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To worry DS doesn’t watch TV?

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soiswitched · 21/12/2024 21:36

Yes stupid but … he’s four now and most of his friends seem to be getting into Disney, even movies like polar express and home alone and DS just never keeps still.

He used to like fireman Sam and geckos garage, and he used to watch the short Julia Donaldson films but it’s as if he’s losing the ability to sit and watch something.

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Crazyducklady · 22/12/2024 17:44

@soiswitched you say you noticed he engaged strangely with a toddler toy. How so? What looks strange to you is just play to our ND crew (unless he was trying to insert it somewhere amongst his person in which case I’d explain about privacy and there being special toys for that use only 🤣).
Kids play is weird. That’s what makes it so wonderful. It’s dynamic, toys and household items acquire skills and purpose you never dreamed possible.
Embrace the madness. My eldest is 17 and has lost most of this 😢

soiswitched · 22/12/2024 14:26

He’ll read stories with me but honestly to the rest, no. He used to but seems to be getting increasingly manic and actually losing the ability to focus the older ht gets. Play is just emptying boxes of toys on the floor. He engaged strangely with a toddler toy belonging to his sister earlier. I noticed he struggled to do a very basic shape sort a two year old managed at a group a few weeks ago. So it is worrying me a bit.

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redskydarknight · 22/12/2024 14:11

soiswitched · 22/12/2024 13:57

@redskydarknight all I can tell you is that most other four year olds I know seem to watch TV / films. Their parents could be lying, yes, and I don’t think anyone wants or expects in depth conversations about Toy Story or whatever but … yes … I’m a bit worried about his concentration levels.

If the MN consensus is that four year olds don’t watch TV because they haven’t got the level of concentration concerned fine but that is at odds with the posts that say things like TV is OK, put the TV on for them.

You misunderstand me.
I do think (some) 4 year olds sit and watch films. I just doubt they have the sort of understanding of the subject matter that you seem to think they do.

From what you've described, he's clearly able to sit and concentrate in other situations, so I can't see anything to worry about. Not liking to watch moving pictures on a screen because you'd rather be doing something else is not a problem.

The rule of thumb for children's attention span is 2-3 minutes per year of age. That's just 8-12 minutes for a 4 year old. Will he concentrate on things (doesn't matter what - imaginary play, listening to a story, building with blocks ...) for that length of time?

Crazyducklady · 22/12/2024 14:01

I’ve got a 13yr old ASD/PDA profile, ADHD. I don’t think he’s watched a children’s programme ever from start to finish. They don’t hold his attention (unsurprisingly because most of them are rubbish). He’s a pacer, or a hangerupsidedowner, or a balance on an indoor surf board type of guy. He can watch a programme that way on the family tv.
Any new movies or series he likes to watch alone on his iPad first. We can then watch together on the tv but it’s a bit like going to the movies with Tigger.
Oddly,on the 3 occasions he has been to the cinema he didn’t more a muscle! 😂

soiswitched · 22/12/2024 13:57

@redskydarknight all I can tell you is that most other four year olds I know seem to watch TV / films. Their parents could be lying, yes, and I don’t think anyone wants or expects in depth conversations about Toy Story or whatever but … yes … I’m a bit worried about his concentration levels.

If the MN consensus is that four year olds don’t watch TV because they haven’t got the level of concentration concerned fine but that is at odds with the posts that say things like TV is OK, put the TV on for them.

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BadgerInDungarees · 22/12/2024 13:51

My dd is 15 now and has never been a TV watcher. She was just never interested, she had a brief thing for my little pony when she was small but other than that TV has never held her interest. She is perfectly normal in all other respects, doing well at school, has lots of friends, TV has just never been her thing.

redskydarknight · 22/12/2024 13:48

soiswitched · 22/12/2024 04:07

But other four year olds do.

Really? Have you had discussions with 4 year olds after watching films like Home Alone? Do they really follow the whole plot line and understand who all the characters are (I'm an adult and I've watched it many times, but I'm not sure I could successfully describe most of the characters beyond Kevin and the bad guys and Kevin's mum)? or are they just finding the slapstick type humour funny? I think a 4 year old who was genuinely following the plot might get upset that Kevin was all alone. Does this happen?

This is on a par with people who insist their 4 year olds have read the whole of Harry Potter - there is a difference between reading or viewing and understanding.

soiswitched · 22/12/2024 13:28

I feel like everyone is hyper focusing on the particular film 😂 I personally wouldn’t want him to watch Home Alone at this age because of the language, but I did give some other examples of the films watched and there’s no way DS could manage that. So it does make you wonder.

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Girasoli · 22/12/2024 13:22

DS1s never actually seen Home Alone, thanks for popping it into my head...it might be a good film to watch Christmas eve in the evening (DS2 will be asleep by then hopefully).

Girasoli · 22/12/2024 13:20

DS1 (8) couldn't concentrate on a film at 4, but could concentrate fine on building a train track for ages and could also concentrate fine (but was a bit fidgety) at school. He probably started enjoying films at around 6?

DS2 (almost 5) has a 'calmer' personality and will happily watch a film at 4, but he's not interested in non-animated ones yet.

soiswitched · 22/12/2024 13:08

I think that’s my worry @Longtimelurkerfinallyposts , it’s kind of symptomatic of the fact he doesn’t seem to engage awfully well with ‘four year old’ things, but he is my first and so I could be way off on what I might expect them to be able to do.

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Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 22/12/2024 13:07

Surely it's good that he's not interested in screens?! Hopefully he can spend more time on other activities which are better for his development - making things, reading, playing, arts and crafts etc?!

soiswitched · 22/12/2024 12:56

ForFunAmberDeer · 22/12/2024 04:48

Is he your oldest vs other 4 year olds you know who have older siblings? 4 is v young to expect full concentration on a feature length film.

That’s interesting because I was thinking four would kind of be the turning point in many ways, where he would engage with maybe slightly longer stories and films like Disney or similar, I can’t really remember when I did but I’m sure I remember watching a couple of films at his age.

@sparkleandshine7 please just don’t reply, you’re being really rude.

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sparkleandshine7 · 22/12/2024 12:39

soiswitched · 22/12/2024 04:07

But other four year olds do.

Mores the pity, stuck in front of the television. Read them a book. If you are genuinely worried see a professional, don't diagnose something unfounded with Home Alone as your reference point.

MollyButton · 22/12/2024 09:49

When my daughter was 4, she went to watch her brother (6) in his Panto. As parents had occupied all the toddler seats, she got to sit in the front row next to the Headmistress. She was absorbed and sat perfectly still watching well.
At the end the Headmistress commented on how absorbed she'd been.

I tell you this not to make you feel bad but a) because it was so unusual
*b) because yesterday as an adult she received an ADHD diagnosis
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Your son just sounds like a lively boy.
Also parents do lie, I'm not convinced that many of those 4 year olds really follow a long film.

ForFunAmberDeer · 22/12/2024 04:48

soiswitched · 22/12/2024 04:07

But other four year olds do.

Is he your oldest vs other 4 year olds you know who have older siblings? 4 is v young to expect full concentration on a feature length film.

Londonrach1 · 22/12/2024 04:13

Sounds normal for 4. My dd had no interest in films or Disney. It's only been in the last 6 months she suddenly interested in watching films. She is 8. She preferred to play with small world toys or draw.

soiswitched · 22/12/2024 04:07

sparkleandshine7 · 21/12/2024 22:53

He wouldn't follow it because he's 4.

But other four year olds do.

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AgileGreenSeal · 21/12/2024 23:05

Is he your first child, OP?

AgileGreenSeal · 21/12/2024 23:03

TV is mostly boring rubbish anyway.

sparkleandshine7 · 21/12/2024 22:53

soiswitched · 21/12/2024 22:11

I’m a little bit worried that his concentration levels and ability to follow a plot, characters, story, seem vastly different to that of his friends - it isn’t about the specific film. I wouldn’t actually want him watching home alone. But he wouldn’t follow it and that is a worry.

Thanks @bridgetreilly

He wouldn't follow it because he's 4.

redskydarknight · 21/12/2024 22:19

He sounds like a normal 4 year old. I also don't think you can equate sitting and watching a screen with being able to follow a plot, characters and story.
Does he follow the stories in books?

soiswitched · 21/12/2024 22:11

sparkleandshine7 · 21/12/2024 22:04

Home alone at 4 seriously. You're worried about that.

I’m a little bit worried that his concentration levels and ability to follow a plot, characters, story, seem vastly different to that of his friends - it isn’t about the specific film. I wouldn’t actually want him watching home alone. But he wouldn’t follow it and that is a worry.

Thanks @bridgetreilly

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bridgetreilly · 21/12/2024 22:05

Wriggling is really normal for children at that age, especially boys. You need to stop worrying.

sparkleandshine7 · 21/12/2024 22:04

Home alone at 4 seriously. You're worried about that.