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Husband doesn’t want me working part time even though we can afford it

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ThatFunRubyHelper · 26/12/2024 16:42

DH and I don’t have children yet. He makes a good salary working full time, and it’s possible for us to live from his salary but I work full time and contribute too.

I would really like to work part time as I want more time to properly clean the house, and spend time making healthy meals for us from scratch. On the weekends I don’t feel like I have enough time to properly rest too. I get tired quite easily and I’m honestly so exhausted from my work, on top of a few hours commute everyday. My DH is pretty energetic so doesn’t have this issue.

I’ve spoken about this to DH and he’s told me that he wants to send me abroad to a country where people work 11 hours a day 6 days a week to see what tired really looks like(then later claims he was joking). So I don’t have much understanding from him!

Am I being unreasonable to want to work part time?

OP posts:
Cornflakes123 · 28/12/2024 11:58

I would find the idea of a man who is looking for a kept woman not only unattractive but concerning, particularly with no dc involved.

SouthLondonMum22 · 28/12/2024 11:56

MumWifeOther · 28/12/2024 11:39

That works for many people. For my family, it works better the way we do it. As I mentioned, we have had 2 fairly brief stints were I was earning too and it took away from what I give to my family. I never wanted a career as I always wanted to be a SAHM. I suppose I’ve never seen the appeal in a career, just as you can not see the appeal in being a SAHM.

The appeal to me is largely about financial independence as well as enjoying financially providing for my children. Knowing that should anything happen be it death, divorce, DH job loss etc that their life wouldn’t change from a financial point of view makes me feel secure.

I also love my career which helps and worked hard to get to a senior role. Throwing all of that away would be madness to me.

Marblesbackagain · 28/12/2024 11:51

Agreed but after a bit of a history working on divorces the more money there is the easier it is for them to hide it or reroute it.

So yes pension can be sorted, but spousal maintenance won't be granted , property may need to be sold, schooling changed from private and rearranged their role to reduce "income". It sadly is very common.

The idea people are still going into this situation eyes open is concerning. I would be advising family members to ensure they have a protected income, property independent, and a secure career plan

MumWifeOther · 28/12/2024 11:45

Marblesbackagain · 28/12/2024 11:43

You are right.

To be honest it doesn't matter who he is and what the plans are because nobody can predict a person's decision five, ten or twenty years later.

That’s true but if he earns well, you can insist he pays into a pension for you as he does himself, that assets are in both your names, that there is a good life insurance policy in place etc. As you say, no one can predict the future but I suppose it’s prudent to plan as much as feasible.

Marblesbackagain · 28/12/2024 11:43

MumWifeOther · 28/12/2024 11:35

I do see that it can be a vulnerable position, which is why I think you need to safeguard against being left struggling from the start. It obviously requires the husband to value the sacrifice of the woman, and provide financial security in the event of separation / death, at least as much as he would provide that for himself. In many ways I believe with support the husband can become more successful which should hopefully help with regards to investments, assets, pensions etc.

I suppose that’s why the OP really needs to consider whether her husband is the right person for her. If he views her as a burden there’s a high chance it could end badly.

My advice would be to be honest from the start and plan as early as possible too as to how this arrangement should work to protect you both.

You are right.

To be honest it doesn't matter who he is and what the plans are because nobody can predict a person's decision five, ten or twenty years later.

MumWifeOther · 28/12/2024 11:39

SouthLondonMum22 · 28/12/2024 11:24

We both contribute to raising and supporting our family. I don’t see why it should just be my job or why I need to give up my career to do it.

That works for many people. For my family, it works better the way we do it. As I mentioned, we have had 2 fairly brief stints were I was earning too and it took away from what I give to my family. I never wanted a career as I always wanted to be a SAHM. I suppose I’ve never seen the appeal in a career, just as you can not see the appeal in being a SAHM.

MumWifeOther · 28/12/2024 11:35

Marblesbackagain · 28/12/2024 11:25

The problem isn't the role as such and I appreciate you feelings. The problem is the extreme financial vulnerability SAHP are in.

In the case of relationship end or loss of a spouse, then reality can sharply differ.

No career to step back into, no decent pension. Also what happens when the children grow? How do you then define the role for yourself ?

I never was interested in not having a career. And I did see my mother struggle when my father left. She never achieved professionally what she was was well capable of. If she had have stayed working, her life and choices would have been protected.

I do see that it can be a vulnerable position, which is why I think you need to safeguard against being left struggling from the start. It obviously requires the husband to value the sacrifice of the woman, and provide financial security in the event of separation / death, at least as much as he would provide that for himself. In many ways I believe with support the husband can become more successful which should hopefully help with regards to investments, assets, pensions etc.

I suppose that’s why the OP really needs to consider whether her husband is the right person for her. If he views her as a burden there’s a high chance it could end badly.

My advice would be to be honest from the start and plan as early as possible too as to how this arrangement should work to protect you both.

Marblesbackagain · 28/12/2024 11:25

MumWifeOther · 28/12/2024 11:18

I suppose it depends how much you value you place on raising and supporting your family. For me personally, it’s the most important job anyone can do and an honour. I’ve never felt less than a man because I don’t have a career. Quite the opposite if I’m honest. I understand that it’s different for everyone though.

The problem isn't the role as such and I appreciate you feelings. The problem is the extreme financial vulnerability SAHP are in.

In the case of relationship end or loss of a spouse, then reality can sharply differ.

No career to step back into, no decent pension. Also what happens when the children grow? How do you then define the role for yourself ?

I never was interested in not having a career. And I did see my mother struggle when my father left. She never achieved professionally what she was was well capable of. If she had have stayed working, her life and choices would have been protected.

Motheranddaughter · 28/12/2024 11:25

SouthLondonMum22 · 28/12/2024 11:24

We both contribute to raising and supporting our family. I don’t see why it should just be my job or why I need to give up my career to do it.

Exactly

SouthLondonMum22 · 28/12/2024 11:24

MumWifeOther · 28/12/2024 11:18

I suppose it depends how much you value you place on raising and supporting your family. For me personally, it’s the most important job anyone can do and an honour. I’ve never felt less than a man because I don’t have a career. Quite the opposite if I’m honest. I understand that it’s different for everyone though.

We both contribute to raising and supporting our family. I don’t see why it should just be my job or why I need to give up my career to do it.

MumWifeOther · 28/12/2024 11:18

SouthLondonMum22 · 28/12/2024 11:10

I’m the opposite. I find it unattractive for a man to expect his wife to throw away her own career in favour of his own and to think that women are good for nothing but having babies, cooking and cleaning.

I suppose it depends how much you value you place on raising and supporting your family. For me personally, it’s the most important job anyone can do and an honour. I’ve never felt less than a man because I don’t have a career. Quite the opposite if I’m honest. I understand that it’s different for everyone though.

SouthLondonMum22 · 28/12/2024 11:10

MumWifeOther · 28/12/2024 10:58

There are plenty of men who want to provide for their partners and find it very attractive to have a partner who wants to
invest her time supporting him, their family and looking after herself.

For a start, in Islam, the husband is required to provide for his wife and family. If for any reason the woman wants to work, the money is considered hers alone and not to be used to support the family. It’s considered haram to take money from your wife.

I find it grossly unattractive for a man to not be able to provide for his family.

I’m the opposite. I find it unattractive for a man to expect his wife to throw away her own career in favour of his own and to think that women are good for nothing but having babies, cooking and cleaning.

MumWifeOther · 28/12/2024 10:58

Missmarymack2 · 28/12/2024 07:39

She hasn’t said she wants to be a mum full stop.
Just making the point it won’t be super easy to find a man who wants a woman whose ambition in life is to be kept.
it’s not a very attractive ambition in a person is it ?

There are plenty of men who want to provide for their partners and find it very attractive to have a partner who wants to
invest her time supporting him, their family and looking after herself.

For a start, in Islam, the husband is required to provide for his wife and family. If for any reason the woman wants to work, the money is considered hers alone and not to be used to support the family. It’s considered haram to take money from your wife.

I find it grossly unattractive for a man to not be able to provide for his family.

MumWifeOther · 28/12/2024 10:53

Beezknees · 28/12/2024 09:23

What a load of shit.

You sound very bitter.

Pussycat22 · 28/12/2024 09:45

VodkaCola · 26/12/2024 16:44

What a horrible man.

Please think carefully about having children with him.

DON'T have children with this control freak. If you're knackered now having kids and working will decimate you.

Betchyaby · 28/12/2024 09:37

What is the household income? You say he can afford for you to go PT but at what cost? I quit work because my DH could make in a month what I was making in a year. My financial contribution was so insignificant that being a housewife is a more important contribution.

Bottom line, he doesn't want to do it so if you want that lifestyle/dynamic you need to be looking elsewhere. It won't work if he resents you.

Beezknees · 28/12/2024 09:23

MumWifeOther · 27/12/2024 15:50

Not at all, I should have said it can sometimes (I think I did but maybe it didn’t!). I do think there’s huge pressure on women to do it all, and without the right support, it can really add so much of a strain. Also, for me personally, I believe kids are better off with a parent during the early years if possible and it’s so important to have a parent dropping off / picking up from school, and being present at home and during the holidays. Ultimately, it’s different for everyone and that’s fine.

What a load of shit.

BCBird · 28/12/2024 08:20

If u both wanted more time and agreed on cutting both your working hours then fine. I don't however think he should support your desire to work.part time for the reasons you have stated. If the roles were reversed would u be prepared to.do this? Do meal.planning together, invest in a slow cooker. I've heard good things about Gusto and other similar food deliveries.

Missmarymack2 · 28/12/2024 07:47

MumWifeOther · 27/12/2024 20:11

But it’s not a case of being a better parent in my view, it’s what I believe to be opitmal
for the child.

I don’t think I’m a better parent simply because my children came out of my vagina - don’t be obtuse. I’ve said many, many times that the fact I birthed my kids makes me by default the better caregiver due to the natural and innate bond we will have formed. Biologically speaking, fetomaternal stem cell transfer occurs in all pregnancies and in humans the fetal cells can persist for decades. We are literally designed to be nurterers. If I was abusive or unwell, then this would be different. But to put it simply, my husband and I love our children the same and he’s a wonderful dad. He still doesn’t have the bond I do with my kids or the natural intuition I have, and he never will, because he’s their dad. I’m not sure I can explain this better.

“Birthing one out of yours makes you the best choice for your child” a quote from MumWifeOther earlier in then evening regarding vaginas.

Missmarymack2 · 28/12/2024 07:41

@mumofoneAlonebutokay i certainly wouldn’t find a man with such ambitions attractive anyway.

Missmarymack2 · 28/12/2024 07:39

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 27/12/2024 21:50

We should have what we want in life though

Or at least aim for it. Not every woman wants to be a kept woman but some do

And there are men out there who want to take care of their wives in that way. Each to their own. But if op wants to be a stay at home mum, I think she's just got a glimpse of the man she'll be facing

She hasn’t said she wants to be a mum full stop.
Just making the point it won’t be super easy to find a man who wants a woman whose ambition in life is to be kept.
it’s not a very attractive ambition in a person is it ?

blueshoes · 27/12/2024 23:13

MumWifeOther · 27/12/2024 20:11

But it’s not a case of being a better parent in my view, it’s what I believe to be opitmal
for the child.

I don’t think I’m a better parent simply because my children came out of my vagina - don’t be obtuse. I’ve said many, many times that the fact I birthed my kids makes me by default the better caregiver due to the natural and innate bond we will have formed. Biologically speaking, fetomaternal stem cell transfer occurs in all pregnancies and in humans the fetal cells can persist for decades. We are literally designed to be nurterers. If I was abusive or unwell, then this would be different. But to put it simply, my husband and I love our children the same and he’s a wonderful dad. He still doesn’t have the bond I do with my kids or the natural intuition I have, and he never will, because he’s their dad. I’m not sure I can explain this better.

I am not sure the fetomaternal stem cells make enough of a biological difference to warrant any sweeping statements about mothers being better parents by default. It is not your vagina nor them cells.

blueshoes · 27/12/2024 23:08

user1473878824 · 27/12/2024 19:49

😱 not a WORKING MUM!

😂

Zone2NorthLondon · 27/12/2024 23:02

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 27/12/2024 21:50

We should have what we want in life though

Or at least aim for it. Not every woman wants to be a kept woman but some do

And there are men out there who want to take care of their wives in that way. Each to their own. But if op wants to be a stay at home mum, I think she's just got a glimpse of the man she'll be facing

Equally he got a future vision of a woman happy not to work whilst he’s the work donkey she’s expecting to finance her.grim

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 27/12/2024 21:50

Missmarymack2 · 27/12/2024 21:29

@mumofoneAlonebutokay That’s life though isn’t it ? We don’t always get what we want all the time in life. Most people have to work, both men and women.

If the op wants to run and find another man who wants to work full time to fund her cooking from scratch and cleaning good luck to her. As someone previously suggested I wouldn’t be putting it on my dating profile anyway…

Edited

We should have what we want in life though

Or at least aim for it. Not every woman wants to be a kept woman but some do

And there are men out there who want to take care of their wives in that way. Each to their own. But if op wants to be a stay at home mum, I think she's just got a glimpse of the man she'll be facing