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Am I being unreasonable to leave my in-laws’ at Christmas because MIL won’t stop with trying to guess if I'm pregnant

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mariannnnaa · 23/12/2024 12:54

We’ve got secondary infertility, and our toddler is our only child right now. Because both sets of parents live far away from us and each other, we take turns spending Christmas with them, staying about a week each time. This year, it’s my in-laws’ turn.

The issue is my MIL. She’s desperate to be a grandma again and has always been pushy about it. When I was pregnant with my toddler, she was annoyed we waited until 10 weeks to tell her (instead of immediately). DH and I held off because we knew that, if something went wrong, she’d be the least supportive person. She has no filter and often says things that are thoughtless or hurtful.

We’re currently doing IVF, but the in-laws don’t know. MIL would make it so much worse with her comments. She’s already said things to DH’s cousin like, “When are you finally going to get pregnant?” when they were having IVF, and when she heard about their miscarriage, her reaction was, “Oh, what a shame! I was really looking forward to baby cuddles this autumn.”

Whenever we visit, she won’t stop with the constant “jokey” questions. She’ll say things like, “Can I offer you some wine? Hahaha!” Or if we’re discussing lunch places, it’s, “Sushi? Marianna, SUSHI? What do you think?” with a smug little laugh. If I’m not hungry, it’s, “Ooh, not much appetite? Ginger helped me every time I was, you know, a little queasy…” It’s relentless.

Today, we went to a fair, and just before I got on a ride with my toddler, she pointed to a sign about pregnant women avoiding it and asked, “You’re still going on?” When I nodded, she added, “Guess no grandchild by summer, then!”

DH has already spoken to her and told her to stop. He didn’t mention IVF, but he said her comments are unhelpful and stressful. She just brushes it off with, “Oh, I’m not pressuring anyone! I’m just excited for when it happens.”

Honestly, I’ve had enough. As soon as my toddler wakes up from their nap, I want to leave. I can’t face another sly remark, like, “Want some ice cream? Don’t worry, it’s pasteurised!” I had a miscarriage earlier this year, and IVF is already stressful enough without all of this on top, especially at Christmas. I’d rather spend it alone with my child than pretend I’m fine while trying not to cry every five minutes.

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 23/12/2024 16:52

DH needs to have a serious word with his mum

Sounds like he already has done, @Roselilly36, and it's not worked since the only response is "Oooo I'm excited / I'm just trying to guess" and other similar nonsense

Unfortunately people like this are hard to dissuade - I have a friend who does it, and her DCs have told her they're never having kids, though I know they hope to - so sadly the only thing that works is to shut it down completely

Tiredofallthis101 · 23/12/2024 16:50

I think it is enough for DH to say- Mum. I have asked you and asked you not to make these remarks. You may think it is cute and funny but we don't. This is your last warning - next time you make one of these comments we will be leaving. And mean it - leave if she says anything. She will soon learn.

BettyBardMacDonald · 23/12/2024 16:44

It's the snarky glee in her comments that would be the last straw.

Plus she sees you as nothing more than a brood mare.

Enough is enough.

MollieSugdon · 23/12/2024 16:43

Honestly I'd be tempted to say "change the fucking record will you?"

FeliznaviDogs · 23/12/2024 16:42

TwigletsAndRadishes · 23/12/2024 15:29

You haven't told her about the IVF but did you tell her about the miscarriage this year? To give her the benefit of the doubt for a second, if she doesn't know about either of those things then she probably has no idea just how much of a raw nerve she's touching. She's not a mind reader. She's obviously not the most emotionally intelligent person but I think that packing up and leaving is rather extreme at this point, if she's so far completely unaware of your struggles. Your DH should just tell her. Not necessarily about the IVF, or even about the miscarriage if you really don't want to, although that would stop her in her tracks and make her think a bit about the impact of her 'jokey' remarks.

But she does at least need to know that you are really struggling and it's upsetting you both and you'd really, really appreciate it if she could just shut up about the whole thing.

Then, if she doesn't, of course you pack your bags and leave.

MiL wasn’t sympathetic about the other loss in the family and just moaned she wouldn’t have a baby cuddles in autumn. So I can see why OP really doesn’t want to tell her.

EveryOtherNameTaken · 23/12/2024 16:42

Selfish Cow.

I'd pre-empt by saying literally on greeting 'Before you start your banter, I'm not pregnant nor will be by the time I leave so let's leave it our while I'm here please'

FeliznaviDogs · 23/12/2024 16:38

TwigletsAndRadishes · 23/12/2024 16:25

Really? This woman is quite likely to be barely more than 50. Not everyone is the child of someone who had them in their 30s or 40's and is themselves having children in their 30s or 40s. My mother had three grandchildren by the time she was 47.

My family member was 59 at this point. Early, but it happens. Of course if MiL has always been like this then she’s just very self centered and a nasty witch. Which sounds more likely. But I’d deffo be tempted with the pretence that ‘we ‘ had made a docs apt as she keeps parroting the same stuff after being asked to stop.

I quite like the references to asking if she has her will and funeral plan sorted out too. Hold up a mirror to MiL and see if she thinks that’s funny.

Speedygonzales78 · 23/12/2024 16:38

Jeez, she sounds like my MIL, not called Denise is she?
I had to endure the same for 12 YEARS! because we hadn't given her grandchildren. She didn't know we were trying and nothing happening, we had 4 rounds of ivf and now have a little boy, who she's never seen after a comment sent me over the edge and we went no contact.

Dont go this Christmas, spend the day with your DH and toddler, she sounds unbearable!

FictionalCharacter · 23/12/2024 16:36

HermioneWeasley · 23/12/2024 13:01

Pack up and leave and tell her why. It’s the only way she’ll learn to hold her tongue

Yep. She's been told, and not only is she still doing it, she's doing it gleefully. She won't stop because she enjoys it. So the only thing to do is take yourself away from her and not invite her to your home.
She should be told that she's well on the way to being cut off completely and never seeing her grandchildren at all.

GravyBoatWars · 23/12/2024 16:30

You absolutely aren’t unreasonable for leaving.

I do think it will be most effective if your DH lays down the crystal clear boundary first. “Mum, the next time you make any sort of pregnancy comment, fish for information or even suggest [OP] might be pregnant, we’re leaving. It doesn’t matter if you think it’s funny or pressure-free, it is completely unwelcome.” Then when she does it again you immediately pack up and leave. He (and you) should participate in absolutely zero discussion about the nature of comments or how she means it, just lay down an utterly no-exceptions boundary that you’re not negotiating.

I’m so sorry. That sort of presumption and nosiness is infuriating in the best of situations and fertility struggles make it so much worse. People should know better.

Applepoop · 23/12/2024 16:30

She sounds awful - insensitive and pushy. I think leaving is justified.

devilspawn · 23/12/2024 16:30

dapsnotplimsolls · 23/12/2024 15:59

  1. Drink a bottle of wine in front of her.
  2. Vomit on her carpet.
  3. Leave.

Oooh this.

Or, "We've decided not to have any more kids as we're moving to Australia. We think we'll come back once every 3 years for a week or so, so you can see [toddler]."

Roselilly36 · 23/12/2024 16:30

DH needs to have a serious word with his mum. I can’t believe MIL would be so rude tbh. I wouldn’t dream of speaking to a future DIL like this, totally out of line. Good luck with the IVF OP.

nouveaunomduplume · 23/12/2024 16:28

Another vote for leave. Life is too short to put up with that kind of shit.

TwigletsAndRadishes · 23/12/2024 16:25

FeliznaviDogs · 23/12/2024 16:16

PPs advice have all been very good. OP is polite, and hurting, understandably. My inner b1tch would want to do this - or the alternative “Doris, we’re quite worried for you. You keep repeating yourself and don’t realise you’re doing it. We’ve booked you in with the GP for a memory test as we’re seriously concerned about your cognitive decline and we really want to help and make sure you get the best treatment.”.

Actually - could dementia be a possibility? I only ask as the first sign in a family member was a complete 180 in their personality. The usual kindness and empathy had fucked off and they were making quiet cruel comments about someone in family who had lost a baby. That was when we gathered forces and we did just as above, and it was indeed dementia.

Sorry you’re going through this OP. You deserve a peaceful and relaxing Christmas.

Really? This woman is quite likely to be barely more than 50. Not everyone is the child of someone who had them in their 30s or 40's and is themselves having children in their 30s or 40s. My mother had three grandchildren by the time she was 47.

Browningstown · 23/12/2024 16:23

Don't give it any more thought.
Protect your stress levels.
I cannot believe you have tolerated this for as long as you have.

Pack those bags and leave now.
Tell your husband you are 100% done.

If you were my daughter I would be beyond furious on your behalf.

Not normal.
She is a nasty, batshit bitch.

lifeonmars100 · 23/12/2024 16:22

What an appalling woman, "banter" oh really? No it is nasty, underhand and hurtful. I especially hate the banter excuse, adds insult to injury and the people who say that no exactly what they are up to

MumblesParty · 23/12/2024 16:22

OP I know it’s not what you want to do, but when I was going through IVF I found the only way to stop people upsetting me was to be honest with them. I’d get all the “when are you going to get pregnant” etc, so I’d say “I don’t know. I’m going through IVF at the moment and it’s the hardest thing I’ve ever done, so please don’t ask me about it or I’ll cry”.

Baggyprincess · 23/12/2024 16:19

If you can give her once last chance. Be frank with her, next time she mentions it cut her off immediately, “Please stop. I am not pregnant and your constant little hints and insinuations are insulting and hurtful, do it again and we leave.” And mean it.

FeliznaviDogs · 23/12/2024 16:16

PPs advice have all been very good. OP is polite, and hurting, understandably. My inner b1tch would want to do this - or the alternative “Doris, we’re quite worried for you. You keep repeating yourself and don’t realise you’re doing it. We’ve booked you in with the GP for a memory test as we’re seriously concerned about your cognitive decline and we really want to help and make sure you get the best treatment.”.

Actually - could dementia be a possibility? I only ask as the first sign in a family member was a complete 180 in their personality. The usual kindness and empathy had fucked off and they were making quiet cruel comments about someone in family who had lost a baby. That was when we gathered forces and we did just as above, and it was indeed dementia.

Sorry you’re going through this OP. You deserve a peaceful and relaxing Christmas.

friskybivalves · 23/12/2024 16:13

Two options. Bat her away with humour: 'We're waiting for the right moment—like when we win the lottery!'

Or

'Every time you drop one of your awful hints we add another year to our timeline. So far we are at 17 years but by Xmas Eve it will be 34.'

Or you batter her into the ground.

'MIL you have the empathy of a fucking steamroller. I'm off.'

Could try option 1 first?

JFDIYOLO · 23/12/2024 16:09

Do you watch Miranda?

Stevie holds up a stick with a photo of Heather Small and sings 'what have you done today to make you feel proud?'

You could adapt it ...

Maybe hold up a pic of her from Frozen and sing 'Let It Go' really loudly and a bit out of tune.

Every. Single. Time.

OhMaria2 · 23/12/2024 16:09

dapsnotplimsolls · 23/12/2024 15:59

  1. Drink a bottle of wine in front of her.
  2. Vomit on her carpet.
  3. Leave.

Chaos option. Very good! 🤣

MrsBobtonTrent · 23/12/2024 16:08

Just leave. Follow through like you are dealing with a misbehaving toddler. There are two outcomes. Outcome 1 - she realises you are serious about not wanting to hear it. Outcome 2 - you don't have to hear anymore snide remarks because you are not there. It's a win/win.

Ihopeithinkiknow · 23/12/2024 16:07

Just say "well it would be a miracle considering your son has had a vasectomy so no more grandchildren from us I'm afraid"
I know it's a massive lie but that would mean the comments would stop (hopefully) because she would think there is no way it's gonna happen and when it does happen for you both and you get your baby you can tell her the truth then, if she kicks off about the lie just tell her that it's her own fault for going on and on about it causing you unnecessary stress.
What an insensitive woman she is