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To tell them they can’t drink in their own home?

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Toddlertantrums222 · 21/12/2024 20:23

Hi, I am a single mum to a toddler and have been invited by my family (parents and siblings) to spend Christmas with them and stay for the week.

I sent out a text a few days ago to basically say that I’d really appreciate it if people withhold from consuming alcohol around my son, excluding Christmas Day. I explained that most nights he goes to bed by 6/7pm so obviously still plenty time to drink in the evening. Reason being is that I just don’t like the atmosphere of people being drunk, especially when it brings out an aggressive/argumentative side which I have seen in certain family members. I wouldn’t take him to a pub everyday for the same reason. It’s also a safeguarding concern as a few months ago one family member was watching my son and he had a fall, resulting in a lump on his head and bruise lasting a week. I didn’t know they had been drinking, apparently it was only a couple, but I really felt like the alcohol was partly to blame. Maybe I’m being paranoid and it had nothing to do with it, but that’s how I feel.

2 out of the 3 adult family members have responded with yes that’s totally fine but the others have not. Not a peep.

I don’t know if I am being unreasonable or not. Personally I don’t really care for alcohol, could go months without touching it, so doesn’t bother me. But appreciate others do enjoy drinking a lot more than me.

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SameAsItEverWas24 · 21/12/2024 23:56

BillieJ · 21/12/2024 23:48

I see there is a bit of a turn here - if you agree that OP can choose what people drink, anyone disagreeing is alcoholic or sanctioning alcoholic behaviour. The majority are seeing the real issue - if you are a guest in a house (even your parents' house) you just quietly accept the social mores. I will not drink any more alcohol at Christmas than any other time of the year. I won't drink during the day, and I won't have more than a couple of glasses of wine. Do I get to impose my regimen on everyone else? No. Does having a child give you a pass? No

It's her FAMILY. She can ask them anything. And it's good that she feels she can. They can say no. But as it turns out, most have said yes. Because, Ya know, families do sometimes care about each other and do things for each other. How depressing is it to not be able to ask your own parents and siblings a favour? How depressing is it that people prioritise drinking over seeing a loved one? There are some incredibly rude responses on this thread which does suggest an unhealthy relationship with alcohol. SORRY

Parisienne123 · 21/12/2024 23:54

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devilspawn · 21/12/2024 23:53

Did you phrase it as a question? If not I wouldn't reply to you. So it may be that they're fine with it and just haven't replied.

Ayechinnyreckon · 21/12/2024 23:48

Personally I just wouldn't visit.

I think you're asking for trouble.

A) I wouldn't want my kid around people who become aggressive when drunk. So don't think you're unreasonable to protect him against that.

BUT

B) you can't dictate what people do in their own home.

AND

C) so they agree to it now but 4pm Christmas eve and they decide to crack open the Bailey's. What are you realistically going to do? Either you'll sit there on edge or you'll start an argument (even if not intentionally).

BillieJ · 21/12/2024 23:48

I see there is a bit of a turn here - if you agree that OP can choose what people drink, anyone disagreeing is alcoholic or sanctioning alcoholic behaviour. The majority are seeing the real issue - if you are a guest in a house (even your parents' house) you just quietly accept the social mores. I will not drink any more alcohol at Christmas than any other time of the year. I won't drink during the day, and I won't have more than a couple of glasses of wine. Do I get to impose my regimen on everyone else? No. Does having a child give you a pass? No

thesunisastar · 21/12/2024 23:48

I'm in the minority but I understand perfectly where you are coming from.

I love a drink as do most of my friends and family, but we are all generally cheerful and very moderate drinkers. Unfortunately one family member is a terrible drinker and becomes maudlin, argumentative and and confrontational. As adult it is tedious and rather depressing to be around, but for children it is really unsettling and potentially quite frightening.

Why should the crappy behaviour of one family member mean that another family feels they have no choice but to exclude themselves? I think the fact that it is their house is a red herring. Everyone should be prioritising each other irrespective of whose house it is, and if you're a problem drinker then you should take it on the chin when someone calls you out on it. Which thankfully is what seems to have happened in the OP's case.

Dungareesarecool · 21/12/2024 23:48

It’s like OP asking them all to avoid eating any sugar as part of the meal because it’s unhealthy and she feels they are setting a bad example around obesity and would be too fat to run after her son if he bolted which was a safety issue. Or asking them not to eat meat because it’s harmful to animals and she is bringing her son up as a vegetarian

Too much sugar is bad for you but not necessarily just because of obesity anyway that aside - I have such a sweet tooth AND I love fish!

So if someone asked me this I won’t lie I’d probably say no 😆 or I’d eat chocolate in secret lol but that’s the thing - OPs family could say no too. If they’ve chosen to go along it there is literally no issue.

Johnson1704 · 21/12/2024 23:43

Whilst I can understand your concerns regarding aggressive behaviour if it’s that bad why would you want to put yourself and your child in that position.

RampantIvy · 21/12/2024 23:42

@Toddlertantrums222 You say it is a large house. Could you and your toddler just leave the room and go elsewhere or for a walk?
What does your younger sibling do when things get fraught?

Dungareesarecool · 21/12/2024 23:42

SameAsItEverWas24 · 21/12/2024 23:29

Ouch. OP is clearly upsetting alcoholic Mumsnet today. For some Xmas is about family, and other Xmas is about drinking. And never the twain shall meet.

Exactly lol what a bonkers thread and this in particular is an OTT unnecessarily aggressive response.

It makes me think the heavy Christmas drinking is clearly well underway for some posters on this thread and they are not the “happy” sort of drunks.

marmia1234 · 21/12/2024 23:38

mindutopia · 21/12/2024 20:32

I think this is a you issue and you need to walk with your feet rather than asking people to change their otherwise fairly reasonable behaviour.

I’m a recovering alcoholic and even I would never dream of asking people to not drink alcohol in their own home around me or my dc. If I felt it was going to be an issue and my dc would be unsafe or I would feel uncomfortable, I would put a boundary in place and make alternative plans. Drunk people do annoy me, but I just up and leave if they get particularly obnoxious.

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YouMeandBrie · 21/12/2024 23:38

I don’t think it’s about being an alcoholic, I think it’s more about being controlling about something many people enjoy as part of Christmas dinner and also about dictating to others.

It’s like OP asking them all to avoid eating any sugar as part of the meal because it’s unhealthy and she feels they are setting a bad example around obesity and would be too fat to run after her son if he bolted which was a safety issue. Or asking them not to eat meat because it’s harmful to animals and she is bringing her son up as a vegetarian. You would think wtf not accuse people of being sugar or meat addicts if they objected.

Dungareesarecool · 21/12/2024 23:37

It doesn’t matter if even a 100% voted Op is BU.Her family’s opinion is the one that matters and they’ve agreed to go along with it. Problem solved!

Of course they may not stick to it but Op can only take their response at face value and see how it goes. If it doesn’t work out she can always just not go next time.

I just don’t understand the anger about this considering it’s not anyone on here being asked not to drink 😆 It’s her family who have been asked and they’ve said yea so what’s the issue?

Op enjoy your week with family and update us on how it goes!

ManchesterLu · 21/12/2024 23:35

Of course you're being unreasonable.

YOU need to stay sober to look after your child, but nobody else does.

TofuTart · 21/12/2024 23:34

I've voted YABU as you can't get to dictate that they're not allowed to drink in their own home over Christmas.
I'm a mum, I totally get being anxious, but if you're with them, surely you'll be keeping an eye on them so there hopefully won't be any drama or accidents this time?

BillieJ · 21/12/2024 23:34

Parisienne123 · 21/12/2024 23:31

I wouldn’t if it was my daughter asking. Îd want to understand why and given OP’s reasons I’d agree with her request.

Yes, you could agree ... but who are either of you to change the rules for everyone else?

Less than a week before Christmas too.

BillieJ · 21/12/2024 23:32

96% on unreasonable - suck it up OP and stay home or retract. Think about this long term - your family are not going to suddenly change I grew up with adults who were, at the very least, alcohol dependent. As an adult, I've navigated social situations knowing that what people say is not the same as what will happen.

But this is not your house - if you want things done your way, you do the shopping, catering and negotiations with everyone. If you're not doing that - go with the flow or stay away.

Parisienne123 · 21/12/2024 23:31

BrightonFrock · 21/12/2024 23:03

I’d tell you to bugger off.

I wouldn’t if it was my daughter asking. Îd want to understand why and given OP’s reasons I’d agree with her request.

SameAsItEverWas24 · 21/12/2024 23:29

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Ouch. OP is clearly upsetting alcoholic Mumsnet today. For some Xmas is about family, and other Xmas is about drinking. And never the twain shall meet.

Joystir59 · 21/12/2024 23:27

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Saschka · 21/12/2024 23:22

Toddlertantrums222 · 21/12/2024 20:39

I’ve been told!

my issue isn’t with alcohol in general, I have friends who are welcome to come to my house and drink because they don’t go overboard and are the ‘funny drunks.’ Certain family members have history of being aggressive when drunk and having bad moods, which I’m almost certain my son would pick up on and I don’t want him exposed to. They are absolutely fine when sober tho that’s why ideally I’d prefer they are sober around him.

Doesn’t anyone you know drink in moderation? Are the only two options “funny drunk” or “belligerent drunk”?

It sounds like you hang around with a lot of problem drinkers. Given that, I actually don’t think it’s unreasonable to say you don’t want to bring your DC round if they are all going to be pissed and starting fights with thin air by 3pm. But you’d be better just not going than trying to tell an aggressive alcoholic not to drink.

Frith2013 · 21/12/2024 23:22

I would add that staying with anyone for 7 days is too long.

Dungareesarecool · 21/12/2024 23:19

I’m in the minority here @Toddlertantrums222 but I think YANBU. You just asked the question - they had every right to say no, but they didn’t!

They’ve went along with it for some reason, maybe they’re self aware and know they’re not their best selves when drinking for the whole day and night so are low key relieved. Or maybe they just don’t want to risk you not coming.

But for whatever reason, they’ve agreed not to drink before 7pm -which isn’t some massive hardship if you’re not an alcoholic - so I don’t see why people are getting upset??

If they said no and you were trying to force it that would have BU.

Parisienne123 · 21/12/2024 23:19

Buttercup198 · 21/12/2024 23:17

Your totally unreasonable you can't tell people what to do in their house don't bloody go then I wouldn't want you in my house if that was the case

They are not just people they are her family.

Parisienne123 · 21/12/2024 23:18

SameAsItEverWas24 · 21/12/2024 23:16

They're your family, so you should be able to ask them anything. Even this. I think it's a reasonable suggestion if there is a problematic drinker who threatens to ruin it for everyone else just because they can't control themselves. Why should you and your son miss out on a family Xmas because of an alcoholic in the family? Why aren't you allowed to say anything? Sounds like a reasonable request to YOUR OWN family and a good compromise. Well done OP

Exactly !!! Praise the Lord at last someone else who thinks like me 😆

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