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FIL wants to take my 12 week old around to visit neighbours

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Charlottef94 · 26/12/2024 14:57

We are visiting our PIL in a few days and MIL said to DH on the phone this morning that FIL
”can’t wait” to take my DS around to all their random neighbours to show him off. My baby is 12 weeks old and I feel very uncomfortable that this was stated without even asking if I, his mother would be okay with that and insinuating he would be going alone with my baby. All I can say is he will absolutely not be doing so and my baby will not be leaving my eye line. What if I wanted to keep him away from germs etc? He also hates strangers at the moment and will assume FIL is also a stranger as he likes me to be nearby whenever family are holding him at the moment. Am I being unreasonable in demanding I join any of these visits?

OP posts:
GreetSneet · 26/12/2024 17:18

I obviously did it all wrong but I'd hand my babies to anyone more or less, 30 years ago. They got attention and i got 5 minutes peace. Amazing the kids all survived and i remained sane.

MajorCarolDanvers · 26/12/2024 17:18

Rosscameasdoody · 26/12/2024 17:10

Well no. My GP was making the point that there are different vulnerabilities and those affected should be careful. And that includes babies’ - their immune systems aren’t fully mature for around three months, so exposing a child as young as OP’s to the kinds of bugs presently doing the rounds is an unnecessary risk.

Edited

So babies need to stay at home in isolation from the world - I don’t think so.

MajorCarolDanvers · 26/12/2024 17:16

SovietSpy · 26/12/2024 17:01

Baby groups I go to sanitise the toys between classes because no one wants babies to get sick from their group.
Not many people take a 12 week old to the supermarket and even if you did the baby isn’t touching anything in there or getting close enough to other people because they are in their pram. Swimming, no one touches your baby except you and don’t get close enough others in the class to get their germs. Doubt anyone would get in they weren’t feeling well or their baby was ill anyway.

What does make babies ill is stupid people touching and kissing them and people who don’t wash their hands regularly holding them.

Grandparents insisting there are no germs about and not washing their hands are not normal.

They toys might be sanitised but the babies and other mums aren’t.

of course in the real world people do take their babies to the supermarket and sometimes even stop and chat to people. Often babies are not in their prams but put in the little baby bassinets on top of the trolleys.

swimming pools are full of people secreting all kinds of body fluids into the water

then of course there are baby changing rooms, cafes, friends, neighbours.

in the real world people don’t behave like MN. It’s called life. Once your PFB is a bit older you will cringe reading these threads.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 26/12/2024 17:15

Rosecoffeecup · 26/12/2024 16:52

God forbid a proud grandparent wants to show off their new grandchild.

I wonder how many of the posters up in arms over this are also the type to complain when family inevitably have no bond with their child or won't do free childcare

Edited

I am a granny, and a MIL, and I was so excited when our grandchild arrived, but I wouldn’t have dreamt of assuming I could take a 12 week old off to visit a bunch of people who were total strangers to her parents@Rosecoffeecup.

msbevvy · 26/12/2024 17:15

JollyHollyMe · 26/12/2024 15:20

Perfectly normal thing to do- except in MN world of in law hating.

Times seem to have changed since my day. I would have been happy to have a FIL that was so excited about the baby and wanted to show them off.

I was born at home and my Dad was showing me off to all the neighbours the same day. My Mum was a bit put out about that though as she had wanted to be the one to show me off but in those days women would be made to rest for a week after childbirth.

Rosscameasdoody · 26/12/2024 17:10

MajorCarolDanvers · 26/12/2024 17:00

Having cancer treatment is of course obviously a completely different situation

Fit and healthy people including babies normally go out and about in the world and socialise with other humans. Baby groups, relatives, neighbours and even strangers.

Well no. My GP was making the point that there are different vulnerabilities and those affected should be careful. And that includes babies’ - their immune systems aren’t fully mature for around three months, so exposing a child as young as OP’s to the kinds of bugs presently doing the rounds is an unnecessary risk.

arcticpandas · 26/12/2024 17:04

Seriously? If it's outside OK but I would not let him walk in to various people during flu season with a 12 week old baby. Just tell him your GP told you to limit visits during the winter months. He can't argue with that.

SovietSpy · 26/12/2024 17:01

MajorCarolDanvers · 26/12/2024 16:41

Do you people not go to baby groups, the supermarket, swimming etc with your babies or do you just stay at home isolating all the time?

MN germaphobes with PFBs are not normal.

Baby groups I go to sanitise the toys between classes because no one wants babies to get sick from their group.
Not many people take a 12 week old to the supermarket and even if you did the baby isn’t touching anything in there or getting close enough to other people because they are in their pram. Swimming, no one touches your baby except you and don’t get close enough others in the class to get their germs. Doubt anyone would get in they weren’t feeling well or their baby was ill anyway.

What does make babies ill is stupid people touching and kissing them and people who don’t wash their hands regularly holding them.

Grandparents insisting there are no germs about and not washing their hands are not normal.

MajorCarolDanvers · 26/12/2024 17:00

Rosscameasdoody · 26/12/2024 16:41

I’m having cancer treatment. Was advised to get all of my jabs as my immune system is compromised - GP said there are an unusual number of bugs doing the rounds this year, including a particularly nasty flu bug that has hospitalised people, as well as Covid and RSV. She advised they have been actively advising vulnerable people to get vaccinated and urging new mums to pay special attention to young babies as they’re particularly vulnerable. I wouldn’t call our GP a germophobe. And it’s definitely not a Covid hangover. I’d call it a mothers’ instinct to protect her child. Not to mention not wanting over zealous grandparents playing pass the parcel with a new baby.

Having cancer treatment is of course obviously a completely different situation

Fit and healthy people including babies normally go out and about in the world and socialise with other humans. Baby groups, relatives, neighbours and even strangers.

ButterCrackers · 26/12/2024 16:57

No. All the germs and hassle.

Rosscameasdoody · 26/12/2024 16:57

Rosecoffeecup · 26/12/2024 16:52

God forbid a proud grandparent wants to show off their new grandchild.

I wonder how many of the posters up in arms over this are also the type to complain when family inevitably have no bond with their child or won't do free childcare

Edited

I don’t think OP is trying to stop her family bonding with her baby. She just doesn’t want him parading round the neighbourhood in the middle of winter with so many nasty bugs doing the rounds. I really don’t think that’s unreasonable.

BeTaupeBear · 26/12/2024 16:56

It would be a no from me I didn’t want separating from my baby at that age at all it would have made me really anxious
If you want to please them go with them but keep baby in a sling

endofthelinefinally · 26/12/2024 16:55

DS2 got RSV at 16 weeks. We were in hospital, he was on oxygen and ventolin. He was very poorly. Another baby on the ward died from it. Winter germs can be serious in young babies. I would have no problem with friends visiting as long as they are well. I wouldn't pass a baby round the neighbours.

CaptainAwkward · 26/12/2024 16:53

Surely you can do things to mitigate any cold/bugs risk but still let FIL show your baby off?

If it was me I’d say something like

“FIL that’s lovely but I’m a bit worried about all the horrible things that are going around at the moment (you can tell him about xyz you know who have all had norovirus/covid recently and been floored)

How about I put baby in a sling/keep them in the pram whilst we walk around to visit folk so they can see them without me worrying about catching something?”

I understand your worries about the situation but also FIL’s desire to show people his GC too

EllieRosesMammy · 26/12/2024 16:52

You're absolutely not being unreasonable. Is he having a laugh?? 😂

Rosecoffeecup · 26/12/2024 16:52

God forbid a proud grandparent wants to show off their new grandchild.

I wonder how many of the posters up in arms over this are also the type to complain when family inevitably have no bond with their child or won't do free childcare

MerryMaker · 26/12/2024 16:48

SerafinasGoose · 26/12/2024 16:47

It's highly unlikely that the neighbours are going to be interested in the slightest. They are probably just being polite.

My mum would have been very interested.

SerafinasGoose · 26/12/2024 16:47

It's highly unlikely that the neighbours are going to be interested in the slightest. They are probably just being polite.

Redebs · 26/12/2024 16:45

No, babies at that age are vulnerable to infection.
I was horrified when my 4 month old grandson was hit with bronchiolitis and had to be in hospital on oxygen. Poor little mite.

CatalinaLoo · 26/12/2024 16:43

Rosscameasdoody · 26/12/2024 16:41

I’m having cancer treatment. Was advised to get all of my jabs as my immune system is compromised - GP said there are an unusual number of bugs doing the rounds this year, including a particularly nasty flu bug that has hospitalised people, as well as Covid and RSV. She advised they have been actively advising vulnerable people to get vaccinated and urging new mums to pay special attention to young babies as they’re particularly vulnerable. I wouldn’t call our GP a germophobe. And it’s definitely not a Covid hangover. I’d call it a mothers’ instinct to protect her child. Not to mention not wanting over zealous grandparents playing pass the parcel with a new baby.

100%

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 26/12/2024 16:43

CatalinaLoo · 26/12/2024 16:39

I don’t know. Perhaps the fact that’s she carried the baby for 9 months and then squeezed it out her vag? At this young age, the mother’s opinion trumps everyone.

Totally disagree with this. The parents together should make decisions imo.

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 26/12/2024 16:42

Wonderwall23 · 26/12/2024 15:10

I'm with you....

Me 3

CatalinaLoo · 26/12/2024 16:42

GlomOfNit · 26/12/2024 16:32

Are you American, by any chance? (something about the turn of phrase) It's just that I think this very overzealous uber-protective attitude over babies and young children is something I've seen coming from North America in the last generation.

And surely only someone from North America could use the phrase 'I just know how to advocate for my child' when they're talking about not letting said child meet or come into close proximity with other humans. (rather than, for example, fighting for their child's SEN provision, or getting a second opinion at the hospital when something actually REAL and serious is going on, or standing up for their child against bullies.)

12 weeks is 3 months. Did you never take a 3 month old out to a baby and mums group? If not, what a shame. They are just beginning a period of neurological development that means they're SO interested in other people and their wider environment. In fact, studies done on the cohort of babies unlucky enough to have been born at the start of the covid pandemic with lockdown meaning babies and young children weren't socialised properly have shown how horribly detrimental this was to their neurological development and psychological wellbeing.

We never used to talk about 'flu and colds season' - it was just winter. People get bugs in winter. Doesn't mean you should lock your small children up for months on end!

I’m English. I just am aware of how badly things can go wrong when a baby ends up in intensive care. It isn’t about locking your baby up. It’s about minimising unnecessary risk. And visiting FIL’s random friends and neighbours who she has never met is the definition of “unnecessary”.

Rosscameasdoody · 26/12/2024 16:41

MajorCarolDanvers · 26/12/2024 16:15

So many uptight germaphobes on here. Wonder if this is a Covid hangover effect.

Edited

I’m having cancer treatment. Was advised to get all of my jabs as my immune system is compromised - GP said there are an unusual number of bugs doing the rounds this year, including a particularly nasty flu bug that has hospitalised people, as well as Covid and RSV. She advised they have been actively advising vulnerable people to get vaccinated and urging new mums to pay special attention to young babies as they’re particularly vulnerable. I wouldn’t call our GP a germophobe. And it’s definitely not a Covid hangover. I’d call it a mothers’ instinct to protect her child. Not to mention not wanting over zealous grandparents playing pass the parcel with a new baby.

MajorCarolDanvers · 26/12/2024 16:41

SovietSpy · 26/12/2024 16:33

No it’s because there’s more awareness that winter bugs can be deadly to little babies.
Why do you think they are giving the RSV vaccine to pregnant women? To help protect the baby after it’s born.

There was a thread on here recently about hand washing and how it was unreasonable to expect people to wash their hands. That’s why Brits are riddled with disgusting winter bugs. Unhygienic gross people everywhere.

Also all this proud grandparent rubbish is a massive load of shit as well. Weird behaviour to take your grandchild round to people like some toy.

Do you people not go to baby groups, the supermarket, swimming etc with your babies or do you just stay at home isolating all the time?

MN germaphobes with PFBs are not normal.

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