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To wish people would just respect age restrictions

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IndiaSS · 24/12/2024 10:43

Last night DH and I went to see the nutcracker, it's stated very clearly on the website 5+.
Beside us were a family, grandma, granddad, mum and daughter. The daughter looked about 3, maybe a very small 4.

The little girl did okay for a while but she kept moving between each of the adults knees and whispering. I wouldn't say it was super disruptive but it was hard to ignore and I really doubt she got anything out of it.

AIBU to think you should just respect the age restrictions on these things and to question why the theatre allowed them in?

Also why on earth do parents take kids to things that clearly aren't age appropriate?

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Ubertomusic · 24/12/2024 13:32

ByHeartyCyanMentor · 24/12/2024 13:02

I always think if you want to take kids go to the matinee. They are less tired and more likely to be able to focus.
But I do think it’s good for kids to go to the theatre, choose carefully though.
We saw The Nutcracker when she was 4 but we didn’t see Swan Lake until she was 12.

It's not always easy to go to a matinee if you work, weekends can be sold out, and people sometimes give away tickets to friends last minute and you don't have a babysitter etc.

MyLoftySwan · 24/12/2024 13:23

It's all very subjective and I imagine it's left to parental choice. My 5 year old at 3 was going to the theatre for kids shows and would happily sit for over an hour absolutely enthralled and not move from her seat or talk. She has gone to the panto for the second year in a row now and can easily sit through a film in the cinema. Whereas my current 3 year old absolutely will not be going to anything rated at 5+ when he is 5 as he just doesn't sit still. I wouldn't subject him to annoy anyone else even if I think he might enjoy it.

user1492757084 · 24/12/2024 13:22

The Nutcracker is for children.
It is one where I would have some leeway. Kids are the future patrons.
Maybe the child was close to 5 but still found it tiresome.
The parents will know for next time.
Good on them for frequenting the ballet.

Elphamouche · 24/12/2024 13:18

Theres a difference between guidance and a limit. If it’s a limit, the theatre should have checked.

Nanny0gg · 24/12/2024 13:14

TappyGilmore · 24/12/2024 12:29

If it’s an actual age restriction then the theatre staff shouldn’t have allowed her in. If it was just guidance then there isn’t much you can do.

I took my DD to shows from age 2 and she was always perfectly well behaved. Sometimes she just fell asleep so it was a bit of a waste of money but she wasn’t disturbing anyone else. So I don’t agree with age guidance because someone doesn’t think a child is capable of behaving, it should only be if content is unsuitable or for safety reasons. That said, of course I would abide by an actual restriction as opposed to just guidance. I’d be too concerned that the venue wouldn’t let her in if she wasn’t old enough.

This is another 'But not all...'

It is easier for everyone if there is specific age guidance and everyone sticks to it!

You might think your DC can behave, but one time they may not.
And just because yours can, others can't and no one knows till they kick off

So if there's an age restriction then just follow it
It's not the end of the world if they miss one show or film
Just take them to another one!

GagaBinks · 24/12/2024 13:07

I went to a theatre show 3 weeks post-partum and I saw someone carrying in a baby in a sling. I spent the entire first half of the show listening out for the baby crying (like I would have done at home with my own).

She was asked to leave by staff at the interval so I managed to relax somewhat in the second half but it still baffles me. Baby must've been about 6 months old. Obviously going to cry in a dark, loud room with loads of people!

UndeniablyGenXmasOfAWomblingMerryType · 24/12/2024 13:07

Possibly whoever was on the door couldn't be certain that the child wasn't five. It sounds like she was past the obvious chubby toddler stage.

BlushingBrightly · 24/12/2024 13:04

Ubertomusic · 24/12/2024 12:53

Duration is never "age inappropriate", the wording is about explicit content :)

For some maybe. I knew perfectly well that the poster wasn't referring to the Nutcracker having scenes of wild sex or shooting up. 'Age appropriate' is contextual, which sadly a lot of people don't get.

ByHeartyCyanMentor · 24/12/2024 13:02

I always think if you want to take kids go to the matinee. They are less tired and more likely to be able to focus.
But I do think it’s good for kids to go to the theatre, choose carefully though.
We saw The Nutcracker when she was 4 but we didn’t see Swan Lake until she was 12.

Ubertomusic · 24/12/2024 13:01

doodleschnoodle · 24/12/2024 12:43

DD1 has been going to the ballet since she was 3.5 but she's very well behaved in the theatre, doesn't talk, doesn't fidget, just loves to watch. Tbh I was at a show the other night and the odd fidgeting/whispering from young kids paled in comparison to the adults having proper conversations or lighting up the place with phone screens or trying to get back in the aisle after it had started again with their drinks, so I don't really have strong feelings about the kids thing. Bad/loud behaviour of course not, but sitting on a few different knees and the occasional whisper, I can't get worked up about that.

Was it a relaxed performance?
We went to one at ROH recently and lots of adults without children were on their phones all the time, and ushers randomly asked some to not record the performance while letting others do it. It was bizarre 😂

livingafulllife · 24/12/2024 13:00

When i was 4 some thought i was 2 as an adult i never grow past 4f11.
I was always tiny.
Now at 38 some find it hard to believe that i have an adult son 22 in may.
They will always be something for someone to pick at.

Cherrysoup · 24/12/2024 12:58

I found it very odd when in America that some babies were in the cinema. Can’t have been enjoyable for the parents who just stayed put despite the endless crying. There are baby matinees in one of my local cinemas, all very lovely, but I just don’t see the attraction of an evening film with babies.

Oodlesandoodlesofnoodles · 24/12/2024 12:57

Ubertomusic · 24/12/2024 12:39

So you would ban ND people from the theatre?
Nice.

A lot of places do relaxed performances especially for ND people. I don’t think it’s ok to have someone screaming throughout a standard performance, regardless of how old they are.

Oodlesandoodlesofnoodles · 24/12/2024 12:55

I thought you were going to say a crying baby or crazy toddler. There are four year olds at preschool that look younger and smaller than my two year old so you may well have estimated incorrectly in this case.

Ubertomusic · 24/12/2024 12:53

Longma · 24/12/2024 12:47

Duration of the show.
For this child, who the OP says couldn't sit still and remain in one place quietly, it was clearly not age appropriate for her.

And the show details state that under 5s shouldn't be there, so the venue and/or show have decided that the production isn't appropriate for under 5s.

Duration is never "age inappropriate", the wording is about explicit content :)

Longma · 24/12/2024 12:47

Ubertomusic · 24/12/2024 12:36

Also why on earth do parents take kids to things that clearly aren't age appropriate?

What is there in the Nutcracker that is not age appropriate? 😂

Duration of the show.
For this child, who the OP says couldn't sit still and remain in one place quietly, it was clearly not age appropriate for her.

And the show details state that under 5s shouldn't be there, so the venue and/or show have decided that the production isn't appropriate for under 5s.

doodleschnoodle · 24/12/2024 12:43

DD1 has been going to the ballet since she was 3.5 but she's very well behaved in the theatre, doesn't talk, doesn't fidget, just loves to watch. Tbh I was at a show the other night and the odd fidgeting/whispering from young kids paled in comparison to the adults having proper conversations or lighting up the place with phone screens or trying to get back in the aisle after it had started again with their drinks, so I don't really have strong feelings about the kids thing. Bad/loud behaviour of course not, but sitting on a few different knees and the occasional whisper, I can't get worked up about that.

Ubertomusic · 24/12/2024 12:39

SellFridges · 24/12/2024 12:17

I’m not so sure it should be about an age limit tbh. Anyone who is fidgeting or chatting through a theatre performance should be asked to leave.

I’ve been confused by age limits for standing gigs recently. Some are 12, some 14, some 16. Same with whether an adult is required at various ages. There’s no consistency so I assume it’s down to local council safety advisory groups more than a legal requirement. It affects me because DD likes watching live music and I have to double check every time (although she’s never actually been id’d anyway).

So you would ban ND people from the theatre?
Nice.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 24/12/2024 12:38

I think the ages in theatres are recommendations for what age they're aimed at not that those under that age are banned
My under 2 has been to plenty of theatre shows that say they're 3+ and he's loved them and has been wonderfully behaved

Ubertomusic · 24/12/2024 12:36

Also why on earth do parents take kids to things that clearly aren't age appropriate?

What is there in the Nutcracker that is not age appropriate? 😂

YellowAsteroid · 24/12/2024 12:36

Resilienceisimportant · 24/12/2024 12:18

Unless you saw her passport she might have been five. We can all point to a kid who is small or immature for their age.

Edited

The more important consideration is that she couldn't sit still & quiet, as anyone watching a ballet should.

YellowAsteroid · 24/12/2024 12:33

The little girl did okay for a while but she kept moving between each of the adults knees and whispering. I wouldn't say it was super disruptive but it was hard to ignore and I really doubt she got anything out of it.

I'd have found that quite disruptive. Neither she nor her parents know how to behave in a live performance - not the child's fault, though - the adults shouldn't have taken her.

TappyGilmore · 24/12/2024 12:29

If it’s an actual age restriction then the theatre staff shouldn’t have allowed her in. If it was just guidance then there isn’t much you can do.

I took my DD to shows from age 2 and she was always perfectly well behaved. Sometimes she just fell asleep so it was a bit of a waste of money but she wasn’t disturbing anyone else. So I don’t agree with age guidance because someone doesn’t think a child is capable of behaving, it should only be if content is unsuitable or for safety reasons. That said, of course I would abide by an actual restriction as opposed to just guidance. I’d be too concerned that the venue wouldn’t let her in if she wasn’t old enough.

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 24/12/2024 12:21

Examconfusion · 24/12/2024 11:49

It doesn’t matter if child in question was 3, 4 or 5. They weren’t behaving and the parents should have taken them out for a bit.

we went to the cinema the other evening to watch wicked, there was a family with two small children who chatted throughout. The film was at 7pm and is very long; it wasn’t suitable for those kids to be out disturbing everyone else in the cinema. Really annoying.

It does matter though, because the theatre stated on the website that there is an age restriction. (5+.) Why do some people think the rules don't apply to them?! Sooooo arrogant! Hmm

No WAY is a toddler of 2 or 3 going to want to sit through a sodding ballet. Take them to a fucking panto! Hmm

Resilienceisimportant · 24/12/2024 12:18

IndiaSS · 24/12/2024 10:43

Last night DH and I went to see the nutcracker, it's stated very clearly on the website 5+.
Beside us were a family, grandma, granddad, mum and daughter. The daughter looked about 3, maybe a very small 4.

The little girl did okay for a while but she kept moving between each of the adults knees and whispering. I wouldn't say it was super disruptive but it was hard to ignore and I really doubt she got anything out of it.

AIBU to think you should just respect the age restrictions on these things and to question why the theatre allowed them in?

Also why on earth do parents take kids to things that clearly aren't age appropriate?

Unless you saw her passport she might have been five. We can all point to a kid who is small or immature for their age.