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To Tell SIL To Stop Claiming Things?

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Addyview · 23/12/2024 04:03

I've been with DH a very long time and we have a child together, I get on well with his brother but his brothers wife is another story. She's nice enough most of the time but makes a lot of situations very awkward because of how tight she is. Whenever she comes round if I offer her something to eat she says things like "Yes, can you also wrap some up for me to take home" no matter what it is! There's a million examples I can give but she basically won't pay for anything and is always on the scrounge.
My husbands brother earns a lot of money and so does his wife so its not like they ever struggle, BIL says its just who she is and does try to stop her.
Anyway on Christmas they're coming for dinner but last year was so uncomfortable because she basically laid claim to everything she saw. Every present she saw me open she was asking if she could have it if I didn't like it or when I was fed up of it, she was pointing at things on the dinner table saying she'd take the leftovers home and telling other guests to not eat it all! It really got on my nerves by the end of the day.
She's coming this year and me and DH are both in agreement that we need to say she can't behave like that because it makes everyone else awkward but BIL has asked us to leave it alone and just ignore her because she gets embarrassed. I'm half tempted to just cancel BIL and his wife altogether if I'm honest.
I'm several years into this womans impolite behaviour and it's casting a bit of a dark cloud over Christmas because I'm dreading her making everyone else feel uncomfortable when she starts! So to me my two options are ring her in the morning and tell her to not behave that way or uninvite them both and tell BIL why. I simply cannot have another Christmas day like last years.

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oldmoaner · 25/12/2024 00:26

Lots of suggestions or you could just say, before you ask ive already done you a doggy bag to take home, now please let everyone enjoy their meals. As for presents say if theres anything i don't like I'll wrap it up for you next Christmas, save me paying money out. Plus id warn people beforehand about what shes like and say just ignore her.

NeshButUpNorth · 25/12/2024 00:19

Addyview · 23/12/2024 09:51

I think I've read everyone's replies so I'll answer you all here now I've woke back up. My reason for being awake so late is specifically down to SIL and the dread of her.

She's late 20s and grew up in a middle class family, no struggles but her parents are also pretty tight, nowhere near her level and her mum hates her own daughters behaviour from what I've seen.
In the past I have let her take food home because it was awkward to say no. I stopped inviting her round for coffee and a catch up because if I offered her a biscuit or a sandwich she'd ask for extra to take home and it was weird.
On Christmas I try to laugh it off and just say no when she asks for presents but it just goes further where she will then say its not my sort of thing and she'd get more out of it, I did get a little firmer by the end of the day last year but it didn't seem to deter her any. DH ate as much as he could when she asked people to not eat all of something she wanted so he could prove a point but again she would just push further.
Saying a firm no to this woman likely wouldn't do much and hasn't worked in the past. My other SIL called her a scrounger to her face once and she got upset but carried on once BIL argued back. I do think BIL doesn't see she cries a lot of crocodile tears so she doesn't have to stop this behaviour.
I don't think she has MH issues but I'm not a professional. She just gets a kick out of saving money, I've seen her stand and haggle in a charity shop, to me she has no shame in her.

I should have said no to them coming but I really like people coming. I'm NC with my own family and only my manager and his wife come that are my guests, the rest are DH family and friends.
I think today will be an awkward phone call to BIL to let him know it's either got to be addressed and her told no or they can't come. I know it's last minute to do this but the anxiety I get from the tension on Christmas day isn't worth all this.

I think it's worth considering using your manager being a guest to make your point. For example, "my manager from work will be there, so please don't do xyz, because they might think it's not normal"

From past experience, there is no way of avoiding causing offence in someone like this, but if you do it in advance, if they get mad they can cancel and not turn up, whereas doing it in person has a higher risk of an unpleasant scene in front of everyone else.

Minc · 24/12/2024 22:02

ZeldaStoleMyCrumpets · 24/12/2024 21:12

Yes, that’s a good idea with the OPs manager there isn’t it ?

It’s the only way

Ginburee · 24/12/2024 21:56

Please be honest I got trolled yesterday by commenting on a similar post (taking home the turkey roll).
This is worse and so incredibly rude, she needs to be pulled up.
Good luck OP and enjoy your food, gifts and day.

loveautum · 24/12/2024 21:49

Can you let us know what happens? Like someone said, I too thought it was someone much older and set in their ways

I can't believe she's embarrassed when pulled up about her behaviour otherwise the embarrassment would stop her even behaving like this. Sounds like she's alwaya been like this and interesting about her mum not liking it either.

Lovemeapickledgherkin · 24/12/2024 21:49

”she basically told us she would rather we didn't invite her than expect her to fork out any money for things she's not interested in.”

There’s your answer. Don’t invite this parasite to your house.

IdylicDay · 24/12/2024 21:36

I would never have her over, not even for a visit let alone Christmas. She seems proud of her greedy, selfish behaviour and sounds thoroughly nasty. What do you get out of having her there? And why did your husband ask them around without asking you? I'd cancel altogether, even at short notice. It might wake BIL enough to address the issue or get rid of her.

CyranoDeBergerQuack · 24/12/2024 21:34

Bodeganights · 24/12/2024 20:12

I get up for work at 5.15. It is never a reasonable time. I also did not know there were two 5 o'clocks in a day jk

An anologe clock will bexat 5.05 twice a day
Or has this gone completely over my head? I mean, Ive had a couple of Emva Cream sherries... 😀

DisabledDemon · 24/12/2024 21:31

Goodness me, I’d be strapping on my armour to go into battle with this one! She sounds like a right grabby cow.

Tapsthemic · 24/12/2024 21:25

Gah OP this sounds fully enraging. I have a wild suggestion which might be worth a shot?
Could you specifically allocate some leftovers to her? So it’s not a no, but a controlled yes, like I do with my toddler (I mean that in the nicest possibly way). Eg “Don’t worry SIL, I’ll pack up the leftover stuffing just for you”.

And then you can keep playing that card: “Don’t listen to SIL everyone, eat as much as you like, I’ve already set up her leftovers box”.

I don’t have any suggestions for the presents issue though - this is next level and I wish you luck!

Teddybear23 · 24/12/2024 21:19

OMG please don’t ever give her anything again unless it’s meant for her. If she asks for leftovers just say no, we’re having them tomorrow and don’t invite her out for meals again because she’s admitted she won’t pay.

HadEnoughOfThisPish · 24/12/2024 21:19

BIL has asked us to leave it alone and just ignore her because she gets embarrassed

Embarrassed? Sounds like you couldn't scorch that neck with a blow torch.

StrikeForever · 24/12/2024 21:14

It sounds horrendous @Addyview I agree that it/she needs confronting, so no, you are absolutely not being unreasonable.

I hope you let us know how it went in the end.

Numsmetposter · 24/12/2024 21:14

Everytime she asks for things to be wrapped up I'd say

"Oh no.. it's not that kind of restaurant im afraid".

When she starts hassling people for scraps... or anything

"Don't be a scab".

And repeat.

wayfairer · 24/12/2024 21:13

I would put some notices up.
No taking home left overs
No asking for gifts that are not yours
Post it notes everywhere

ZeldaStoleMyCrumpets · 24/12/2024 21:12

Minc · 24/12/2024 21:01

Every piece of food she lays claim to, pull the entire dish towards you and stuff it all into your mouth with your hands, maintaining blinkless eye contact with her the entire time.

Every gift she tries to grift, lick it all over; eye contact as above.

Repeat until she stops.

Yes, that’s a good idea with the OPs manager there isn’t it ?

JaneAustensHeroine · 24/12/2024 21:07

She’s a nightmare. I would tell her outright that she is rude and not invite her in future. Surely she has no friends with behaviour like that? Awful.

Minc · 24/12/2024 21:01

Every piece of food she lays claim to, pull the entire dish towards you and stuff it all into your mouth with your hands, maintaining blinkless eye contact with her the entire time.

Every gift she tries to grift, lick it all over; eye contact as above.

Repeat until she stops.

CoraPirbright · 24/12/2024 20:58

When she arrives, say “oh that’s a lovely coat SIL. Is it new? I think I will have that. And your skirt is nice too - I’ll have that as well. Do you want to step out of it now for me to take? You wont mind spending the day in your tights, will you?”

When she says “are you mad?” Then you can say - “right, well, let’s have none of this nonsense about other people’s presents and the food. You didnt pay for any of it and it will all either be in our guests stomachs or staying put here. OK?”

Might get the message across.

Laurmolonlabe · 24/12/2024 20:53

You should never give her any leftovers, make it clear to her when she arrives the food has been carefully planned and I will be using any that is left over. Be very firm if she makes a play for any presents as well, if your BIL is right and she gets embarrassed she'll get the message, if she doesn't then I'm afraid you need to uninvite her. your BIL sound supportive on the surface but he is enabling her, and making excuses hoping they won't be excluded.
Whether they struggle or are well off is not the point ,this is a psychological problem- you mustn't let her take anything as enabling her will just make her worse- and your life miserable. Your BIL and his wife need to agree not to do this if you are to keep inviting them.

HBiz · 24/12/2024 20:45

So you’ve been told not to call her out on her behaviour because she’d be embarrassed. Good, she should be embarassed. This behaviour isn’t acceptable - call it out each and every time

Danielle9891 · 24/12/2024 20:33

RampantIvy · 23/12/2024 05:51

"Please don't embarrass yourself by asking. The answer is no"

This is the best answer. I'd say it in front of everyone if she starts again.

Finetoday · 24/12/2024 20:32

1st reply nails it 💯!

Bodeganights · 24/12/2024 20:12

CyranoDeBergerQuack · 23/12/2024 06:11

5.05 is a perfectly reasonable time to be awake!

I get up for work at 5.15. It is never a reasonable time. I also did not know there were two 5 o'clocks in a day jk

Lavenderflower · 24/12/2024 20:11

I wonder if there is more to this? It sounds like she may a mental health condition or a trauma response. Perhaps your brother in law knows more than what you let on.