Non-binary colleague using disabled toilet

@RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie The only nastiness in this thread is that directed at disabled people.

No, the bigger deal is being such a massive narcissist that you occupy a toilet made for people who need it (and urgently) and then claim discrimination. Ableist

Frankly I think your manager probably now see you as a troublemaker with too much time on her hands.

The manager probably feels compelled to placate the genderists due to edicts and ‘training’ by the company DEI division spreading unlawful interpretations of the law that undermines equality, but feels powerless to do anything about it.

Anyone can buy a radar key.

I haven’t said that I use disabled toilets. I don’t. I’ve said I have no problem with accessible toilets being used by others if disabled people aren’t using them. And in this particular case, the non binary colleague is perfectly within their rights to choose to do so.

For a lot of people it literally is, since many think being gay is a choice and it's all performative.

@DefendingPan Why do you care and make it your issue to raise? Let the people who are affected (if there are such people) make the complaint. Just focus on your own toilet trips.

@DefendingPan The thread you posted last week where you wanted to know if it was unreasonable to be annoyed at being asked to be considerate of disabled people(!) is still going and today you have given us this gem.

What is going on with you and your feelings about where other people go to the toilet, particularly minority groups, which you seem to particularly resent?

You lose the argument when you stoop low.

Unless they have an actual disability, stop this bonkers ‘non- binary’ attention seeking and use the right loo for the gender that they actually are.
It’s also selfish and blocks the disabled loo for the people who actually genuinely have no choice but to need it.

Being gay isn't the same as declaring yourself non-binary.

This!

Just make sure there's San pro bins in both though as I have experienced having ro wait for the correct "gender neutral" toilet to be available...

This is where I fear for the batshit nonsense we are all being subjected to and for the future for our poor kids! What you mean here is that you have to wait for the bloody ladies toilet as that is where the san pro bins are because, shock horror, women are the ones who have periods.

Are you more pissed off about them being non binary or not disabled?
You appear less annoyed at the latter.

The babies and elderly aren't non binary, so it's ok for them to use the disabled bathroom at the expense of disabled people.

Anyone can buy one.

She is an employee, not a member of the public. As such it absolutely is her business to ensure the service provided by her company doesn’t discriminate against disabled employees and customers.

They have bought a radar key. What are the terms attached to them buying it? If they're bought it they feel they comply.

I'd leave well alone. For so many reasons.

We have many elderly customers and many young families who all also need to use it.

Surprised you're not more annoyed at the idea of a disabled toilet functioning as a baby changing room. When do disabled people get to use the facility if there are "many" elderly people (are they disabled?) and young families also using it.

We're talking about OP situation, for her situation the person being disabled or not is literally the whole issue.

It's literally the relevant part.

• how does that affect you negatively? unless you are disabled yourself and have on many occasion had to wait to use the loo because they were using it, I really don't see why you have such a problem with it
• why are you so certain they have no disabilities? not all disabilities are visible and many people choose not to disclose this type of Information to colleagues
• I can completely understand why they feel they don't belong in either the male or female toilet
• You seem have to have an issue with someone describing themselves as non binary. Even if you don't personally agree with the concept when at work you need to be professional and respect people from that point of view. Would you treat a trans or non-binary customer/client in a different, less favourable way? in which case you need to read up on equality and diversity policies...

Frankly I think your manager probably now see you as a troublemaker with too much time on her hands.

Except you using it when you don’t need it means it’s not empty when the person with a stoma leak comes along.

or when the adult with urgency issues can’t get to the toilet so has an accident.

Obviously if another person with a disability is using it you will have to wait but every person who uses it who isn’t disabled makes it that much harder for someone with disabilities to go out.

It isn’t whilst they (and everyone else you think should be entitled to use it) are occupying it.

YABU
It's none of your business

What does it have to do with you? If customers complain, let them.