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Vanillaskieshazeleyes · 23/12/2024 16:33

Hi, I've posted before about generic things. But this is something I just cannot talk to people about in person.

Been with partner 13 years. Around 8 years ago he started mentioning me sleeping with other men.

That was a firm NO. Wouldn't dream of it. He sort of played it off as just a fantasy & I STUPIDLY played into it. It's now consumed him so much.

Every single time we're intimate he talks about it. I've said i don't mind now & then talking about it but every time just seems excessive. Anyway, the past few years he's been horrendous with it. Like a dog with a bone.

He's consistently encouraged me to go sleep with someone. I've said no, he said it that much that I said ok I'm going out to do it (I never I sat in my car for an hour) came back & he caused a scene about it. So obviously he didn't want me too do it the whole time.

Now he's saying things like, when will you have sex with me? You slept with someone else, when's it my go.

I'm absolutely devastated I've allowed this to go on so long. I've probably missed lots out, sorry. I'm 29. I feel like I've been under some form of abuse where sex is concerned. But I doubt I have. I want to leave him, I'm done with the whole situation. I could've lived with a fantasy. But he virtually sexual harasses me to sleep with other men.

I'm so glad I never did sleep with anyone. I just need some firm advice on how to be strong to leave him. I don't need judgement. I've done nothing wrong.

Thank you x

OP posts:
Jewel52 · 24/12/2024 21:02

Feel so sad for you as these men are next level cruel and have absolutely no empathy.

i wish I could show you how this plays out if you don’t get out early. My ex ground my self confidence into the dust and treated my children like toys. He wants to see them on their birthday and at Christmas to play at being a dad with no interest in their wellbeing whatsoever.

Please believe that you’re all better off without him and involve every support service you can get to force this self obsessed prick out of your lives. 💐

YourGladSquid · 24/12/2024 20:58

Vanillaskieshazeleyes · 24/12/2024 17:04

Hi all, me again.

I've had the begging today & crying. It gets me down so much. It's making me feel like going back on my word.

I wish I weren't so mentally weak x

Girl you deserve someone who wants to have sex with you for you and not as a vessel to fulfill a fetish. He can pay someone for that.

SpryCat · 24/12/2024 20:57

He deliberately goes on and on to wear you down, he doesn’t care how you feel it’s all about him and always will be. This is Christmas, it’s about the kids but as usual he’s making it all about him.

Daleksatemyshed · 24/12/2024 19:37

Op, he knows if you leave it's back to being just him and his obsession, don't let him get to you. You don't want to be with him anymore so just go

Wonderi · 24/12/2024 18:37

If you go back on your word then the crying and begging is going to get worse because he knows that’s how to get under your skin.

Tell him that his behaviour is making you not want to be with him even more.

Just be a bit careful because men will try the ‘poor me’ act and when that doesn’t work then they start getting angry.

GymBergerac · 24/12/2024 17:47

Please leave him. Personal experience of this, and it never goes away. Keep yourself safe and don't let yourself be ground down.
I imagine that in saying you'd do it/had done it, you expected it would scratch his itch, and that they might be the end of it, but trust me, you won't "win" this. You're not supposed to win, and it won't end.
Take care of yourself.

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 24/12/2024 17:13

Vanillaskieshazeleyes · 24/12/2024 17:04

Hi all, me again.

I've had the begging today & crying. It gets me down so much. It's making me feel like going back on my word.

I wish I weren't so mentally weak x

Just get through tomorrow with your children don’t let him ruin that.
But don’t give in, the damage has been done.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 24/12/2024 17:12

How soon after Christmas ( which is tomorrow ) can he leave.
then you can start counting down the hours !

Vanillaskieshazeleyes · 24/12/2024 17:04

Hi all, me again.

I've had the begging today & crying. It gets me down so much. It's making me feel like going back on my word.

I wish I weren't so mentally weak x

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shuggles · 24/12/2024 13:47

@GremlinsStairlift By twisting the narrative and telling people she cheated. Threatening to tell other people to shame her. Shaming her with 'you slept with another man' even though he practically forced it.

Equally, it's very easy to keep recorded conversations of what this man has said, along with written messages and screenshots.

So if he ever did use it as blackmail, then the other half of the story could also be revealed.

And in that scenario, he would look 100 times worse because it would be clear that (1) he instigated the situation, and (2) every man would know he is a cuck.

GremlinsStairlift · 24/12/2024 08:56

shuggles · 23/12/2024 20:09

@GremlinsStairlift Have to disagree. My friend is in this exact situation and her DH absolutely has the mind set of storing up information that can later be used as blackmail against her. He is a very calculated person.

How exactly can a woman having sex with another man (which her husband wanted her to do) be used against the woman as blackmail?

By twisting the narrative and telling people she cheated. Threatening to tell other people to shame her. Shaming her with 'you slept with another man' even though he practically forced it. OP is not dealing with a normal person here. My friend's husband has texts from when she pretended to go on a date he said he is keeping as 'evidence.'

SpryCat · 23/12/2024 23:21

I would tell him he has two choices, one: he shuts the fuck up and makes an effort for the dc and moves in a week or so or two: if he can’t stfu (we know he can’t because he’s like a dog with a bone) he can pack a few bags and leave tonight!

Imbusytodaysorry · 23/12/2024 22:52

Tell him he won’t be staying for Xmas and to go tonight if he doesn’t stop .

He sounds exhausting . Does he ever shut up !

jeaux90 · 23/12/2024 22:39

You sound strong OP.
Strong willed and determined.

Can you tell someone your trust, a friend or Women's Aid about what's going on so you have some support to help you through this difficult part?

They try anything at this point to make you change your mind so pick a sentence you are happy with and repeat it over and over.

"Its over between us, I won't negotiate on this anymore. We can put the children first and make this easy but you need to move out asap"

TriptoTipp · 23/12/2024 22:19

Vanillaskieshazeleyes · 23/12/2024 20:48

& now I'm getting the "you're using the children as a weapon" it's getting me down so much. It's making me feel terrible. Just sick of it.

You need to take yourself out of his emotional punching distance as much as possible. Can you take yourself out of the house / room. Call a friend? He is still trying to coerce and control you.

SpryCat · 23/12/2024 22:17

Your not using your children as a weapon @Vanillaskieshazeleyes you know your relationship has reached the end. Staying wouldn’t be good for your Mh and it would affect your Dc, they pick up tension and can tell when we are stressed.
You have to just switch off from him at the moment because he will be using everything in his arsenal to persuade you to change your mind and will use guilt, telling you he can’t live without you etc until he leaves. He has boundary issues, he sees you as an extension of him and his needs, I doubt he realises you have wants or needs yourself.
You can do this Op x

YourGladSquid · 23/12/2024 22:00

Vanillaskieshazeleyes · 23/12/2024 20:48

& now I'm getting the "you're using the children as a weapon" it's getting me down so much. It's making me feel terrible. Just sick of it.

He’ll say anything and everything to get you to stay. Once he understands you’re resolved he might even threaten to want full custody or something along those lines, especially knowing you don’t have a support system to turn to.

I was in an abusive relationship from 15 to 25 and he had me fully convinced I’d never be able to make it without him. Now I look back and I can’t believe I ever let a man treat me like that. There’s so much better out there.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 23/12/2024 21:51

You have been with him since you were 16 ?
How old is he ?

KhakiOrca · 23/12/2024 21:45

Sorry to say but he’s cheating on you. Same thing happened with my ex. I felt dilisgusted. He was seeing his ex.

OriginalUsername2 · 23/12/2024 21:36

Vanillaskieshazeleyes · 23/12/2024 20:48

& now I'm getting the "you're using the children as a weapon" it's getting me down so much. It's making me feel terrible. Just sick of it.

Just remember he’ll know what hurts and will say exactly those things to you.

Illgotothefootofourstairs · 23/12/2024 21:29

He is using his fetish as a weapon !!
It’s not a healthy atmosphere for children to be in and he’s a crap dad if he doesn’t realise that.

Vanillaskieshazeleyes · 23/12/2024 20:48

& now I'm getting the "you're using the children as a weapon" it's getting me down so much. It's making me feel terrible. Just sick of it.

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Allthehorsesintheworld · 23/12/2024 20:48

The guilt tripping will follow a script. Just be prepared and work out a one sentence answer.
As soon as Christmas is over you could get the ball rolling. I’m sure I read somewhere that in cases of abuse councils will sign over the tenancy to the abused person, the abuser leaves. Phone your council and ask to speak to a housing officer. Or phone Shelter for advice.
Once your housing is secure everything else will fall into place. You are beginning to seoarate emotionally from him and the more you plan your life without him the easier that will become.

TriptoTipp · 23/12/2024 20:38

Vanillaskieshazeleyes · 23/12/2024 20:30

This is the part that absolutely batters my head. How could he want me to sleep with another man, then when it comes down to it, he uses it against me? It confuses me so so much. For anyone who'll read this without reading the thread. I have NOT slept with another man x

Coercion is always about punishment in the end.

Compliance never satisfies.

Jewel52 · 23/12/2024 20:37

Interesting that you mention being non contact with your family as abusive men have a type.

I was in an emotionally abusive marriage for many years and had a very difficult upbringing which meant I stayed with my husband despite the mental abuse, infidelity and gaslighting.

Staying was really harmful for my children who’re now young adults and don’t want anything to do with him as he began to manipulate them when he couldn’t damage me.

Stick with your decision and limit his influence on your children so they don’t grow up believing this type of relationship is normal.