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To think it’s so selfish to take sick kids out in public places

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picturethispatsy · 23/12/2024 21:48

Just this week alone I’ve had to sit with my immune-compromised child on a train and in a theatre near very obviously sick kids constantly coughing and visibly poorly with bright red cheeks/clearly running a fever.

Caveat: I know that there are occasions where you have to go out and run an errand or something similar & have no-one to leave said child with, but why would you take a very obviously poorly kid to the theatre (two adults and two children so one could’ve stayed at home), not least as it’s unfair to the child but also how selfish to knowingly spread a virus!? Especially in the run up to Xmas FFS.

I realise we can’t shield ourselves from every virus going and it’s part of being human to catch them but there is a difference between inadvertently spreading one and knowingly exposing others 😭

Do people genuinely not think or are they just that selfish?

OP posts:
Rudolphrednosed · 24/12/2024 03:22

My DC have pretty much had a cold or low level illness every week since September, if we stayed in every time they were ill we would have never been out!

babyproblems · 24/12/2024 02:59

I agree with you op.. we’ve been catching up with friends and I despair a bit when we meet up and their kids are full of thick snot and a horrific hawking cough! Which they never mention.. I think oh gawd that’s my kids over Xmas now!! I wish they would say beforehand.

BettyBardMacDonald · 24/12/2024 02:57

Craftysue · 23/12/2024 22:47

I work in a historical building and we run meet Santa sessions. A little boy attended today who had developed chicken pox spots overnight according to his parents- he was clearly feeling unwell and basically just sat and cried.There were 20 children attending the session including young babies and a couple of pregnant women.I have an autoimmune condition and the medication has a specific warning about the chicken pox virus so I've got to contact my GP in the morning to see if I need to take antivirals. I'm not happy

God, that's terrible.

There needs to be more social stigma for spreading contagious diseases.

BettyBardMacDonald · 24/12/2024 02:56

worrisome34 · 23/12/2024 22:35

Let parents decide if and when their kids need to stay at home. We have had to cancel a few Christmas plans because one or both dc were 'too' ill to go. By that I mean sleepy, feverish or being sick. In those cases it wouldn't be fair on anyone to drag them out.

However if we stayed at home every time one of them had a cough or a sniffle we wouldn't have been out of the house since September. Clearly not practical.

Bugs are part of life. Especially in the winter. Agree with pp, wear a face mask if you are that worried. But overall I think it's par for the course at this time of year. Yabu.

You can get out to walks and parks; there's no need to attend indoor events where your kids will spread their germs.

teatoast8 · 24/12/2024 02:49

My son had a cough for over 4 weeks. Finally starting to go. I still go out. You'd never leave the house if you stay in for every little thing you catch

ChampagneLassie · 24/12/2024 02:21

Craftysue · 23/12/2024 22:47

I work in a historical building and we run meet Santa sessions. A little boy attended today who had developed chicken pox spots overnight according to his parents- he was clearly feeling unwell and basically just sat and cried.There were 20 children attending the session including young babies and a couple of pregnant women.I have an autoimmune condition and the medication has a specific warning about the chicken pox virus so I've got to contact my GP in the morning to see if I need to take antivirals. I'm not happy

WTF is wrong with some people? @Craftysue thats ridiculous I hope you’re ok. That kid wasn’t exactly enjoying it, was he.

ARealitycheck · 24/12/2024 02:04

We've all had winters where it seems to be one cold after another. If we stayed home every time we would get nothing done. Covid does seem to have left an awfult lot of unnecesarry health anxiety.

Sorry OP but if your child is seriously immuno-compromised I'd suggest not travelling by public transport.

BlaBlaBla87436780087 · 24/12/2024 02:00

Surely if you’re that concerned you wouldn’t take an immune-compromised child on a train and to the theatre in winter?! You know there’s a massive risk of illness - kids / adults go out in public all the time ill for various reasons

Guest100 · 24/12/2024 02:00

serenitychair · 24/12/2024 01:53

I think you missed some of what I wrote. I said "That doesn't mean it's easy to stay at home with a cold, because sometimes that's not possible either."

We just have to do what we can, but crucially, deciding there's no need to even try because the immune compromised people should all just stay at home is not the answer.

But there will be at least a few people that are sick in any public location. I would like to avoid sick people too. But it’s just not possible. I wouldn’t go out if it was flu. But people can’t be expected to stay home with a cold.

serenitychair · 24/12/2024 01:53

Guest100 · 24/12/2024 01:38

Yes, but this applies to everyone. I have done the food shopping many times with a cold. I can’t just stay home when I’m sick.
When I was working I would still go to work with a cold. we weren’t allowed to call in sick but that’s not the point of this thread.

I think you missed some of what I wrote. I said "That doesn't mean it's easy to stay at home with a cold, because sometimes that's not possible either."

We just have to do what we can, but crucially, deciding there's no need to even try because the immune compromised people should all just stay at home is not the answer.

Guest100 · 24/12/2024 01:38

serenitychair · 24/12/2024 01:33

Some people literally have no option but to carry on going to work when immune compromised. Work that, like the work of people who aren't immune compromised, could be important and valuable to society as a whole. You can't just assume that all the vulnerable people can just stay at home, any more than disabled or blind people can all stay at home. People have to work. That doesn't mean it's easy to stay at home with a cold, because sometimes that's not possible either. It just means doing what you can, and not saying it's all unnecessary because vulnerable people should just stay at home.

Yes, but this applies to everyone. I have done the food shopping many times with a cold. I can’t just stay home when I’m sick.
When I was working I would still go to work with a cold. we weren’t allowed to call in sick but that’s not the point of this thread.

serenitychair · 24/12/2024 01:33

Some people literally have no option but to carry on going to work when immune compromised. Work that, like the work of people who aren't immune compromised, could be important and valuable to society as a whole. You can't just assume that all the vulnerable people can just stay at home, any more than disabled or blind people can all stay at home. People have to work. That doesn't mean it's easy to stay at home with a cold, because sometimes that's not possible either. It just means doing what you can, and not saying it's all unnecessary because vulnerable people should just stay at home.

endofthelinefinally · 24/12/2024 01:33

Guest100 · 24/12/2024 01:29

Maybe they were due to come home and had no choice?

Travel insurance covers change of arrangement for chicken pox becsuse it is so infectious. You wouldn't be allowed on a plane with it. Coughs and colds are one thing but chicken pox is a much bigger deal.

Guest100 · 24/12/2024 01:29

endofthelinefinally · 24/12/2024 01:25

Up to a point yes. However, I once found myself stuck in a Eurostar carriage just across the aisle from a child with obvious, active chicken pox. I am immunosuppressed and I do take care to use hand sanitzer and wear a mask, but some people are thoughtless.

Maybe they were due to come home and had no choice?

SomeOfUs · 24/12/2024 01:28

LovefromIris · 23/12/2024 21:52

Do you remember that time when everyone owned a face mask and wore it out of the house… maybe start wearing it again if you don’t want to catch germs I public. Just a thought.

I don’t know why, but people in England seem to view it this way… You believe that healthy people are protected when they wear masks, but the real source of the virus is the sick person, who should be wearing the mask. In fact, to enhance protection across the general population, it’s best if both sick and healthy individuals wear masks.

paradisecityx · 24/12/2024 01:27

From a parent of an immunocompromised child, I get you OP.
It's selfish behaviour. A simple "cold" to them could floor my child for a fortnight.
It's already hard enough to take my daughter out sometimes let a loan shoving a mask over her face.
It's selfish behaviour but unfortunately unless you have a child who's immunocompromised, you generally probably don't get it and don't give a toss.
X

endofthelinefinally · 24/12/2024 01:25

Opentooffers · 24/12/2024 01:16

The thing is, going out to places that have crowds when immunocompromised, is accepting the risk that you could catch something. With risk comes responsibility, so if you do catch something, you chose that as a possibility.

Up to a point yes. However, I once found myself stuck in a Eurostar carriage just across the aisle from a child with obvious, active chicken pox. I am immunosuppressed and I do take care to use hand sanitzer and wear a mask, but some people are thoughtless.

Resilienceisimportant · 24/12/2024 01:22

LovefromIris · 23/12/2024 21:52

Do you remember that time when everyone owned a face mask and wore it out of the house… maybe start wearing it again if you don’t want to catch germs I public. Just a thought.

Can you remind me? Something to do with being in prison but with your family? Always wearing sweatpants and not getting your hair cut? Banging pots outside and needing to hoarse toilet paper? 😂

Guest100 · 24/12/2024 01:18

Opentooffers · 24/12/2024 01:16

The thing is, going out to places that have crowds when immunocompromised, is accepting the risk that you could catch something. With risk comes responsibility, so if you do catch something, you chose that as a possibility.

This.
I also might be just about to come down with a cold and not know. So based on that I assume that if you are unable to manage catching a cold that you will stay home.

XenoBitch · 24/12/2024 01:18

Worldinyourhands · 24/12/2024 00:59

You're absolutely right, OP. People are selfish and disgusting about things likes coughs and colds. I hoped societal norms would change with Covid but I overestimated the people of the UK, unfotunately. It's almost as if people are more determined than ever to exercise their freedom to run around making other people feel terrible over Christmas. And then there's all the terrible hygiene, after being rude enough to go out in public in an unwell state. Urgh. Utterly revolting. Hope you and your family don't get poorly.

That is not really fair. No one out in public with a cold is doing so out of malice. If you feel well enough to be carrying on with life, then that is what people generally do. Some people literally have no option but to carry on when unwell.
And even healthcare staff can still work if able if they have Covid now. Not their fault... it is policy.

Guest100 · 24/12/2024 01:16

If it’s just a cold yes I still go out with kids if they are up to it.

Opentooffers · 24/12/2024 01:16

The thing is, going out to places that have crowds when immunocompromised, is accepting the risk that you could catch something. With risk comes responsibility, so if you do catch something, you chose that as a possibility.

Worldinyourhands · 24/12/2024 00:59

You're absolutely right, OP. People are selfish and disgusting about things likes coughs and colds. I hoped societal norms would change with Covid but I overestimated the people of the UK, unfotunately. It's almost as if people are more determined than ever to exercise their freedom to run around making other people feel terrible over Christmas. And then there's all the terrible hygiene, after being rude enough to go out in public in an unwell state. Urgh. Utterly revolting. Hope you and your family don't get poorly.

ABunchOfBadBitches · 24/12/2024 00:45

picturethispatsy · 23/12/2024 23:54

Thanks 👍 will take that onboard…

No problem👍

TheYearOfSmallThings · 24/12/2024 00:28

Realistically public transport and a packed theatre will never be safe places for anyone who is significantly immune suppressed. There will always be people who are unknowingly infectious, even if those with mild illnesses stayed home.

I agree that people with chicken pox or d&v should stay home, but with a cough or cold I don't think it is a reasonable expectation.