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I don’t want my in laws to hold my baby, AIBU

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QuestioningThings1 · 23/12/2024 10:48

We met DHs family at the pub yesterday for Christmas drinks. I passed our 4month old over to DH while I took DD1 to the toilet, when I came back DD2 was being held by SIL. She had my baby right in front of her face so they weren’t kissing but sharing breath and I could have cried on the spot. I didn’t want to make a scene because no one was unwell and baby was happy but DH knows how I feel about germs. I’ve been extra paranoid lately as everyone is getting the flu and saying it’s the worst they’ve ever had it they’ve been bed bound etc. Then we get baby back and then DH is stood up with baby asking others if they want to hold her. MIL had her next at which point baby started crying, thank god I thought while saying I’ll take her back now thank you and I kept hold of her until we went. But again she was very close to her face. I had her on my knee in conversation with DH while his auntie spoke to baby and then when I looked she had her fingers in my babies mouth!! I quickly moved her away and said oh she’s teething and took her away at which point I said to DH I want to go home now. We’d been there 2 hours anyway and I was on the verge of tears at this point. We got home and I couldn’t sleep my heart was beating fast and it still is this morning. I feel so so guilty about not being able to say in front of everyone I don’t want my baby being passed round or not being able to say what the fuck are you doing putting your dirty hands in my babies mouth. I get DH just wants his family to bond with our kids but up until 6 months ago they have not been arsed with our kids and DD1 is 3. We see them for an hour once every 3 weeks. I fell out with DH as soon as we got home because I was so stressed and anxious and he knows how I feel about playing pass the parcel with the baby and I was stressed about the hands in the mouth thing so I guess I took that out on him as well even though that was my fault for not watching.

He said I do it with my family (play pass the parcel) but I don’t. If I need a wee or need to sort DD1 out I say to my family can you hold her while I do x, y or z. Both of my sister have just had babies and if I want a cuddle we will swap. I never walk into a room and say who wants a hold, I will always try and keep her with me when I can because I’m mum and I want her with me. Also with my family I can and do tell them often. ‘Don’t get too close to her face when you’re holding her’, ‘I can smell smoke on you so no sorry’ ‘Don’t kiss her thanks’ ‘Don’t put your hands in her mouth’. I have a very close relationship with my mum and sisters and they know my boundaries and I’m very comfortable to remind them if they forget. I don’t have that same relationship with my in laws, neither does DH. We have a lot of history of them not respecting boundaries and talking behind our backs because we’ve set boundaries and the last time we met up my FIL was coughing into his hands then holding my babies hand. My baby sucks her thumb so I had to take her to the toilets and wash her tiny hands and got upset after just in case anything passed. But again nothing was said to him, my fault again. I know if I say something it will probably jeopardise DHs relationship with his family and they’ve only just started making half an effort with him again.

I don’t know whether I’m just really hormonal still because my body feels like it’s going through a lot at this stage my skin has gone bad my hair is falling out but I don’t trust his family or feel comfortable when they hold my baby.

Am I being unreasonable for not wanting my in laws to hold my baby?!

If they asked to have a hold I think I’d feel differently but It’s always DH asking them

OP posts:
DadJoke · 23/12/2024 12:25

QuestioningThings1 · 23/12/2024 11:34

Oh god. I’ve only read the first page of comments and I’m an emotional wreck. I have always known I’ve had anxiety but never diagnosed or been to the doctors about it. I think it’s time I called the GP. :( I feel sick now and worried I’ve messed everything up.

i was never bothered about germs pre covid times. My older DD goes to nursery and always picks things up but I’ve always tried to avoid getting unwell where possible outside of the daily routines. We go to soft plays, events for children, play dates etc but I do always ask anyone we plan to meet up with if they’re all well.

I’m going to ring the Doctors and see if I can get some support

It's great that for once on MN, you've asked if you are being unreasonable, and accepted the response. Anxiety can make life very difficult - addressing it is the right thing to do.

Nothatgingerpirate · 23/12/2024 12:23

Yes, you are being unreasonable.
Unless you and your baby want to live as recluses, nothing wrong with that, it won't work.

Oldrunner · 23/12/2024 12:23

I really feel for you OP, you poor soul. And you haven't "messed everything up". Your stance comes from a place of love and caring for your baby. Yes ,your Anxiety levels are too high and it's impacting on your health so great that you are seeking advice- for your own peace of mind and health. Online advice might also be helpful.Living with severe anxiety levels is horrible and exhausting.But it's understandable that people are more anxious after covid so please don't blame yourself.
But I also think that your inlaws need to respect your boundaries. And I'd have been raging if anyone put their fingers in my babies mouths . Perhaps a message from both your husband and yourself just laying down boundaries to both sets of family then no one being singled out. Maybe even explain your anxiety and fact gp involved if you feel able to share? Totally understandable if you don't want to share this info .
Be kind to yourself
Hope you manage to have a lovely christmas

Zingy123 · 23/12/2024 12:21

Your behaviour is very abnormal. I loved passing my babies around family.

Mischance · 23/12/2024 12:20

I am sorry to say this, but the problem is yours. It would be good to try and find a way of dealing with this, as it will impinge on your children's well-being as time goes by. I am sure you would like them to grow up without inheriting this anxiety.

Good luck with trying to sort this.

SummerSnowstorm · 23/12/2024 12:20

You are being unreasonable, but it's not uncommon. It's natural instincts which are there to protect the baby, and sometimes it kicks in stronger than for others.
It should settle down over the next couple of months, try to pick what you voice such as fingers in mouth as a priority so the actual issues are taken more seriously than if you're voicing all the feelings.

ballyhoomara · 23/12/2024 12:19

I was gob snakes when i read you were not a first time mum- see if you can find any anxiety meditation to help and don't be afraid to take chemical support from to doctor. It's all irrational and you need to learn to chill around your in laws for the sake of your baby and your marriage - I couldn't tolerate it

Barryplopper · 23/12/2024 12:18

Get help. Yes yabu

Greysonsgrowler · 23/12/2024 12:18

I feel for you OP. I was like this (still am a bit). One time I couldn’t sleep for two nights after some random touched my baby’s hands in public when there was a swathe of D&V going around (and I had a baby that did a lot of gnashing their own fists). I actually did try to seek help, because I was so consumed with the idea of my baby getting germs/virus’ and getting sick and possibly dying I was anxious all the time, it was exhausting. It was taking the joy out of having my new baby and introducing them to the world and our family. I was however told “this is perfectly normal, all mothers feel like this” but I don’t think it is, and this thread proves it.

In therapy years later it’s come out that these feelings are probably part of something deeper.

I know some posters have been a bit unkind pointing out that your feelings are a bit out of the norm, but I think unless you’ve experienced this level of anxiety and fear around germs, it’s hard to understand and people have no idea how distressing it is. Your whole body gets involved in some kind of fight/flight reaction. It’s not voluntary it’s not a ‘choice’ you aren’t being selfish or a dick etc it’s an actual illness where your brain is in hyperdrive and hypersensitivity to threat to your baby. People looking outside in just see the ‘behaviour’ they don’t see the pain and fear underneath.

Go see your GP. Ask to be referred for support. Your HV might be able to help and IAPT services offer CBT which can be helpful for this kind of anxiety. Long term though, you might find (like I did) there’s some deeper stuff under the rug that’s triggered this anxiety and you need to deal with that too if it exists.

Beeloux · 23/12/2024 12:18

I don’t blame you OP, I’ve seen far too many dirty bastards not wash their hands in washrooms. No way would I want someone’s fingers in my newborns mouth.

My first had bronchiolitis as a newborn and I was very careful from then on to avoid ill people around him, same when ds2 was a newborn.

Also no shoes on in the house where baby is crawling and when they were newborns, used to asked people to wash hands or sanitise before holding them.

TenLittleLadybirds · 23/12/2024 12:18

@CreakingAlong it's good to have a psychiatrist's opinion here and I definitely respect you would know a lot better than I do.

Oioisavaloy27 · 23/12/2024 12:17

You play pass the parcel with your own family but your oh's family are not allowed, I really feel for your oh.

GivingYourHeadAWobble · 23/12/2024 12:16

Rowen32 · 23/12/2024 12:09

She's talking sense. A baby doesn't need to be passed around a room.

She's talking shite.

A few relatives held the baby.

You're trying to make sound like she was passed around the whole pub 🙄

Hufflemuff · 23/12/2024 12:16

QuestioningThings1 · 23/12/2024 11:34

Oh god. I’ve only read the first page of comments and I’m an emotional wreck. I have always known I’ve had anxiety but never diagnosed or been to the doctors about it. I think it’s time I called the GP. :( I feel sick now and worried I’ve messed everything up.

i was never bothered about germs pre covid times. My older DD goes to nursery and always picks things up but I’ve always tried to avoid getting unwell where possible outside of the daily routines. We go to soft plays, events for children, play dates etc but I do always ask anyone we plan to meet up with if they’re all well.

I’m going to ring the Doctors and see if I can get some support

Well done OP, its nice to see that the comments have been taken to heart and you will take some advice, many people would just be in denial and reject the comments.

NameChanges123 · 23/12/2024 12:16

"Am I being unreasonable for not wanting my in laws to hold my baby?!"

Yes you are.

Do you feel like this when your family hold your baby?

CocoPlum · 23/12/2024 12:15

QuestioningThings1 · 23/12/2024 11:34

Oh god. I’ve only read the first page of comments and I’m an emotional wreck. I have always known I’ve had anxiety but never diagnosed or been to the doctors about it. I think it’s time I called the GP. :( I feel sick now and worried I’ve messed everything up.

i was never bothered about germs pre covid times. My older DD goes to nursery and always picks things up but I’ve always tried to avoid getting unwell where possible outside of the daily routines. We go to soft plays, events for children, play dates etc but I do always ask anyone we plan to meet up with if they’re all well.

I’m going to ring the Doctors and see if I can get some support

Oh bless you OP.

You have not messed up.

But I do agree that your anxiety is too high, especially with a 4mo who has a sibling in nursery - baby is probably exposed to way worse on a daily basis by her!

Good luck getting help - if you are BF sertraline is a godsend - and enjoy Christmas with your 3yo and new baby!

CreakingAlong · 23/12/2024 12:15

TenLittleLadybirds · 23/12/2024 12:04

My opinion is different to the majority of replies so far. I'm a doctor (well, I was until I had my son) and I felt the exact same way when my son was a baby.

I think if you're anxious and panicking about less common or catastrophic things eg a car crash, child dying etc then that would definitely be post natal anxiety and I'd suggest you need help.

But not wanting your young baby to be passed around sucking fingers during December is completely reasonable to me. Hospitals are FULL of flu, noro, covid etc. Relatives wouldn't be worried about a baby catching a cold or flu because they're not the ones up at 2am dealing with a crying baby with a fever or pain. Babies catch viruses and that's normal but it's shit and can often be avoided or at least reduce the frequency of illness by sensible measures such as not putting fingers in mouth. That's gross in my opinion, I wouldn't want anyone's fingers in my mouth 🤷🏻‍♀️

At the end of the day you're the mum, if your DH is the one who's going to be looking after the baby at night when they're poorly then he can by all means pass the baby around like an object

I too am a doctor. A consultant psychiatrist of many years.

This: I was on the verge of tears at this point. We got home and I couldn’t sleep my heart was beating fast and it still is this morning is not a normal reaction to the events in the pub.

Nobody is saying that the fingers in mouth thing is fine. It’s horrid. But the reaction of the OP to the baby ‘sharing breath’ with her aunt is extreme. She is catastrophising and anxious. Possible postnatal anxiety.

Fortunately the OP can see this and is reaching out for help. Hopefully she can be referred to a perinatal MH team for assessment and support. There may be stuff that went on in pg that made the OP anxious, and that needs unpicking by specialists to ensure that she and the baby are ok.

SmallWorldMum · 23/12/2024 12:12

TenLittleLadybirds · 23/12/2024 12:04

My opinion is different to the majority of replies so far. I'm a doctor (well, I was until I had my son) and I felt the exact same way when my son was a baby.

I think if you're anxious and panicking about less common or catastrophic things eg a car crash, child dying etc then that would definitely be post natal anxiety and I'd suggest you need help.

But not wanting your young baby to be passed around sucking fingers during December is completely reasonable to me. Hospitals are FULL of flu, noro, covid etc. Relatives wouldn't be worried about a baby catching a cold or flu because they're not the ones up at 2am dealing with a crying baby with a fever or pain. Babies catch viruses and that's normal but it's shit and can often be avoided or at least reduce the frequency of illness by sensible measures such as not putting fingers in mouth. That's gross in my opinion, I wouldn't want anyone's fingers in my mouth 🤷🏻‍♀️

At the end of the day you're the mum, if your DH is the one who's going to be looking after the baby at night when they're poorly then he can by all means pass the baby around like an object

This! Well said. Couldn't agree more 👏 👌

usernother · 23/12/2024 12:12

You took your baby out to a pub so you can't be that worried about germs.

Rowen32 · 23/12/2024 12:12

Has everybody missed the part where these in laws couldn't give two hoots until recently and OP's first child is 3 but now are all about the baby, for heavens sake stop with the diagnosing of anxiety and pnd. Yes, she's having a bad moment but these people have suddenly come back into her life, she's not comfortable with them to set appropriate boundaries and they've pretty much ignored her first child, naturally she doesn't want them all over her baby.

BIossomtoes · 23/12/2024 12:12

Rowen32 · 23/12/2024 12:09

She's talking sense. A baby doesn't need to be passed around a room.

Lots of things that are part of everyday life don’t need to be done. There’s no harm in a perfectly healthy grandparent or aunt holding a baby and the effect on OP isn’t normal or healthy.

LBFseBrom · 23/12/2024 12:12

I agree, I hope this passes, op, but if not, please do seek help.
There is nothing wrong with what your sister-in-law did. Your baby is going to come across lots of germs and I would think a pub would be full of them anyway.

gamerchick · 23/12/2024 12:10

Ughn0tryte · 23/12/2024 11:12

It's very odd how they waited until you had left your baby unattended/with DH to pounce on them.
It's not their baby, you decide what works for you. Your DH should be protecting the space of you and baby. Not advocating for others regardless of who they are.
You are doing what feels natural. It's very healthy. It's just not common. Suggest a no-one to hold the baby rule until the baby can talk. Then the baby can say if they want to be held.

Are .. you one of the ones who sued their parents for not asking your permission to be born?

KeeKees · 23/12/2024 12:10

Yeah you are being ridiculous.

Rowen32 · 23/12/2024 12:09

GivingYourHeadAWobble · 23/12/2024 12:08

'Object'? Hmm

I'm glad you're not my bloody doctor.

Everyone has said the sucking of fingers was disgusting, but no-one passes a much love family baby around like an 'object'.

FFS you sound almost as bad as the OP but at least she has a reason, having only given birth 4 months ago.

AND she's going to get help for her issues.

She's talking sense. A baby doesn't need to be passed around a room.