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To Tell SIL To Stop Claiming Things?

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Addyview · 23/12/2024 04:03

I've been with DH a very long time and we have a child together, I get on well with his brother but his brothers wife is another story. She's nice enough most of the time but makes a lot of situations very awkward because of how tight she is. Whenever she comes round if I offer her something to eat she says things like "Yes, can you also wrap some up for me to take home" no matter what it is! There's a million examples I can give but she basically won't pay for anything and is always on the scrounge.
My husbands brother earns a lot of money and so does his wife so its not like they ever struggle, BIL says its just who she is and does try to stop her.
Anyway on Christmas they're coming for dinner but last year was so uncomfortable because she basically laid claim to everything she saw. Every present she saw me open she was asking if she could have it if I didn't like it or when I was fed up of it, she was pointing at things on the dinner table saying she'd take the leftovers home and telling other guests to not eat it all! It really got on my nerves by the end of the day.
She's coming this year and me and DH are both in agreement that we need to say she can't behave like that because it makes everyone else awkward but BIL has asked us to leave it alone and just ignore her because she gets embarrassed. I'm half tempted to just cancel BIL and his wife altogether if I'm honest.
I'm several years into this womans impolite behaviour and it's casting a bit of a dark cloud over Christmas because I'm dreading her making everyone else feel uncomfortable when she starts! So to me my two options are ring her in the morning and tell her to not behave that way or uninvite them both and tell BIL why. I simply cannot have another Christmas day like last years.

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JudgeJ · 23/12/2024 20:08

TwigletsAndRadishes · 23/12/2024 17:07

DH are both in agreement that we need to say she can't behave like that because it makes everyone else awkward but BIL has asked us to leave it alone and just ignore her because she gets embarrassed.

So your DH has mentioned it to him in advance of them coming this Christmas and this was his response? Or is it something he's commented on in the past when you or DH have moaned about her?

*I'm half tempted to just cancel BIL and his wife altogether if I'm honest.
I'm several years into this womans impolite behaviour and it's casting a bit of a dark cloud over Christmas because I'm dreading her making everyone else feel uncomfortable when she starts! *

Well it's a bit late for that. You can't uninvite them now, that would be incredibly bad form. Also how the hell would you start to explain that? 'SIL we've been mulling it over and despite having a whole year to think about it, we've decided we don't like the way you behave at our house, so we are withdrawing the invitation of Christmas lunch at 2 days notice.' Hmm

So to me my two options are ring her in the morning and tell her to not behave that way or uninvite them both and tell BIL why. I simply cannot have another Christmas day like last years.

Option 1 is to shut her down the minute she starts, every single time. Be prepared for it and squash it the very second it starts, in the ways I described in my previous post.

Option 2 is get your DH to tell his brother in advance to tell her not to do it, because last year it pissed you off. If she still does it then revert to Option 1 and make a note not to invite them again. But you simply cannot uninvite them at this stage. That's very unreasonable.

Option 3 when she starts squirreling, and she will, show her the door.

TimeForATerf · 23/12/2024 19:38

VegTrug · 23/12/2024 16:05

Ah I see we have another “I’ve never witnessed this so therefore it can’t have happened”

Edited

Ah I see we have another gullible poster.

itsgettingweird · 23/12/2024 19:29

Brefugee · 23/12/2024 17:27

You can't uninvite them now, that would be incredibly bad form.

bollocks to that. of course you can. Bad form is what SiL does. TBH bad form was OPs DH inviting them again without making it clear this behaviour is to stop.

Spot on.

Not bad form to refuse rude guests attendance.

Especially when their form on attendance is bad!

PureBoggin · 23/12/2024 19:17

ZeldaStoleMyCrumpets · 23/12/2024 19:04

I bet if this kept happening to you you’d see it as more than a “minor inconvenience”

I really wouldn't. I would treat her with compassion and respect whilst maintaining clear boundaries. Like with a toddler or a puppy. It would be absolutely no skin off my nose to say no. If she told people in my home not to eat the food I was offering, it would be no skin off my nose to say "Ignore SIL and please eat as much as you can manage".

This is honestly such a non-issue. She isn't hurting anyone. She isn't stealing anything. She is annoying. But she doesn't live with OP. It's an occasional annoyance.

But like I said if OP struggles to cope with it then it is her right to stop seeing her.

JudgeJ · 23/12/2024 19:11

CarpetTroubles · 23/12/2024 16:28

Mental health issue? She’s just tight and greedy.

You're as wicked as I am, fun isn't it!!!!

diddl · 23/12/2024 19:07

but BIL has asked us to leave it alone

I think that that is reason enough to cancel tbh.

"we don't want to hear her begging for food & gifts & have to ignore it. Best you don't come"

xyz111 · 23/12/2024 19:06

You just need to be firm. No Janet you may not have my Xmas present, please stop asking. No Janet you cannot take leftovers home. Sounds like she needs to be embarrassed to make her stop!

MummyJ36 · 23/12/2024 19:05

What happens if you tell her no? Does she just take it anyway? Wonder what a firm “no that won’t be happening” repeated over and over would do? She only gets away with it because she is allowed to get away with it. It’s weird that she is shameless but also supposedly feels embarrassed? Embarrassed about what exactly? I would just stand firm and keep repeating the same line over and over with regards to food and leftovers.

With presents, I would honestly ignore her completely. Let the silence hang if she asks about taking your presents and then move on. Do not give it any attention whatsoever.

ZeldaStoleMyCrumpets · 23/12/2024 19:04

PureBoggin · 23/12/2024 19:01

You have tried everything and nothing has worked. Because this sounds like a compulsion. So your choices are to either see it as the minor inconvenience it is or to stop seeing her.

I'm uncomfortable with the amount of people telling OP to tell BIL to speak to his wife. Why? Why can't a grown woman talk to another grown woman about an issue she has with her?

I bet if this kept happening to you you’d see it as more than a “minor inconvenience”

PureBoggin · 23/12/2024 19:01

You have tried everything and nothing has worked. Because this sounds like a compulsion. So your choices are to either see it as the minor inconvenience it is or to stop seeing her.

I'm uncomfortable with the amount of people telling OP to tell BIL to speak to his wife. Why? Why can't a grown woman talk to another grown woman about an issue she has with her?

CalmBalonz · 23/12/2024 19:00

She is an arsehole and so is her husband for condoning this behaviour . Uninvite and don't invite them ever again. I would not even bother going out for meals either if that is her attitude. Bloody free loader.

BettyBardMacDonald · 23/12/2024 18:59

Vanfan · 23/12/2024 18:55

It seems to me that previous attempts to make her stop or shame her havent worked. But you don't say what BIL is doing /reacting when these requests are made. If its not much I would address all remarks to him.

" Aw I didnt know you werent doing so well in your job Bill"
"Are you struggling for food Bill - I'll get you the food banks address"
" Poor you Bill - cant afford to buy your wife a present of have food in the house"

Said in an innocent tone he cant complain as its obvious his wife is begging and what else can you construe from that?

That type of remark made in front of strangers ( your manager and wife ) should get a reaction of some sort.

Yeah, but how awkward for this to play out before one of OP's work colleagues. That's just grim, grim, grim.

Bin them out now and enjoy a pleasant day. For everyone's sake.

BettyBardMacDonald · 23/12/2024 18:58

It seems as though she has some sort of deep-rooted personality disorder. Not your problem or cross to bear.

Sorry but there is no fucking way I'd have this woman in my house on Christmas. Nor anyone who made me lie awake and dread them. Call or text now to rescind the invitation. You don't need to say why; just say "It won't work for us this year. Have a pleasant day." You wil be utterly relieved the minute you take back control.

I mean, it's your party, your house, your Christmas! Why should you not have it as you like?

Portakalkedi · 23/12/2024 18:58

Agree with getting her husband to tell her in advance, or you will do it in front of everyone. That might stop her. Personally I wouldn't have allowed another invitation to be issued to this grabbing cow.

Vanfan · 23/12/2024 18:55

It seems to me that previous attempts to make her stop or shame her havent worked. But you don't say what BIL is doing /reacting when these requests are made. If its not much I would address all remarks to him.

" Aw I didnt know you werent doing so well in your job Bill"
"Are you struggling for food Bill - I'll get you the food banks address"
" Poor you Bill - cant afford to buy your wife a present of have food in the house"

Said in an innocent tone he cant complain as its obvious his wife is begging and what else can you construe from that?

That type of remark made in front of strangers ( your manager and wife ) should get a reaction of some sort.

OatFlatWhiteForMePlease · 23/12/2024 18:54

Hope it went ok @Addyview, you must be knackered after a terrible sleep.

Lilactimes · 23/12/2024 18:52

ZeldaStoleMyCrumpets · 23/12/2024 17:44

How do you know she’s ill ?

The more likely explanation is that she’s a CF of the first order and her behaviour is being reinforced constantly because she’s being allowed to carry on with it.

i don’t … but it does sound a bit compulsive - the extent the SIL is behaving inspite of pushback from family.
may be easier for OP to accept this Xmas if she thinks she’s not well. Doesn’t mean she can’t still continue to push back and be firm.

housethatbuiltme · 23/12/2024 18:51

but BIL has asked us to leave it alone and just ignore her because she gets embarrassed.

Well she doesn't... because she keeps doing it. If she was embarrassed she would acknowledge and stop.

This isn't something out of her control (like pointing out someone has BO due to a medical issue or rushing to the toilet for IBS etc... things that can't be helped but would be really rude to point out) its something she is actively doing because seemingly no one is calling her on it.

Enterthedragonqueen · 23/12/2024 18:49

I so want the press to pick up this thread and make it to the national press! Do you think your cheeky fucker sister in law would recognise herself?

TwigletsAndRadishes · 23/12/2024 18:36

GreyAreas · 23/12/2024 17:53

Really tricky. No one else has cracked it OP, so it's unlikely you will overnight.
The only thing I would do is talk to her 1:1 and say can I just let you know that there will be no food or other things to take home, please don't ask because refusal may cause offence. If that's likely to annoy, then do it before they come.
A personality trait that's a defence against something in hers or her parents past I would guess. Kind of compulsive.

The thing is, if you make a big thing of it in advance and need to have 'a discussion' I think she'd just act all shocked and hurt and make out she doesn't know what on earth you mean. She'll deny it and get all defensive and wounded. It will cause a bad atmosphere either way.

I think it's just easier to deal with it as it happens. Be prepared for it and shoot her down with some one liners. Either very firm and assertive 'nope sorry, you can't have it, we can get another dinner out of that for tomorrow' or as others have said, roll your eyes and make a joke of it.

anon168231245630 · 23/12/2024 18:36

Say no stop asking every single time she asks for something and stop inviting them.

WindyRiver · 23/12/2024 18:31

Could you fill a SEALED box with crap you don't want and say, "I've already set aside some things for you." Could save you a trip to the tip.

GivingitToGod · 23/12/2024 18:31

I haven't voted OP but I do know it's near impossible to change the mindset of a stingy person.

TwigletsAndRadishes · 23/12/2024 18:31

Brefugee · 23/12/2024 17:27

You can't uninvite them now, that would be incredibly bad form.

bollocks to that. of course you can. Bad form is what SiL does. TBH bad form was OPs DH inviting them again without making it clear this behaviour is to stop.

I think if the OP and her DH are as bothered by this as she says then they never should have invited them in the first place. But given that they have, it's not really on to cancel at such short notice based on nothing at all other than the fear that she might do it again. That's just seriously weird behaviour. Besides which, it doesn't make the problem go away. Unless they are never going to have them in their house again, they just need to learn to deal with her as and when it happens.

Porkyporkchop · 23/12/2024 18:08

Fraaances · 23/12/2024 04:08

Ask if she is a vulture

This! Laugh out loud as you say it and make a big joke out of her scrounging , then ignore any further requests.

otherwise say “only dogs beg for scraps sil !” And again, laugh it off.