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To tell them they can’t drink in their own home?

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Toddlertantrums222 · 21/12/2024 20:23

Hi, I am a single mum to a toddler and have been invited by my family (parents and siblings) to spend Christmas with them and stay for the week.

I sent out a text a few days ago to basically say that I’d really appreciate it if people withhold from consuming alcohol around my son, excluding Christmas Day. I explained that most nights he goes to bed by 6/7pm so obviously still plenty time to drink in the evening. Reason being is that I just don’t like the atmosphere of people being drunk, especially when it brings out an aggressive/argumentative side which I have seen in certain family members. I wouldn’t take him to a pub everyday for the same reason. It’s also a safeguarding concern as a few months ago one family member was watching my son and he had a fall, resulting in a lump on his head and bruise lasting a week. I didn’t know they had been drinking, apparently it was only a couple, but I really felt like the alcohol was partly to blame. Maybe I’m being paranoid and it had nothing to do with it, but that’s how I feel.

2 out of the 3 adult family members have responded with yes that’s totally fine but the others have not. Not a peep.

I don’t know if I am being unreasonable or not. Personally I don’t really care for alcohol, could go months without touching it, so doesn’t bother me. But appreciate others do enjoy drinking a lot more than me.

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TankFlyBossW4lk · 22/12/2024 14:24

Op, I really don't like people getting drunk either, especially early on but honestly, you're being so precious. I get that you really like everyone and they are more fun without alcohol but you're storing problems up for yourself in the future. You're coming across as unreasonable, not here on MN, but to those you actually care about. It may effect your interactions in the future. Eg whether you are invited etc

Also, who's hosting? Have you actually asked them first? I'd be annoyed with you stipulating your rules without having asked me first if I was hosting.

The other thing, he's 6 years old, not 6 months. If you need to use the loo, tell him to wait for you outside if you're so very anxious.

fairycakes1234 · 22/12/2024 14:23

This is madness, don't go, or go and look after your own child, what happens if they drink, do they get locked falling around and starting arguments, if thats the case don't go, if its not the case go and let them do what they want. Yabu

BeensOnToost · 22/12/2024 14:17

Toddlertantrums222 · 21/12/2024 20:49

Yeah, maybe you are right. I know it’s a bit OTT to ask someone that, I knew that when I sent the message.
I guess I was just coming from a place of really wanting to have a lovely Christmas with my son and family, and I know if people stuck to this rule we would have a great time. It’s not even every family member, mainly just one who gets like this; but I sent the message to everyone so that they didn’t feel singled out.

The thing is, that's like saying if everyone followed the law, we would have a wonderfully safe society - it's just not life.

You're best off breaking the cycle of acceptance and staying away. Perhaps it will shine a light on another person's behaviour being so intolerable that it's pushing family away and others will need to make a choice about whose company is more important. I remember reading a sad case on here where a man had stood by his alcoholoce wife for so long that his adult kids had basically nothing to do with either of them, so be prepared that the may not choose you and your son.

But take comfort that you're breaking the cycle and that that is more important in the long run.

I do feel for you though. So many people have a problem with alcohol, even if its not dependency, and it stains peoples lives and ripples further than just the user.

TTCJJB · 22/12/2024 14:09

Surely this isn't a genuine post?!
Of course you can't dictate how people spend their Christmas, in their own home.
As a parent you should be the one not drinking as you're watching your child, if anyone becomes aggressive then surely you leave or if you're certain this will happen you don't go.

IdylicDay · 22/12/2024 13:42

Dotjones · 22/12/2024 12:25

I want to say YABU and if you don't like the atmosphere, don't go... but... Christmas Day aside, who drinks before about 6pm anyway unless they've got a serious problem with alcohol? I drink way too much myself but have no desire to start before about 6 o'clock anyway. Plenty of time to have a few in the evening.

what??? You can't be serious! Most people have drinks with their Christmas lunch. At 6pm Christmas day is basically done and dusted. I know of no one that would wait til the day is almost over to drink!

nomoremsniceperson · 22/12/2024 13:37

Truth is OP, that a lot of people are alcohol dependent (especially in the UK) and can't imagine not drinking before 6/7pm every day so you won't get much sympathy in the comments. I was the same once, but when my dad became a raging (but functioning) alcoholic I bought him books to help him give up... turns out he had already read them and they didn't help him as he was too far gone, but I read them and don't drink any more and now I see how corrosive alcohol is and how in denial most people are about their psychological reliance on it.
All those who feel personally attacked by this comment should probably read The Easy Way to Control Alcohol by Allen Carr, and This Naked Mind by Annie Grace. Trust me, your body and mind will thank you later.

Longma · 22/12/2024 13:04

Toddlertantrums222 · 21/12/2024 20:40

And of course I am not expecting anyone to baby sit but it’s a big house and if for example I need to use the toliet, I want to be able to do so without worrying that I will walk back in the room to an argument/ or people being rude to one another.

It sounds like a potentially miserable Christmas. I think just pop in early on during one of the 'main' day, if you want to, and then just head home and have a non-aggressive Christmas at home instead.

Longma · 22/12/2024 13:00

Of course you can't ask people not to drink in their own home!
That's incredibly unreasonable.

If you don't want to be around people having a drink or you are concerned that your family can't enjoy a drink without getting drunk and aggressive then maybe just go and visit in the morning and return home after.

DarcyProudman · 22/12/2024 12:41

I’m a non drinker and even I think YABU 😀

Gwenhwyfar · 22/12/2024 12:29

" It’s not even every family member, mainly just one who gets like this; but I sent the message to everyone so that they didn’t feel singled out."

This is the problem. The ones who don't get aggressive when drinking are being penalised because of that one person. It's not fair on those people.

Dotjones · 22/12/2024 12:25

I want to say YABU and if you don't like the atmosphere, don't go... but... Christmas Day aside, who drinks before about 6pm anyway unless they've got a serious problem with alcohol? I drink way too much myself but have no desire to start before about 6 o'clock anyway. Plenty of time to have a few in the evening.

Anonymouseposter · 22/12/2024 12:16

I do understand where OP is coming from. Clearly some members of her family have a real problem with alcohol and I don't think she's wrapping her child in cotton wool, situations can turn very ugly when drink is involved.
I also understand that OP wants to spend time with the members of her family that she gets on with well rather than feel isolated and out of things alone with her child.
I do agree that you cant tell/ask people not to drink. They may agree but not stick to it and you can't police other people.
If you join an organisation like Al Anon one of the first things you learn is that you cannot control other people and that you are powerless over their use of alcohol.
You can however control your own response.
If you are worried OP I would make the visit a bit shorter.
Think in advance how you will handle it if things go badly. Will you have a room where you can take your child? Do you have any friends nearby you could visit? Could you go out for a walk or drive home if it was bad enough?
Plan ahead and don't react emotionally, just put your plan into action. And try to chill, relax- don't watch whether people are drinking or not just act if you see that they are becoming argumentative and aggressive.
You will antagonise people by trying to tell them what to do but I do understand why you would want to.

Onlyvisiting · 22/12/2024 12:12

It sounds like your family have problems around alcohol, so yes, I'd either not go of ask them to not drink around your child. But I wouldn't go myself, social drink or 2 during the day- fine. Drinking to the point of being loud, argumentative or generally have their behavior visibly affected by it then I want no part of it and would absolutely not have it around my child. Including Christmas day.

Glittertwins · 22/12/2024 12:08

It is a bit weird to have even considered to ask but I wasn't brought up in a household that appears to revolve around alcohol so arguing and aggression isn't something that I've had to consider.

Parisienne123 · 22/12/2024 12:08

SALaw · 22/12/2024 11:58

You are unreasonable. Your choice is go to the family or don't go but you can't dictate this

If she was my daughter or sister Îd absolutely rather she asked for this reasonable favour ( not drinking around her son ) than not come at all. I could always say no , but given her reasons I wouldn’t.

SameAsItEverWas24 · 22/12/2024 12:04

WhimsicalGubbins76 · 22/12/2024 11:56

Did you purposely post this for a pile on??

They’d be well within their rights to tell you stay at home, alone, for Christmas.

What a ridiculous, entitled post op 🤣🤣

Yeah. But they didn't. Some people have decent families

SALaw · 22/12/2024 11:58

You are unreasonable. Your choice is go to the family or don't go but you can't dictate this

WhimsicalGubbins76 · 22/12/2024 11:56

Did you purposely post this for a pile on??

They’d be well within their rights to tell you stay at home, alone, for Christmas.

What a ridiculous, entitled post op 🤣🤣

SameAsItEverWas24 · 22/12/2024 11:54

AhBiscuits · 22/12/2024 11:50

Asking people not to be twats is fine. Asking someone not to have a glass of wine is not.

What? The drinking leads to the twattery. Just like jumping in on a thread without bothering to read it properly (and making it about yourself) leads to twattery.

Boomer55 · 22/12/2024 11:51

Their house, their rules. Of course you’re being unreasonable 🤷‍♀️

AhBiscuits · 22/12/2024 11:50

SameAsItEverWas24 · 22/12/2024 11:43

Asking people not to be twats is hardly "micro managing". It's pretty healthy behaviour. Good for you OP

Asking people not to be twats is fine. Asking someone not to have a glass of wine is not.

SameAsItEverWas24 · 22/12/2024 11:43

Toddlertantrums222 · 22/12/2024 10:05

It’s not that at all. My son is 2 and chidlren, even babies, pick up on peoples emotions especially when they are extremely heightened/negative. That to me is unhealthy.
I understand it’s a bit mad to ask, and in ideal world I wouldn’t have to, but I felt I needed to so I did.

Asking people not to be twats is hardly "micro managing". It's pretty healthy behaviour. Good for you OP

Phoebefail · 22/12/2024 11:26

If we went out we would leave a bottle of wine for the baby sitter.

SameAsItEverWas24 · 22/12/2024 10:42

eightIsNewNine · 22/12/2024 00:42

The YABU number is irrelevant.
Half of the posters didn't get over the headline.
Half of those who did inserted themselves and their drinking habits in the situation and feel offended someone would ask them when they have "no problem".

You are trying to find a way to make the stay with your family work and you actually have a good chance to get the critical mass on your side. Of course things can blow up anyway, and you know it, but it is absolutely worth trying.

This. OPs original post wasnt brilliantly written. But read the rest of her posts (there is a button to do this folks ) and it makes more sense. But seems like most YABUs didn't get past the first post. Pity really.

Toddlertantrums222 · 22/12/2024 10:05

IdylicDay · 22/12/2024 02:25

You are trying to micromanage everyone to wrap your son up in cotton wool when he wouldn't even notice or understand arguments. He wouldn't even notice. What you're trying to do is very unhealthy.

It’s not that at all. My son is 2 and chidlren, even babies, pick up on peoples emotions especially when they are extremely heightened/negative. That to me is unhealthy.
I understand it’s a bit mad to ask, and in ideal world I wouldn’t have to, but I felt I needed to so I did.

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