Mayor of Mazan (Gisèle Pelicot)

Yes.

But what about my 2 questions.

It was implied in the 4th post

No I wouldn't eat one.

Aside from the obvious fact that the ongoing drugging and raping of a woman by her husband and whoever responded to his adverts is not "not serious" because no-one died ....

A. He could have killed her accidentally when sedating her.

B. She was suffering a lot of issues due to the sedation; it's just "lucky" they didn't kill her/disable her etc.

C. Pelicot has been caught for the attempted sedation and rape of a very young woman. He's admitted it. He couldn't not, due to.dna. Again he could have killed that young woman.

But most importantly of all, a young woman was raped and killed/died in circumstances identical to the case he's been identified as the perpetrator of. They helpfully destroyed or lost forensic evidence for the rape and murder case but it looks like he may still be prosecuted. So he has - in all likelihood killed someone, someone has died. And he could have killed the other young woman. And he could have killed his wife.

Was the mayor made to resign?

I believe the rapist and murderer's defence attorney also made comments ridiculing the case; she needs prosecuted, she needs to lose her license (or whatever the correct term is in France).

I would get the know the maltesers a bit more before eating them, does that help?

Interestingly, what the mayor actually said, according to the media is

"Ça aurait pu être plus grave, il n’y a pas eu d’enfants impliqués, aucune femme n’est morte".
meaning it could have been much worst, at least there's no children involved and no woman died.

He obviously apologises for saying stupid things in front of journalists who were bombarding him with questions and he was completely out of his depth.

He wasn't exactly condoning rape either.

It fails as an analogy here because nobody is saying that.
Can you answer the question? Would you eat any of them, knowing one box was poisoned but not knowing which one?

but "putain" does not mean "fuck her" or "fuck you" at all?

You are not making any sense at all. I don't think you understand the word "putain".

He did voice that, so you think he is a rapist.

I didn't say he was a rapist, just that I personally would think someone was if they voiced that opinion.

Just to go one step further with the Malteser analogy.
What would you say if somebody said they hate all Maltesers because they all contain poison? And what would a non-poisonous Malteser say?

What that man said was despicable; he should lose his job and never hold public office again.

But there is no justification for publicly calling him a rapist.

I would assume anyone with that stance is also a rapist. He may even have been involved.

In an ordinary town men were busily engaging with a chat site called ‘Without Her Knowledge’ , manipulating their wives into
all sorts of situations (but others not in rape) for the predatory amusement of hundreds of other men.
In an ordinary town a man was easily able to recruit men to rape his wife. The ones we know about in the trial, ordinary men, men with families, responsible jobs, but also it is suspected that up to 200 men raped GP.
Ordinary men, living fairly close by, taking the opportunity to have sec with an unconscious woman just because they could. Because they thought they could get away with it.

An ordinary town. Ordinary men.

NAMALT but enough are that we take cabs home after dark, don’t like men walking on the pavement behind us at night, don’t feel safe ever walking alone, and so on and so on.
Enough men are like it, or potentially like it, to make all men a focus of suspicion.

The Malteser Box test.

Someone tells you that one Malteser in a box is deadly poison but it is impossible to tell which one. Do you eat a Malteser from the box? NAMALT…

If you genuinely haven't researched it, maybe do before commenting.

People who genuinely have, publish findings. I note you didn't touch the rape research. Just the child sexual attraction statistics. Don't you find those shocking? And the DV statistics. Basically the norm where there are no consequences.

Serial killers don't seek to harm the victims or the members of the victim's family. It's just that killing gives them pleasure and is necessary to get what they want.
Right?
If only we tried harder to understand serial killers, we could rid the world of this problem.
Right?

I'd bet he would find it "that bad" if it had happened to him!

What's stupid and innacurate is making a statistical claim that the majority of men are "just like us." You made that up from whole cloth and really have no idea what the stats are on this. You've admitted that.

You are being hilarious. In England too fuck is used everywhere, but the difference between fuck me and fuck you is quite important. Especially when someone says fuck her in a post on a woman being fucked against her knowledge. I don’t need any luck to convince the entire French population, I’m not even trying. It’s blatant though, and if you don’t see it then yabvu.

You have completely missed the point and your post makes little sense as a result.

Whenever people do this #notallmen I like to remind them that we can't tell in advance which men are the dangerous ones. They don't wear signs that say rapist, wife beater or pedophile, and the ones who are those things usually seem normal on the surface, so there's no way to tell. So functionally, it is all men that we have to be wary of. Whatever the percentage of predatory men is, it's obviously enough of them that we simply can't trust men as a general rule. So could people please just give NAMALT a rest.

It is a men problem. Clearly. For you and a few posters maybe, thankfully not in the real world.

more than1 in 100 men finds children sexually attractive. is that so? (genuinely haven't researched it, so no idea if you are making that up entirely)

Even if it's true, and of course it's too high, do you believe it's groups of women employed to fight this? It's disingenuous to portray "men" as the enemy.

It's not a "men" problem because they are not a different race or species!

It is a men problem. Clearly.

In terms of numbers, more than 1 in 100 men finds children sexually attractive. That means there's one in your street, on your bus, at your workplace. When asked the right question, not about rape but about forced non-consensual sex they wouldn't be convicted for, around a third of male college students said they would. If you ask about rape (obviously the same thing but worded differently) 13% said yes.

THIRTEEN PERCENT. And one third if you worded it differently.

That is a men problem. And that's educated men in a Western culture. Put a man in a misogynist, violent culture and somewhere there are no consequences, it's ubiquitous. In Papua New Guinea it's around 80% DV rate. Rape in war is everywhere.

The mayor was truthful, not unusual.

Many men are just as shocked as any woman by that story, men were dealing with the investigation, trial and caring for the victim.

It's not a case of "not all men", it's that the majority of men are the same as us. There are too many bad apples, that's true, but generalising and pretending it's a "men" problem is stupid and inaccurate.

"putain" literally means a prostitute, indeed

but is also a very common expletive in French. You might disagree with it, but good luck retraining the entire French population and stop them using it.

The OP clearly used it in the French meaning and manner.

I can't imagine any weirdo being offended by hearing "fuck!" in response to that story either. Fuck is used so much in our language, it's barely offensive. Yes, it's a swear word that I would use as such, but so far from the worst one.

Put things back in their cultural context, and keep your indignation for the actual story and the rapes, you sound ridiculous.

I see where you are coming from however I do believe a significant amount of problematic male behaviour is driven by hatred towards women. This tends to be linked to childhood abuse, the culture of toxic masculinity, witnessing domestic violence and lack of support and opportunities in the environment. So it is certainly complex, and hate is part of that.

I am a psychologist and used to work in forensics, specialising in sexual violence perpetrated by males. Most of these crimes were motivated by power or sadism, with an undercurrent of hatred towards women. Research will back this up, rape is rarely about sex and mainly about power. Dominating and humiliating women. You can also see this in incel culture, there are a number of disturbing documentaries and forums and again the hatred is plain to see.

Of course there is nuance and this is not a black and white issue, but misogyny is absolutely rife sadly.