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To not go on Boxing Day

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Boxingdayw · 24/12/2024 12:30

1 hour drive each way- we have a one month old. 8 adults in total including me and DH. Nobody else has kids, we are the next youngest after baby DC. One relative is also bringing along two chihuahuas known to be reactive and snappy- think baring their teeth to anyone who stands up to go to the toilet, simply because there’s been movement in the room. They wouldn’t put them in another room because their dogs are their babies and go literally everywhere with them. I don’t feel confident to ask as it’s been a point of contention before (it is not their house, they are guests, but the host is too timid and peace keeping to put in any sort of request like this). Going off previous years it usually involves a lot of alcohol and there is usually an argument. Two of them smoke quite heavily and usually go out tbf but again if they didn’t nobody would challenge it.

We feel kind of obligated to go because of the hosts who we really enjoy spending time with. They will be disappointed if we don’t go. They are the only relatives we see regularly, the others is usually once a year at Christmas or twice max not through lack of our own trying but they are not that interested generally.

We also want to be fair to both sides of the family, even though we are much (much) more comfortable and familiar with one than the other, not to mention one is on the doorstep so means not having to keep baby up too late or in the car seat for too long.

What to do? If it wasn’t Christmas we wouldn’t feel so torn!

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BettyBardMacDonald · 25/12/2024 14:53

She's allowed to reconsider, @ShortyShorts

OP, you are not responsible for others' feelings, expectations or disappointments.

Do what is best for you and your baby. Your relatives will get over it.

Candlesandmatches · 25/12/2024 14:33

With a 1 month old, the dogs and the smokers I wouldn’t go.
You are both likely very tired and you are still establishing breastfeeding. Unnecessary stress isnt helpful in this period.
its ok for relatives to be disappointed. Could the host come and see you another time?
Have a cozy day and home with w walk if the weather is ok.
Sbappy dogs (who won’t be put in another room, smokers and breastfeeding is not a good combo.
You Baby will still be exposed to the smoke on the smokers clothes. I wouldn’t want that.

MumChp · 25/12/2024 14:32

1 months old baby.
Smoking indoors and dogs not able to behave?
No, thank you.
I wouldn't go but make an excuse.

ShortyShorts · 25/12/2024 14:28

BettyBardMacDonald · 25/12/2024 11:26

She has a newborn. It's an unpredictable stage of life. Anyone who wouldn't kindly understand the cancellation isn't worth bothering about.

But before she accepted the invitation she knew she had a newborn, there'd be alcohol/arguing, dogs and all the other things she mentioned.

BettyBardMacDonald · 25/12/2024 11:26

ShortyShorts · 25/12/2024 11:14

Did you only get the invitation today?

If not, it's a bit off to cancel the day before.

She has a newborn. It's an unpredictable stage of life. Anyone who wouldn't kindly understand the cancellation isn't worth bothering about.

Lampzade · 25/12/2024 11:23

I would go early, stay a few hours and then leave
I think that you have left it too late to decline the invitation

SpryCat · 25/12/2024 11:21

I would be truthful, you don’t want to risk having your baby around reactive dogs and one hour too long for baby to be in car seat.

ShortyShorts · 25/12/2024 11:14

Did you only get the invitation today?

If not, it's a bit off to cancel the day before.

Boxingdayw · 25/12/2024 11:09

Thanks everyone. Tbh we have been almost as far as drove 40 mins to a restaurant the other day, so I feel like that can’t be my excuse. The dogs and smoking however are what is making me anxious and yes I am BF and there wouldn’t be anywhere I could go to feed in private.

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Endofyear · 24/12/2024 19:40

I wouldn't lie - I'd just say the journey is a bit much for you with a new baby and you'll visit them soon. If they get the hump, that's really their problem.

BettyBardMacDonald · 24/12/2024 17:03

I would not have a newborn in a car seat for two hours unless absolutely necessary. Nor around the dogs. Just cancel.

Theres nothing "immoral" about it. You'll see them another time. Trying to be "fair" to extended family is the road to madness.

(Btw i love Chihuahuas; remember they are small and vulnerable and doing the best they can with what they have.)

Lurkingandlearning · 24/12/2024 16:03

You knew all this when you agreed to go. Now it’s getting close you just can’t be bothered and want to let them down

Tooes · 24/12/2024 14:23

Anything that includes chihuahuas should be redcarded from the get go.

cuppaonce · 24/12/2024 13:41

if you feel you can do the journey then go. But stay for an hour with the excuse that it’s a long way back , small baby, and you had a bad night.
if you like the hosts so much then next year invite them only over for a simple meal, then you won’t feel obliged to join in with mad dogs and drunks !!

DisforDarkChocolate · 24/12/2024 13:32

Smoking and snapping dogs, I'd not be taking a baby anywhere near that house.

Have a nice quiet visit on Boxing Day or whenever it's quieter/smoke free.

BeensOnToost · 24/12/2024 13:31

Baby has been up being sick.

Carebearstartrek · 24/12/2024 13:29

One month old baby, you don't need an excuse. Stay home and enjoy the peace.

Wonderi · 24/12/2024 13:22

I wouldn’t go but I would have told them weeks ago.
You had the perfect excuse with a young baby.

If it’s just the hosts you want to see then why not invite them to yours or offer to go see them the next day?

If you do end up going then I would make an excuse beforehand about why you can only stay for an hour.

I think on the morning I would say that one of you have been sick and you don’t want to pass it on.

It means you’ll still be able to see family beforehand and then if you’re out after that day then you have obviously got better.

m00rfarm · 24/12/2024 13:21

An hour drive each way is not that far - but don't stay for long. Give the "new baby, not comfortable with dogs, not feeling 100% after birth" stay for an hour and go home. But let the hosts know right now so they don't have to cater for you for the whole day. Next year plan in advance if you don't want to go.

JFDIYOLO · 24/12/2024 13:16

Just tell the truth.

It will be uncomfortable for you sitting for an hour in the car only weeks after giving birth.

If you're breastfeeding, it will be uncomfortable in the car and in someone else's home

It will be uncomfortable managing a baby in the car, especially if a poonami hits and you have to change in the car 👃or outside 🥶 or in their home.

And it will be uncomfortable feeling on edge with dogs around a new baby with unfamiliar smells and sounds. We have a chihuahua in the family and they can be very fast and very bitey. Especially when there are several, and pack instinct kicks in. Plus a baby is not much bigger than a chi.

Better to invite your hosts to come for lunch in 2025 and spend more serene time in your own home.

Ellie1015 · 24/12/2024 13:16

I would see the 2 people who you like from the 26th gathering on 27th or 24th. If you are close you should see them, and i expect they will understand the 26th gathering is not baby friendly.

Absolutely see the other side of the family. They shouldnt miss out because some of the boxing day group arent who you want to spend time with.

PlanningTowns · 24/12/2024 12:55

Be honest with them, if they are as kind/timid as you suggest they probably won’t express disappointment to you.

the smoking, dogs and 1 month old baby don’t mix well so for comfort you’ll stay home this year but will see them in the new year?

PullTheBricksDown · 24/12/2024 12:55

Boxingdayw · 24/12/2024 12:35

DH wonders if we do that do we morally have to avoid the other side of the family too. (They don’t talk and never would/will)

No, morally you're obliged to rearrange for another day soon. Coincidentally that will mean the smoking dog crew won't be there. 🙂

But I agree, better to say the dogs etc are an issue with the baby. Is there any way otherwise you could go early, before they arrive with dogs? Or later?

AnneLovesGilbert · 24/12/2024 12:53

It’s a bit late! I wouldn’t lie, I’d say I don’t feel comfortable around the dogs with the baby but they’re going to be upset because you should have said this ages ago.

Shinytaps · 24/12/2024 12:52

Your baby is one month old? That’s your reason not to go. You’ve just given birth and still knackered so need to rest at home. Also not ideal to do a 2 hour round trip with a tiny baby who will need feeding, etc. One month in, I was boobs out on the couch watching telly.