanted to work during our marriage after having given up work.

I started a business with my mum, which was successful for a good 4 years but with market changes it no longer can provide us both an income so I’ve stepped away and she now runs it alone.

The other when my children all started school and felt at a bit of a loose end, so I was working from home doing 15 hours a week. I’ve left that job now too after 2 years as kids picked up extra curricular things and I felt I needed those 3 hours in the day to run the house more smoothly, which it has done.

Just because I had been out of work doesn’t mean I don’t have a skill set and I can’t get a job if I need / want one!

Onelifeonly · 27/12/2024 08:48

I can't understand why anyone wouldn't want a career or at least a job. It's a huge part of a person's identity as well as giving oneself financial independence. I'm over 60 and all my friends have / have had careers alongside their husband / partner. Yes some of us worked part time after having children or in the run up to retirement, but it makes no sense otherwise.

OP a busy person fits in a lot more into their every day than a person of leisure. If you're already too tired to work full time, you'll be lounging around at home, not leaping around making every surface sparkle and prepping complicated home cooked meals from scratch every day. Imo it's easier to be motivated by the demands of a job than by the endless chores that could be tackled but, other than cooking, washing and some essential cleaning, can be ignored for a while.

And why make less money for no reason- it would be cheaper to have a cleaner for a few hours a week and learn to cook some quick easy meals from scratch- if it takes longer than half an hour, I don't bother on a work day (or most others, come to that).

kiraric · 27/12/2024 07:36

MumWifeOther · 26/12/2024 23:49

Put it this way - I know of many men who are happy with this set up. I do not know of any women who are.

I don't know any men who would be happy to support their wife to be at home part time without children in the mix

I do know men and women who would be happy for their spouse to be a stay at home parent. That's a bit different because looking after young children is a full time job.

Pre kids, we had a cleaner for 3 hours a week which was more than enough with two of us mostly out at work all day, did a couple of loads of washing and cooked in the evening. Almost everything I cook is "from scratch" and usually takes under 30 mins.

Missmarymack2 · 27/12/2024 07:25

thefairytaleofnewyork · 27/12/2024 06:28

I'd work full time but get a cleaner that you both contribute to!

This is a good suggestion but at the same time how unclean can a house with 2 adults be. I just can’t understand why the cleaning has become an issue that would motivate the op to go part time.

thefairytaleofnewyork · 27/12/2024 06:28

I'd work full time but get a cleaner that you both contribute to!

AlexandrinaH · 27/12/2024 01:49

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 26/12/2024 17:22

No her husband is unreasonable.

No he’s not.

Why should he have to “carry” her when there’s no DCs? She wants to go part time to cook. Something we all have to do, whether we work part time, full time or not at all.

I work part time but that’s because I have a child. My DH would have definitely not been happy if I had wanted to work part time prior to this.

ilovesooty · 27/12/2024 01:27

MumWifeOther · 26/12/2024 21:57

Maybe, but not in my case, because I actually like cooking, cleaning and looking after my husband and the children. My husband likes being with the children, but being the fun parent not necessarily the one who remembers all the details, and he’s hates cooking and cleaning, though he does the washing up, takes the bins out and puts the petrol in. We’re happy this way and he was happy for me to give up work when we were engaged as I wasn’t interested in a career.

Giving up work even before you were married because you weren't interested in a career?

What will you do if your marriage fails and you're left on your own and with no employability skills at all?

KrisAkabusi · 27/12/2024 00:09

MumWifeOther · 26/12/2024 23:52

No it isn’t. There are many cultures around the world in which this is the norm. A lot of men like to be providers. It’s embedded in their nature.

There are many cultures around the world in which this is the norm and is an excuse to subjugate women.

MumWifeOther · 26/12/2024 23:52

LawrenceSMarlowforPresident · 26/12/2024 22:52

The idea of men being “providers” is antiquated nonsense.

No it isn’t. There are many cultures around the world in which this is the norm. A lot of men like to be providers. It’s embedded in their nature.

MumWifeOther · 26/12/2024 23:49

LawrenceSMarlowforPresident · 26/12/2024 22:11

I was responding to your post stating that many men are happy for their wives to work part time or not at all even if they don’t have children. So my question was are many women just as happy to support their husbands financially when there are no children?

I wasn’t asking about your personal situation at all.

Put it this way - I know of many men who are happy with this set up. I do not know of any women who are.

BettyBardMacDonald · 26/12/2024 23:46

biscuitsandbooks · 26/12/2024 22:13

@mumofoneAlonebutokay no, I wouldn't - I would expect us both to work and contribute equally in terms of finances and care 🤷‍♀️

I also wouldn't be supporting any able bodied adult to faff about cooking from bloody scratch while I went out and worked a full time job, that's for sure.

This.

And SAH isn't power, it's precarious dependence.

BettyBardMacDonald · 26/12/2024 23:43

ClicketyClickPlusOne · 26/12/2024 22:41

OP, since you imply you would like to have children, make it a priority to get your tiredness checked out by your GP.

If you are too tired to work f/t being a parent of a baby and toddler will floor you!

There is much to be said for a fulfilling work / life balance but in the end we do need to support ourselves now, save for the parenting years and have security for our old age. Pre children is very young to be ceasing to invest in future financial security.

This, x100.

And I would argue that securing our old age takes precedence. If, after doing that, one can still afford children, that's fine. Otherwise you're just rolling the dice with the possibility of becoming a burden to those around you.

Zone2NorthLondon · 26/12/2024 23:32

LawrenceSMarlowforPresident · 26/12/2024 22:52

The idea of men being “providers” is antiquated nonsense.

Agree. Men as providers is antiquated, as is women as recipients. It promotes an antiquated dysfunctional dynamic