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I don’t want my in laws to hold my baby, AIBU

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QuestioningThings1 · 23/12/2024 10:48

We met DHs family at the pub yesterday for Christmas drinks. I passed our 4month old over to DH while I took DD1 to the toilet, when I came back DD2 was being held by SIL. She had my baby right in front of her face so they weren’t kissing but sharing breath and I could have cried on the spot. I didn’t want to make a scene because no one was unwell and baby was happy but DH knows how I feel about germs. I’ve been extra paranoid lately as everyone is getting the flu and saying it’s the worst they’ve ever had it they’ve been bed bound etc. Then we get baby back and then DH is stood up with baby asking others if they want to hold her. MIL had her next at which point baby started crying, thank god I thought while saying I’ll take her back now thank you and I kept hold of her until we went. But again she was very close to her face. I had her on my knee in conversation with DH while his auntie spoke to baby and then when I looked she had her fingers in my babies mouth!! I quickly moved her away and said oh she’s teething and took her away at which point I said to DH I want to go home now. We’d been there 2 hours anyway and I was on the verge of tears at this point. We got home and I couldn’t sleep my heart was beating fast and it still is this morning. I feel so so guilty about not being able to say in front of everyone I don’t want my baby being passed round or not being able to say what the fuck are you doing putting your dirty hands in my babies mouth. I get DH just wants his family to bond with our kids but up until 6 months ago they have not been arsed with our kids and DD1 is 3. We see them for an hour once every 3 weeks. I fell out with DH as soon as we got home because I was so stressed and anxious and he knows how I feel about playing pass the parcel with the baby and I was stressed about the hands in the mouth thing so I guess I took that out on him as well even though that was my fault for not watching.

He said I do it with my family (play pass the parcel) but I don’t. If I need a wee or need to sort DD1 out I say to my family can you hold her while I do x, y or z. Both of my sister have just had babies and if I want a cuddle we will swap. I never walk into a room and say who wants a hold, I will always try and keep her with me when I can because I’m mum and I want her with me. Also with my family I can and do tell them often. ‘Don’t get too close to her face when you’re holding her’, ‘I can smell smoke on you so no sorry’ ‘Don’t kiss her thanks’ ‘Don’t put your hands in her mouth’. I have a very close relationship with my mum and sisters and they know my boundaries and I’m very comfortable to remind them if they forget. I don’t have that same relationship with my in laws, neither does DH. We have a lot of history of them not respecting boundaries and talking behind our backs because we’ve set boundaries and the last time we met up my FIL was coughing into his hands then holding my babies hand. My baby sucks her thumb so I had to take her to the toilets and wash her tiny hands and got upset after just in case anything passed. But again nothing was said to him, my fault again. I know if I say something it will probably jeopardise DHs relationship with his family and they’ve only just started making half an effort with him again.

I don’t know whether I’m just really hormonal still because my body feels like it’s going through a lot at this stage my skin has gone bad my hair is falling out but I don’t trust his family or feel comfortable when they hold my baby.

Am I being unreasonable for not wanting my in laws to hold my baby?!

If they asked to have a hold I think I’d feel differently but It’s always DH asking them

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Goodtogossip · 14/01/2025 13:34

You say 'MY baby' a lot in your post. It's your DH baby too I'm assuming so he'll want his family involved just as much as you do yours. You need to speak up to his family if something upsets you. As long as it's reasonable, like asking them not to put their fingers in baby's mouth then you're not being a drama queen. If your husbands family are only just getting back on track with him then it's obvious he wants to please them by including them in his new happiness & asking them to hold his baby is part of that. Unless you feel your baby is in danger I'd try not to stress the little things, like breathing too close etc (unless they smoke or are blatantly ill). Try & relax a bit but speak up if you feel they're being out of order or putting baby in danger.

CocoPlum · 27/12/2024 15:55

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 24/12/2024 10:05

I think you are feeling very fragile post birth and its good that you are seeing your GP.
Knowing your anxiety, your DH could have been more helpful, instead of forcing the situation.
I remember bringing my new baby into work (a long time ago now) and my boss put the baby's dummy in his mouth to get a laugh ( he'd had cold sores in the past) and then tried to put it back in the baby's mouth. So I do understand how you feel.

Your family seem to understand and respect your boundaries, but it seems you feel very uncomfortable with DH's family it probably didn't happen overnight so it may help you to work out why you feel like that and ways to deal with it.
If you do get some GP help, they may give you some help with navigating these situations and being able to speak up without worrying that it's going to cause a drama. That may help with the anxiety. Being a mum does make you naturally more assertive as you advocate for your children, so you will get there.

Is there anyone else in DH family that you do feel you trust a bit more?.. Could you talk to them and ask them to help, by holding the baby for you if you need to go to the loo, but understanding that you don't want people slobbering all over the baby or sticking their blooming fingers in its mouth? That's not actually that much to ask really. They might respond well to being asked for help if you ask in the right way.

You have had some tough comments on here but you feel what you feel. You've acknowledged it and now you can work out how to deal with it and what help you need. It can be a lot, dealing with a small baby and a toddler and it takes a bit of getting used to whilst you all get into your routines but you will get there.

These are early (often sleepless days) and it affects everyone differently.
In the meantime, lean on your family, they sound great. Perhaps your mum will have some words of advice. It won't always feel like this, you will feel more confident with a bit of positive encouragement (hello DH!!!) rather than guilt tripping.
Dont worry about all the prophecies of what might happen 3 years ahead if you don't "fix" yourself. Just take things one day at a time. etc.. your toddler will be helping to boost baby's immunity naturally anyway. You won't always be around loads of relatives after Christmas and you can take things at your own pace, as you grow more comfortable. It will be OK!

If your hair is falling out, that sounds like you are run down and so you might want a blood test for vitamin deficiency post preg and some advice on that. Be KIND to yourself, your priority at the moment is your small family and that means looking after yourself first too.

Edited

It's a good idea to get levels tested but also 4 months post birth is peak hair-falling-out time, as it returns to its normal prepregnancy state!

Ladyingreen999 · 26/12/2024 19:56

I don't agree with the holding the baby thing, but the person sticking their fingers in baby's mouth was gross. If you don't feel comfortable with certain things, you could just pick her up/stand up with her in an assertive way every time they cross your boundary, they should get the message but won't be able to say much about it as technically it could be a coincidence - you just needed to stretch your legs!

BIossomtoes · 26/12/2024 15:45

NovemberMorn · 26/12/2024 12:12

I didn't mention newborn.

You said new mother which kind of implies it.

NovemberMorn · 26/12/2024 12:12

BIossomtoes · 25/12/2024 12:56

It’s not a newborn, the baby is four months old. Neither is it a firstborn. A baby being held by its granny and aunt is entirely normal.

I didn't mention newborn.

Blanketssese · 25/12/2024 18:38

OP, I don't have health anxiety and there is no way i would be near a pub with a baby.

Infact none of my children were ever near pubs.
Its the middle of winter and your baby is small, perfectly normal to be careful with a new immune system.

I avoided big shopping centre's too.
Not a chance I would bring a baby into a pub with crowds.

TenLittleLadybirds · 25/12/2024 18:26

Interesting re Switzerland. My ex FIL is an obstetrician in Germany and his advice was exactly the same - insisting that people must wash their hands before holding the baby.

Nantescalling · 25/12/2024 18:15

I have only read 1 page of comments where you have been told to see a shrunk and that your worrues are unfounded. I had a baby in Switwerkand which is porobably the cleanest place in the world - I think. On the instructions of the clinic nobody but NOBODY could touch the baby without first washing their hands and draping a large clean towel from their shoulders to their hips. As the clinic said, the people may think they are spotless but imagine they have a dog whi sitsin the back of the car and sloberson the seat rest. Then they heave themselves out using same seat rest. The clinic said it was up to us to decide but they suggested doing this for the first 6 months. If we had had a guilloting in my Mum's house,it would have been going night and day but to give an idea, if my baby dropped her dummy, my Mum would pickitup and suck it ...............................

peachystormy · 25/12/2024 18:04

Your being OTT and from the other pov I haven't held some of my family due to their mother acting like this

Londonrach1 · 25/12/2024 15:54

Yabu. Your children are part of extended family. Your behaviour is ott unless your child has an immune problem. Were you the same with your first child.

fairytailcat · 25/12/2024 15:48

Sorry! You lost me at "Sharing breath"

Totally not normal my love

Rockstar1617 · 25/12/2024 15:23

Sorry hun but your 3 year old is going to pass more germs to your baby than any adult. Children are the main spreaders of infection.

BIossomtoes · 25/12/2024 12:56

NovemberMorn · 25/12/2024 11:53

Couldn't agree more.
Every new mother has anxieties about their babies, especially first borns.
It's normal, and making out this mother is desperately in need of help is ridiculous.
IF she still feels so protective around relatives when the baby is toddling, that would be a different matter, but for now, imo, she is simply wanting to keep her baby free from germs.

Incidentally, why do so many stupid people, apart from putting fingers in their mouths and slobbering over them, give babies a set of keys to play with? 🙄

It’s not a newborn, the baby is four months old. Neither is it a firstborn. A baby being held by its granny and aunt is entirely normal.

NovemberMorn · 25/12/2024 11:53

SparklingPinot · 24/12/2024 18:00

YANBU & I can’t quite believe the volume of posts that disagree with your POV. Fingers in the mouth is a hard no I would have been FUMING. Also pass the parcel with the baby was never for me & agree people putting their mouths too close to babies faces is rancid.

Couldn't agree more.
Every new mother has anxieties about their babies, especially first borns.
It's normal, and making out this mother is desperately in need of help is ridiculous.
IF she still feels so protective around relatives when the baby is toddling, that would be a different matter, but for now, imo, she is simply wanting to keep her baby free from germs.

Incidentally, why do so many stupid people, apart from putting fingers in their mouths and slobbering over them, give babies a set of keys to play with? 🙄

Snowangles · 25/12/2024 09:17

Yes it's his baby but I imagine if baby falls ill it will be op doing most of the caring.
My dh was more than amazing with our babies, he was amazing but a screaming crying sick baby who wanted mum is something he couldn't change

Dontwantanicknamethanks · 25/12/2024 09:17

QuestioningThings1 · 23/12/2024 11:34

Oh god. I’ve only read the first page of comments and I’m an emotional wreck. I have always known I’ve had anxiety but never diagnosed or been to the doctors about it. I think it’s time I called the GP. :( I feel sick now and worried I’ve messed everything up.

i was never bothered about germs pre covid times. My older DD goes to nursery and always picks things up but I’ve always tried to avoid getting unwell where possible outside of the daily routines. We go to soft plays, events for children, play dates etc but I do always ask anyone we plan to meet up with if they’re all well.

I’m going to ring the Doctors and see if I can get some support

yes, as you have said, get some help from your gp or health visitor. Keep trying if they don’t initially help enough - there are many levels of support and I dont think yours will be quick. Asking people if they are well before you meet up is also not in the norm, so you are clearly fixating your anxiety on germs and illness. Is there anything else that you try to control? If your baby is well, it’s normally better for them to be exposed as it builds a better immune system as they grow. Anyway, as people say, this is more about you than the children, DH or in-laws. You can beat this but you can’t do it alone and it will take you time. But don’t give up - you can develop resilience and find mental peace. Good luck.

stonejam · 25/12/2024 08:47

QuestioningThings1 · 23/12/2024 10:48

We met DHs family at the pub yesterday for Christmas drinks. I passed our 4month old over to DH while I took DD1 to the toilet, when I came back DD2 was being held by SIL. She had my baby right in front of her face so they weren’t kissing but sharing breath and I could have cried on the spot. I didn’t want to make a scene because no one was unwell and baby was happy but DH knows how I feel about germs. I’ve been extra paranoid lately as everyone is getting the flu and saying it’s the worst they’ve ever had it they’ve been bed bound etc. Then we get baby back and then DH is stood up with baby asking others if they want to hold her. MIL had her next at which point baby started crying, thank god I thought while saying I’ll take her back now thank you and I kept hold of her until we went. But again she was very close to her face. I had her on my knee in conversation with DH while his auntie spoke to baby and then when I looked she had her fingers in my babies mouth!! I quickly moved her away and said oh she’s teething and took her away at which point I said to DH I want to go home now. We’d been there 2 hours anyway and I was on the verge of tears at this point. We got home and I couldn’t sleep my heart was beating fast and it still is this morning. I feel so so guilty about not being able to say in front of everyone I don’t want my baby being passed round or not being able to say what the fuck are you doing putting your dirty hands in my babies mouth. I get DH just wants his family to bond with our kids but up until 6 months ago they have not been arsed with our kids and DD1 is 3. We see them for an hour once every 3 weeks. I fell out with DH as soon as we got home because I was so stressed and anxious and he knows how I feel about playing pass the parcel with the baby and I was stressed about the hands in the mouth thing so I guess I took that out on him as well even though that was my fault for not watching.

He said I do it with my family (play pass the parcel) but I don’t. If I need a wee or need to sort DD1 out I say to my family can you hold her while I do x, y or z. Both of my sister have just had babies and if I want a cuddle we will swap. I never walk into a room and say who wants a hold, I will always try and keep her with me when I can because I’m mum and I want her with me. Also with my family I can and do tell them often. ‘Don’t get too close to her face when you’re holding her’, ‘I can smell smoke on you so no sorry’ ‘Don’t kiss her thanks’ ‘Don’t put your hands in her mouth’. I have a very close relationship with my mum and sisters and they know my boundaries and I’m very comfortable to remind them if they forget. I don’t have that same relationship with my in laws, neither does DH. We have a lot of history of them not respecting boundaries and talking behind our backs because we’ve set boundaries and the last time we met up my FIL was coughing into his hands then holding my babies hand. My baby sucks her thumb so I had to take her to the toilets and wash her tiny hands and got upset after just in case anything passed. But again nothing was said to him, my fault again. I know if I say something it will probably jeopardise DHs relationship with his family and they’ve only just started making half an effort with him again.

I don’t know whether I’m just really hormonal still because my body feels like it’s going through a lot at this stage my skin has gone bad my hair is falling out but I don’t trust his family or feel comfortable when they hold my baby.

Am I being unreasonable for not wanting my in laws to hold my baby?!

If they asked to have a hold I think I’d feel differently but It’s always DH asking them

With all due respect you really some help and your behavior is dangerous to the sort of mentally and illogical fear you’ll pass on to your child

WhatMummyMakesSheEats · 25/12/2024 08:05

I think if the baby had been 4 weeks old then I’d have agreed with everything you said, though I probably wouldn’t have gone to a busy pub at that stage.

I think holding close to face at 4 months is fine. However sticking fingers in mouth, especially while out at a pub I’d not be ok with. Also you are completely not unreasonable to want your baby back when crying. I absolutely hate when people refuse to return a crying baby!!

having said that, I think the panicking afterwards does feel a bit like PPA! Especially is this is not your first child. Might be worth chatting to the GP

TeaAndTattoos · 25/12/2024 03:50

You need some serious help this all a YOU problem not a them problem there is nothing wrong with people wanting to hold and interact with your baby I think you need to stop being so hysterical over all this and see someone for your anxiety.

LouDeLou · 25/12/2024 01:20

Good Lord.

YABU.

TheEveningSun · 24/12/2024 23:16

But your DD1 brings all the germs home from the nursery, do you not let her touch the baby?
I cancel play dates if my or the other child has fever as I obviously want to avoid getting ill but cough or runny nose is just unavoidable in the nursery.
when my DC2 was 2 months old I saw my friend in her house, her 2yo was playing and sneezed on my DC few times. The next day my friend called to say that her 2yo had a chickenpox- very infectious! I was terrified my DC would get it but she didn’t.

Hannah55r · 24/12/2024 22:23

My eyes rolled reading this.
Your poor husband!! It's his baby too!! Jesus christ how does he cope?
Your kids will resent you for being overbearing- please speak to a GP

DisabledDemon · 24/12/2024 22:14

I don’t think you’re being unreasonable at all. This is how my husband ended up with the herpes virus, from an over enthusiastic aunty who had an active cold sore slobbering over him when he was young.

The flu virus this year is the worst one in ages and there are all sorts of other nasties in circulation. Keep your little one safe.

TheBluntTurtle · 24/12/2024 21:53

YABU OP - no one was ill and no one acted with the intent to harm your baby or make them ill. They just want to bond with them.

BIossomtoes · 24/12/2024 21:41

PamelaShipman80 · 24/12/2024 21:31

Nothing in particular, it just makes me feel very very uncomfortable. I hate the thought of my baby being passed round a group of people. Not enjoyable for the baby is it either, they just want their mum, and surely it’s the baby’s feelings that matter!

In my experience babies don’t care. Mine wanted my mum, not me. She was a baby whisperer.