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Vanillaskieshazeleyes · 23/12/2024 16:33

Hi, I've posted before about generic things. But this is something I just cannot talk to people about in person.

Been with partner 13 years. Around 8 years ago he started mentioning me sleeping with other men.

That was a firm NO. Wouldn't dream of it. He sort of played it off as just a fantasy & I STUPIDLY played into it. It's now consumed him so much.

Every single time we're intimate he talks about it. I've said i don't mind now & then talking about it but every time just seems excessive. Anyway, the past few years he's been horrendous with it. Like a dog with a bone.

He's consistently encouraged me to go sleep with someone. I've said no, he said it that much that I said ok I'm going out to do it (I never I sat in my car for an hour) came back & he caused a scene about it. So obviously he didn't want me too do it the whole time.

Now he's saying things like, when will you have sex with me? You slept with someone else, when's it my go.

I'm absolutely devastated I've allowed this to go on so long. I've probably missed lots out, sorry. I'm 29. I feel like I've been under some form of abuse where sex is concerned. But I doubt I have. I want to leave him, I'm done with the whole situation. I could've lived with a fantasy. But he virtually sexual harasses me to sleep with other men.

I'm so glad I never did sleep with anyone. I just need some firm advice on how to be strong to leave him. I don't need judgement. I've done nothing wrong.

Thank you x

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NiftyPeachDreamer · 23/12/2024 19:18

shuggles · 23/12/2024 19:15

Rubbish. Clearly, none of this is calculated or thought out in that way. This is just a classic cuckhold fetish. Some men get extremely aroused when thinking about their partner having sex with other men.

If it was a cuckold fetish he wouldn’t be shaming her for having sex with another man (supposedly).

It’s just a stick to beat her with. He knows she won’t sleep with another man.

GremlinsStairlift · 23/12/2024 19:16

My friend could have written this, it is so similar. Even down to pretending to go on a date she didn't really attend and having to go back the next day with an elaborate lie. Over the course of the week he got jealous, nasty, insecure but also kept asking for dirty details to get off on. When she finally admitted she didn't go through with it he got angry and called her a liar! So there is no winning! It is absolute abuse.

What I have noticed is this behaviour often stems from the men being ashamed about their own sexuality (bi or gay in denial) so they use their women as tools to fulfil their fantasies of sex with other men. It escalates to the point they start asking for threesomes with other men or cuckolding experiences where they watch you have sex with another man. Again, I'm convinced it is because they wish they were the one having the sex.

I will tell you what I told my friend: He is pimping you out! Not for money but for his own sexual gratification. He has no regard for your safety by happily sending you off to some maniacal rapists for all anyone knows and you don't want to do it! He's a fucking psycho and an abusive piece of shit!

Honestly, reading this has pissed me off all over again.

shuggles · 23/12/2024 19:15

NiftyPeachDreamer · 23/12/2024 19:00

I suspect it’s just to have something to hold her over. She can never complain about anything he does because his response will always be ‘well you slept with another man’.

Even though he knows she didn’t.

Rubbish. Clearly, none of this is calculated or thought out in that way. This is just a classic cuckhold fetish. Some men get extremely aroused when thinking about their partner having sex with other men.

Wellwellwellys · 23/12/2024 19:08

OP, it seems like you’ve made your mind up about him leaving.

Check the tenancy agreement and I’d also advise contacting Women’s Aid for real practical advice. This sounds like a deeply abusive relationship, I’m sorry that is the case. I think once he no longer lives with you and you have time to reflect you may find other aspects of the relationship to have been abusive but normalised due to you both being young when you got together.

Take care as the end of relationships can be a dangerous time.

KTSl1964 · 23/12/2024 19:07

He's a deeply sick man - be persistent with him going - he's used to manipulating you - abusive - yes contact women's aid - check if he's on the tenancy but the relationship needs to be over. I hope you have some friends you can rely on and if he gets threatening to you CALL the police - the usual tactics is threatening suicide. What is wrong with lots of men?
Stay strong

OriginalUsername2 · 23/12/2024 19:06

Tell him his family is broken not because of you, because of him. Good dads don’t do things like make mums have sex with other men.

Wordsofprey · 23/12/2024 19:06

happyseason · 23/12/2024 18:55

Does he really think you went out for an hour and slept with someone? Who does he think you did it with? Are you sure he’s not just using it against you or still playing his horrible game by going along with it because it’s his fantasy?

The thought of it all being a little roleplay for him makes me feel sick. He sounds like a proper pervert, even though I'm sure he comes across as perfectly normal on the surface

Semi related, as a young 13/14 year old on the bus in the summer, me and my friend were wearing normal shorts and legs up on the seat. We noticed the man near us was taking photos of our legs. We didn't know what to do and it was all very scary especially at that age, but my point is that he looked like such an average, normal man, but was actually a disgusting pervert. Suit, tie, briefcase, no stand out features, wouldn't have earmarked as creepy at all.

When men look and act "normal" so to speak it's more difficult to believe that they would ever be so devious or dark minded. I can totally see how OP ends up at this point, it starts as little things and spaced apart until one day he's pestering her constantly and can't have sex without bringing It up.

theDudesmummy · 23/12/2024 19:05

When you say he is asking "when is his turn", I presume that means you have not had sex with him since the situation of pretending to have had sex with someone else? In which case, good. Keep that up and get rid of him asap.

ThinWomansBrain · 23/12/2024 19:01

if you've been with him since you were 16, time to leave, spend some time on your own and then a better relationship with someone that treats you with respect.
Is your partner the same age as you?- it doesn't sound as if he has moved on from being 16/

NiftyPeachDreamer · 23/12/2024 19:00

happyseason · 23/12/2024 18:55

Does he really think you went out for an hour and slept with someone? Who does he think you did it with? Are you sure he’s not just using it against you or still playing his horrible game by going along with it because it’s his fantasy?

I suspect it’s just to have something to hold her over. She can never complain about anything he does because his response will always be ‘well you slept with another man’.

Even though he knows she didn’t.

NiftyPeachDreamer · 23/12/2024 18:59

Vanillaskieshazeleyes · 23/12/2024 16:58

Thank you for the replies x

We have two children together (they have never been exposed to any of it) in case someone suggests that.

It's council owned home. I am no contact with the majority of my family. That's for another day.

He's extremely manipulative with me. I've said I want him to leave after Christmas & it's all the sob story of how he loves me, its all my fault, how could I leave him with no support but I can go sleep with a random man. I haven't even wasted my time telling him I actually didn't sleep with anyone.

He probably wouldn't believe me anyway.

I'd just like some emotional support. Because deep down I still care & that makes me feel like putting up & shutting up. When I know in my heart it's not right. X

So it shows that he wants you to sleep with someone just so that he has a stick to beat you with for life.

No one will judge you here, you have made the right decision to leave.

happyseason · 23/12/2024 18:55

Does he really think you went out for an hour and slept with someone? Who does he think you did it with? Are you sure he’s not just using it against you or still playing his horrible game by going along with it because it’s his fantasy?

Teasloth · 23/12/2024 18:53

jeaux90 · 23/12/2024 16:51

Why are you staying with someone who has no respect for your boundaries.

He is basically a disgusting pervert who personifies rape culture.

Ditch the sex pest please. You'll feel so much better.

All of this

Wordsofprey · 23/12/2024 18:52

Vanillaskieshazeleyes · 23/12/2024 17:23

I've already told him it's over & he has to leave after Christmas. But now it's the guilt tripping & how I'm ruining our family, taking the children's dad away from them. There's no point in me engaging in any thing he says, he's absolutely incapable of seeing WHY I'm leaving x

Edited

Sorry I'm not sure if someone has said this before this comment, but if he hasn't been immediately like "fuck, I'm so so sorry, I didn't realise how much I was going on about it and I'll never mention it again as I can see it's causing you distress and I love you so much and don't want to harm you" then he's a wrongen. Even then, I don't think it would be enough in these circumstances for you to give him another chance.

Instead he's blaming you?! And trying to manipulate you. Big no no. His behaviour on a whole is giving very abusive, controlling, so on. I do feel you are a victim of some kind of sexual abuse at this point too. It popped into my head he could've even gone on and on about it to convince you to do it so he has something against you.

Also, no shame at all if you actually did do it because of his pressure. But whether you did or didn't, I'll take your word that you didn't, it doesn't matter because he's hyper focused on it and you deserve better. Don't worry about him causing a scene, let him. If he's not on the tenancy give him a date to leave. Xxx

NameChanges123 · 23/12/2024 18:44

PLEASE just leave him. This is abuse.

viques · 23/12/2024 18:43

You were very young when you got together with him. It really sounds as though he has tried to coerce and manipulate you. I don’t know what your earlier relationship history is, but suspect it was pretty limited, and due to your age would probably have been fairly innocuous . I think you have been slowly manipulated into thinking that his weird controlling behaviour is normal.

It isn’t.

Everlygreen · 23/12/2024 18:41

Do this. Record the next conversation that he has with you about this. All the gory details. Dump him, then send it to all his friends and family telling them what he's done to you. That will shame him forever. Disgusting pervert.

Cotonsugar · 23/12/2024 18:40

Iwishminebigger · 23/12/2024 17:19

If you have been together for 13 years he has done a job on you, he has conditioned you to very nearly agreeing to this bizarre idea of his.
That French guy with the drug fuelled rapes started small.
Wait until the next event that is serious then call the police and SS.

I thought this straight away. The French pervert’s wife was used to satisfy his sexual fantasies. Obviously this situation isn’t the same but the objectification of the OP is.

Vanillaskieshazeleyes · 23/12/2024 18:37

Thanks again for the majority of the lovely advice & support. It means more than you'll all know.

To clear a few things up, we're the same age. I can cope on my own, I'm not vulnerable in the sense where I have no means of escaping.

It's basically ended between us it's just trying to remain strong & not falling back into the trap of false promises etc.

My two children are absolutely safe, I've always explained about abuse in a way they understand & how they must tell me if ANYONE was to do anything like that. They're with me almost constantly. I don't know why I'm needing to explain that. That's not the issue, because nothing along those lines would ever happen. Ever.

I'll contact womens aid. Thanks for the ones who've given me good advice. X

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GivingitToGod · 23/12/2024 18:35

Vanillaskieshazeleyes · 23/12/2024 17:02

I think it's just me but I can't say for certain

OP, I firmly believe that your relationship is over. You need to say goodbye. How can you possibly be at peace with someone who behaves like this?
You need support to separate
Sending you strength

Vanillaskieshazeleyes · 23/12/2024 18:32

Wonderi · 23/12/2024 18:28

I agree.

I would like to know how old he was when they met.

This obsession has been going on for almost all of her 20s which is so sad.

Its either a fetish or it’s a an abuse/control tactic.

I’m worried that as she got with him so young that she’s very vulnerable and doesn’t know how to be on her own/ he’s made her believe she can’t cope on her own.

We're both the same age. I absolutely can cope & I'm not vulnerable. I've made it very clear he's got to leave. He will leave. I just wanted some emotional support. I could honestly do without assumptions being made about me & then the whole point of this post is derailed.

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Wonderi · 23/12/2024 18:28

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 23/12/2024 18:17

OP, you were still a child when this creepy man came into your life. He’s let his obsession with sleazy fantasies take over your relationship, and now inevitably he wants it to take over your life. You and your children deserve better. I hope you can get him out of your house, and preferably avoid letting him have the children unsupervised — children should not be exposed to an obsessive sex fetishist.

I agree.

I would like to know how old he was when they met.

This obsession has been going on for almost all of her 20s which is so sad.

Its either a fetish or it’s a an abuse/control tactic.

I’m worried that as she got with him so young that she’s very vulnerable and doesn’t know how to be on her own/ he’s made her believe she can’t cope on her own.

Flatulence · 23/12/2024 18:27

This is sexual abuse.

Having a fantasy and asking a partner to do something to indulge that fantasy is fine. But when one asks the other person has a right to say 'no' and for that to be respected. He isn't respecting this - and that's abuse.

Add in the fact that he went mad when he thought you had slept with someone else it makes it even more abusive and sinister. It potentially falls within coercive control.

If you want to leave this relationship - and you sound like you do - then seek support through a women's centre in your area. You can also contact Citizen's Advice, your GP/NHS services, your local authority or the housing association for your area. If you have the money, consider speaking to a solicitor too.

You deserve better than to be manipulated and controlled by someone who is meant to care for you. You're more than strong enough to end this relationship.

Editing to add: if he won't leave, and it's your name on the deeds, or if he simply won't stay away from you/your kids you can (and should) apply for a non-molestation order https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/apply-for-a-non-molestation-or-occupation-order-fl401

It's easiest to do via a family law solicitor but you can do it yourself online.

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 23/12/2024 18:17

OP, you were still a child when this creepy man came into your life. He’s let his obsession with sleazy fantasies take over your relationship, and now inevitably he wants it to take over your life. You and your children deserve better. I hope you can get him out of your house, and preferably avoid letting him have the children unsupervised — children should not be exposed to an obsessive sex fetishist.

SpryCat · 23/12/2024 18:13

I would check your tenancy agreement, don’t ask him if he is on it neither. If you are both on as joint tenants you will have to chuck him out as getting another one will be nigh on impossible. Get your locks changed immediately after he leaves.
You will feel so relieved once he has gone @Vanillaskieshazeleyes no more having to endure his constant badgering. I bet the atmosphere in the home will be better too.
Don’t feel bad when he is trying to talk you round or putting on the guilt about splitting his family up. No means no, not years and years of hassle, your obviously not suited for each other and your Dc will get used to not living with dad. X