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Am I being unreasonable to leave my in-laws’ at Christmas because MIL won’t stop with trying to guess if I'm pregnant

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mariannnnaa · 23/12/2024 12:54

We’ve got secondary infertility, and our toddler is our only child right now. Because both sets of parents live far away from us and each other, we take turns spending Christmas with them, staying about a week each time. This year, it’s my in-laws’ turn.

The issue is my MIL. She’s desperate to be a grandma again and has always been pushy about it. When I was pregnant with my toddler, she was annoyed we waited until 10 weeks to tell her (instead of immediately). DH and I held off because we knew that, if something went wrong, she’d be the least supportive person. She has no filter and often says things that are thoughtless or hurtful.

We’re currently doing IVF, but the in-laws don’t know. MIL would make it so much worse with her comments. She’s already said things to DH’s cousin like, “When are you finally going to get pregnant?” when they were having IVF, and when she heard about their miscarriage, her reaction was, “Oh, what a shame! I was really looking forward to baby cuddles this autumn.”

Whenever we visit, she won’t stop with the constant “jokey” questions. She’ll say things like, “Can I offer you some wine? Hahaha!” Or if we’re discussing lunch places, it’s, “Sushi? Marianna, SUSHI? What do you think?” with a smug little laugh. If I’m not hungry, it’s, “Ooh, not much appetite? Ginger helped me every time I was, you know, a little queasy…” It’s relentless.

Today, we went to a fair, and just before I got on a ride with my toddler, she pointed to a sign about pregnant women avoiding it and asked, “You’re still going on?” When I nodded, she added, “Guess no grandchild by summer, then!”

DH has already spoken to her and told her to stop. He didn’t mention IVF, but he said her comments are unhelpful and stressful. She just brushes it off with, “Oh, I’m not pressuring anyone! I’m just excited for when it happens.”

Honestly, I’ve had enough. As soon as my toddler wakes up from their nap, I want to leave. I can’t face another sly remark, like, “Want some ice cream? Don’t worry, it’s pasteurised!” I had a miscarriage earlier this year, and IVF is already stressful enough without all of this on top, especially at Christmas. I’d rather spend it alone with my child than pretend I’m fine while trying not to cry every five minutes.

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Parisienne123 · 23/12/2024 21:50

Have you told her straight that you aren’t pregnant and if she keeps making comments you’ll have to leave as it’s upsetting you?

Dollshousedolly · 23/12/2024 21:50

Imjustlikeyou2 · 23/12/2024 19:45

I haven’t rtft so I don’t know if anyone else has the same opinion as me, but I think if you’ve told your parents and close friends shouldn’t DH be able to tell his parents you’re having fertility struggles/ivf if he wants to? It’s his life too after all… & I’m sure would put a stop to the comments. If you haven’t mentioned it she can’t be expected to be a mind reader & is probably from a different generation where not everything is offensive.

I think if this woman did know the OP was going through IVF, she’d be worse. Passing comment/asking questions - I think most of us can almost write the write the script on what she’d say.

If you’re still there OP, next time she says anything - say ‘’I don’t know how to say this politely, but will you please shut up with such comments”. And ignored her feigned surprised and hurt air.

ButterCrackers · 23/12/2024 21:42

Tell your MIL that it takes two to get pregnant so from now she can direct her constant pregnancy comments at her son. If she makes any more comments to you about pregnancy and/or future grandchildren you and your child will leave immediately. Have your bags ready. Do you have a car? Keep the key with you at all times so it can’t be hidden- the same for your house keys and cash cards. Note the number of a taxi, train and bus times. Check out local hotels in case it’s during the night. Get your plans together.

Xmasfairy86 · 23/12/2024 21:39

FiftyPenceWorth · 23/12/2024 20:12

'Right Sandra, we've asked you nicely to stop with the comments about me being pregnant but you're clearly not listening. I don't care if you're only 'joking' - I don't find it funny. I'm off home so I don't have to listen to any more of your stupid, insensitive bullshit'.
That should do it (possibly permanently).

Sage advice!

whilst I think being upfront about the IVF may quieten her, I very much think she needs to be told to quit it and in no way does she deserve to know. If she can’t follow a simple request made multiple times she doesn’t deserve your company.

I very much hope you are home now

MerrilyOnhigh · 23/12/2024 21:31

Or you could try the faux-concerned "MiL, you seem to have a major obsession about this. Have you seen a doctor? You really should, it's just not normal"

MerrilyOnhigh · 23/12/2024 21:27

Tell her you've decided not to have any more children, and that it's not up for discussion. Then if or when you do get pregnant, don't say anything till it's really obvious, and then tell her it's accidental.

BeTaupeBear · 23/12/2024 21:25

Liverpool52 · 23/12/2024 20:30

@Onceuponatime9 are you on Gransnet by any chance? There was a truly chilling thread on there earlier this year where a MIL was complaining about the fact her DIL wouldn't tell her why she'd been to the doctor whilst pregnant. The general consensus was that, in support of the MIL, once a woman was pregnant the future grandparents were entitled to know her medical information because she was carrying their grandchild.

Proper Handmaid's Tale stuff. Really grim.

God that’s truly vile
Probably the same grans who demand alone time and criticise all your parenting choices

Grammarnut · 23/12/2024 21:17

Mamasperspective · 23/12/2024 21:08

"Actually MIL I've decided to get sterilised. I wasn't going to but your constant comments and jokes were really getting me down so we have decided no more kids on the cards for us because it's made us just not want another one"

that should shut her up

Permanently, I should think.

Tomorrowillbeachicken · 23/12/2024 21:15

I’d be packing myself up and the toddler and leaving your partner there. Let him grow a spine on the way home.

MsNeis · 23/12/2024 21:14

Oh, OP, what an awful situation! Of course YANBU: leave, yes! You don't have to be confrontational about it this time, if you don't want to. The goal is to protect yourself. Maybe you can say you are not feeling well (it wouldn't be a lie either 😒).
Unfortunately, I don't think your MIL is a reasonable person, so you can insist but she'll go on being inmature and disrespectful.
For future occasions, consider being more firm with her: "if you want us to keep visiting, stop your banter with this topic or else we'll leave", and then do it. You don't have to explain anything you don't want to. It's obvious to anybody that those comments are offensive.

GettingStuffed · 23/12/2024 21:11

Tell her that you're having problems conceiving due to her son's low sperms count.

LondonFox · 23/12/2024 21:10

mariannnnaa · 23/12/2024 12:59

How would you go nuclear on them?

He's said numerous times and it's not worked, she denies doing anything wrong. She says it's just friendly banter and she isn't pressuring, she's just trying to guess. When we ask her not to guess she kind of says ok, stops for a day or so and then does it again

People who are so happy to "have no filter" need a strong reminder how horrible is to face someone with no filter.

Just go totally feral at her.
Scream at her face in front as many people you can how idiotic her comments are.
Say no to future dinners.
Wait for her to beg you to see that grandchild you managed to have despite odds.
Remind her of horrible comments she made.
Wait for another appology.
Atend for a quick get to if you feel like it.
If she makes idiotic comments just rinse and repeat the whole thing each step.

Once you get tires send a whitch to a coven she belongs and enjoy your life.
You are a human person, not a breeding mare.

Mamasperspective · 23/12/2024 21:08

"Actually MIL I've decided to get sterilised. I wasn't going to but your constant comments and jokes were really getting me down so we have decided no more kids on the cards for us because it's made us just not want another one"

that should shut her up

C8H10N4O2 · 23/12/2024 21:08

Onceuponatime9 · 23/12/2024 19:56

Sorry your going through this OP,your mil comments are awful. If I can add anything to what's already been said it would be hiding the fact you are going through fertility problems & IVF is wrong. Your mil despite her behaviour deserves to know this. Her comments can't be excused but your not giving her the chance to react with more empathy if your hiding the problem from her. It's your DH problem too & his mother has as much of a right to know the truth as your mother.

Many people who stop stressing about getting pregnant fall pregnant more easily.An example is a friend who went through years of infertility & IVF with no success.She adopted a beautiful boy then within 6 months she fell pregnant naturally & gave birth to a baby girl.

No its absolutely none of the MiL's business.

Nobody has a right to anyone else's private medical information, least of all when they won't STFU abaout the subject.

PreferMyAnimals · 23/12/2024 20:53

mariannnnaa · 23/12/2024 13:11

I think I am leaving.
But what exactly do I say without actually saying "we have infertility". I don't want to give that away as I feel it would make everything worse and to me, I'd prefer to keep this private, very very few people know (my parents, my best friend).

I know it's popular advice on MN but this would not make DH go NC with his parents. They will still be in our lives. And I understand that, they might be crappy ones but they're his parents.

Just to add, I kind of misrepresented it in my original post by accident. It's not always us visiting. Sometimes they visit us during the year (not for Xmas, Xmas we are always either at my parents or his).

You don't need to mention you are dealing with fertility issues at all. What she is saying is unacceptable even if you weren't. I would probably say, "One more comment hinting at pregnancy and we're leaving," then do it. Better yet, DH should say it.

DreamTheMoors · 23/12/2024 20:49

Your medical issues are none of her never mind. You owe her no explanation.
You could warn her: “One more pregnancy crack and we’re leaving. ONE MORE.
And then leave the minute she cracks another one.
There are people in this world who cannot comprehend that their behaviour is abhorrent, until you prove to them that it is.

1011y · 23/12/2024 20:45

This is a boundaries problem - had it with my own MIL but it is also a husband problem too. Falls to his inability to set healthy boundaries with his own mother and thus is then in turn affecting you.

He needs to set boundaries with her, and if they are not respected then he leaves with his family. Setting a clear message that you are a team, and she needs to respect the family (your little family).

She will get the message if he sets boundaries and keeps them. It’s taken me 5 years to get my husband to do it but now everybody’s happier because there are clear boundaries that are respected. Once telling her should have been enough, if I was you I would pack up and go. Enjoy Christmas with your little one.

Elizo · 23/12/2024 20:41

mariannnnaa · 23/12/2024 12:54

We’ve got secondary infertility, and our toddler is our only child right now. Because both sets of parents live far away from us and each other, we take turns spending Christmas with them, staying about a week each time. This year, it’s my in-laws’ turn.

The issue is my MIL. She’s desperate to be a grandma again and has always been pushy about it. When I was pregnant with my toddler, she was annoyed we waited until 10 weeks to tell her (instead of immediately). DH and I held off because we knew that, if something went wrong, she’d be the least supportive person. She has no filter and often says things that are thoughtless or hurtful.

We’re currently doing IVF, but the in-laws don’t know. MIL would make it so much worse with her comments. She’s already said things to DH’s cousin like, “When are you finally going to get pregnant?” when they were having IVF, and when she heard about their miscarriage, her reaction was, “Oh, what a shame! I was really looking forward to baby cuddles this autumn.”

Whenever we visit, she won’t stop with the constant “jokey” questions. She’ll say things like, “Can I offer you some wine? Hahaha!” Or if we’re discussing lunch places, it’s, “Sushi? Marianna, SUSHI? What do you think?” with a smug little laugh. If I’m not hungry, it’s, “Ooh, not much appetite? Ginger helped me every time I was, you know, a little queasy…” It’s relentless.

Today, we went to a fair, and just before I got on a ride with my toddler, she pointed to a sign about pregnant women avoiding it and asked, “You’re still going on?” When I nodded, she added, “Guess no grandchild by summer, then!”

DH has already spoken to her and told her to stop. He didn’t mention IVF, but he said her comments are unhelpful and stressful. She just brushes it off with, “Oh, I’m not pressuring anyone! I’m just excited for when it happens.”

Honestly, I’ve had enough. As soon as my toddler wakes up from their nap, I want to leave. I can’t face another sly remark, like, “Want some ice cream? Don’t worry, it’s pasteurised!” I had a miscarriage earlier this year, and IVF is already stressful enough without all of this on top, especially at Christmas. I’d rather spend it alone with my child than pretend I’m fine while trying not to cry every five minutes.

Can you take her to one side and tell her directly this has to stop. She doesn’t mean it like that, but it is making you feel upset/ stressed etc. If she carries on leave early and DH tells her why

whathaveiforgotten · 23/12/2024 20:41

@Onceuponatime9

I also pride myself in being a natural supporter of anyone who shares their problems & they do.

Ok that's you, but OP's mother in law said, to a woman who had miscarried a much wanted baby, "Oh, what a shame! I was really looking forward to baby cuddles this autumn.”

So why on earth do you think that someone capable of such a selfish, thoughtless and cruel comment is someone empathetic enough to navigate OP's current situation in a supportive and kind way?

Liverpool52 · 23/12/2024 20:37

@Onceuponatime9 that's your prerogative. Why is the Op wrong for not wanting to share private medical information?

Onceuponatime9 · 23/12/2024 20:34

Liverpool52 · 23/12/2024 20:30

@Onceuponatime9 are you on Gransnet by any chance? There was a truly chilling thread on there earlier this year where a MIL was complaining about the fact her DIL wouldn't tell her why she'd been to the doctor whilst pregnant. The general consensus was that, in support of the MIL, once a woman was pregnant the future grandparents were entitled to know her medical information because she was carrying their grandchild.

Proper Handmaid's Tale stuff. Really grim.

No I am not on gransnet. I am a natural sharer though & see nothing wrong with that if it gives people a better understanding of my issues if & when they occur. I also pride myself in being a natural supporter of anyone who shares their problems & they do.

whathaveiforgotten · 23/12/2024 20:30

@Onceuponatime9

Your mil despite her behaviour deserves to know this. Her comment can't be excused but your not giving her the chance to react with more empathy if your hiding the problem from her.

Firstly she doesn't deserve that information.

And secondly, she had the chance to react with empathy when told her niece had a miscarriage of a much wanted baby.

But she wasn't empathetic or kind, was she? She said "Oh, what a shame! I was really looking forward to baby cuddles this autumn.”

Which I'm sure you can agree is a fucking horrible thing to say. I don't know how her niece could even bear to look at her after she said it, that poor poor woman.

Why do you think she would show empathy when she has a history of not doing so?

Liverpool52 · 23/12/2024 20:30

@Onceuponatime9 are you on Gransnet by any chance? There was a truly chilling thread on there earlier this year where a MIL was complaining about the fact her DIL wouldn't tell her why she'd been to the doctor whilst pregnant. The general consensus was that, in support of the MIL, once a woman was pregnant the future grandparents were entitled to know her medical information because she was carrying their grandchild.

Proper Handmaid's Tale stuff. Really grim.

LongDarkTeatime · 23/12/2024 20:28

Can you use a MN classic comeback
”You’ve been asked not to go there, so did you ask by mistake or are you being unkind?”

oopsupsideyourheadisayoopsupsideypurhead · 23/12/2024 20:23

Your husband needs to say he's got erectile dysfunction so there won't be any more DC.

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