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Help! Travelling Monday - Passport Expiry.

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invisiblebark · 21/12/2024 18:14

Planned a day trip to Europe on Monday to go to a Xmas Market.

One of the kids passports expires on 16th January.

Will he be refused entry??

I believe you need at least 3 months left on the passport?

OP posts:
MolkosTeenageAngst · 21/12/2024 19:41

Thats so annoying. It wouldn’t occur to me that a passport wouldn’t be valid for travel before it had actually expired, I would have assumed it was fine to travel up to the 16th January. It is an easy mistake to make and strikes me as an odd rule that you can’t travel with under 3 months left on a passport, why give an expiry date if actually it’s not valid from another, sooner, date?

NoBiscuitsLeftInMyTin · 21/12/2024 19:38

JustHoldOnOneMinute · 21/12/2024 18:54

Such a shame... I really feel for your all.

Passports are super-quick right now, too. I sent mine off on Tuesday afternoon and got it back this morning (Saturday). Sorry, probably not a helpful thing to say...

SS will know you wanted him with you. That is worth a lot.

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NoBiscuitsLeftInMyTin · 21/12/2024 19:37

JustHoldOnOneMinute · 21/12/2024 18:54

Such a shame... I really feel for your all.

Passports are super-quick right now, too. I sent mine off on Tuesday afternoon and got it back this morning (Saturday). Sorry, probably not a helpful thing to say...

SS will know you wanted him with you. That is worth a lot.

They are zippy atm, I sent mine off on Thursday and they received it Friday and I had the new one on the following Tuesday - sorry that that won’t help the OP though.

BBBusterkeys · 21/12/2024 19:36

they are 18 years old and it’s a day trip. Looks like they will be sitting this one out. Unfortunate but a good life lesson for them. Make sure they understand why, and that it’s their responsibility to manage their own passport now they are an adult.

Shopgirl1 · 21/12/2024 19:30

Mademetoxic · 21/12/2024 19:17

so you're more easily traced I guess.

Not sure having 6 months left on your passport makes you any more traceable than having 2 months or a month.

niadainud · 21/12/2024 19:27

biscuitsandbooks · 21/12/2024 19:23

He's only just turned 18 and the holiday was booked by his parents - I don't think it's surprising that he just said "yes, I'd love to come" and didn't really think anything else of it.

If a parent organises a family holiday for multiple children, I do think they have a responsibility to check that all passports are valid, even if some of those children are technically adults.

Yes, I agree - responded to a similar comment a few minutes ago.

nellythe · 21/12/2024 19:27

biscuitsandbooks · 21/12/2024 19:25

When was this?

June!

GravyBoatWars · 21/12/2024 19:26

Oh no! Obviously in hindsight you or DH should have checked (this isn’t something I’d expect an average 18 year old to know yet since they likely haven’t been involved in arranging much travel yet), but I can see how it would get missed, especially with a last minute trip and mum being keeper of his passport. Unfortunately it sounds like he’s going to have to stay behind this time. Disappointing but this won’t be scarring for him at this age. Is there an alternative treat DH can arrange for him? I’m guessing that could to a long way to softening the blow.

I’m a mid-30s professional who travels internationally roughly 30 weeks per year, and about this time last year I arrived in the US with DH and all 7 of our DC for a Holiday visit and got to spend several hours at the airport sorting things out because I had somehow brought only my UK passport with me… as a dual citizen I know full well that I need my US one to enter or leave there. We all miss things and just have to figure out the least shite way to deal with the problem.

Hopefully Santa will bring some of these posters trampolines next week since they seem to have a need to jump up and down on something.

Mademetoxic · 21/12/2024 19:26

Justsayit123 · 21/12/2024 19:23

Would it be worth you taking him and seeing if he gets in?

Well he won't get in. Why would he with 3 weeks left?! What a stupid comment.

MumDoingMyBest · 21/12/2024 19:26

@invisiblebark I realise this is probably irrelevant but from context I'm assuming that it is a British passport your dss has. If it was an EU one I think it would still be ok.

JustHoldOnOneMinute · 21/12/2024 19:26

visitbreakfast · 21/12/2024 19:23

@JustHoldOnOneMinute

I think it is just unlucky timing. He's 18. Last time his passport expired, he would have been 8.

13, surely?

Yes, 13, realised that after I posted. Still probably young enough not to pay it much heed.

biscuitsandbooks · 21/12/2024 19:25

nellythe · 21/12/2024 19:24

I realised the night before a flight that one of the children’s passports only had a month left on it. Shit parenting, I know. Life was on top of us at the time.
I decided to risk it as knew there was obviously no chance of getting a new passport in time or getting any of the flight money back (terrible, I know). Nothing said boarding the flight there or back. Nothing said at customs either.
I’m not suggesting it’s a good idea to risk it but that’s my personal experience.

When was this?

biscuitsandbooks · 21/12/2024 19:25

Justsayit123 · 21/12/2024 19:23

Would it be worth you taking him and seeing if he gets in?

Why would he get in? His passport isn't valid for travel to Europe.

nellythe · 21/12/2024 19:24

I realised the night before a flight that one of the children’s passports only had a month left on it. Shit parenting, I know. Life was on top of us at the time.
I decided to risk it as knew there was obviously no chance of getting a new passport in time or getting any of the flight money back (terrible, I know). Nothing said boarding the flight there or back. Nothing said at customs either.
I’m not suggesting it’s a good idea to risk it but that’s my personal experience.

Justsayit123 · 21/12/2024 19:23

Would it be worth you taking him and seeing if he gets in?

visitbreakfast · 21/12/2024 19:23

@JustHoldOnOneMinute

I think it is just unlucky timing. He's 18. Last time his passport expired, he would have been 8.

13, surely?

biscuitsandbooks · 21/12/2024 19:23

niadainud · 21/12/2024 19:15

I don't understand the logic here. Yes, if you were booking somewhere that required a visa that the other passengers might not be aware of, or if you were booking a surprise trip, but if you agree to be part of a holiday abroad I think the onus is on you to make sure your passport is valid.

Do you expect the person who made the booking to make sure you get to the airport on time and tell you to pack clean underwear as well? Not unless you're their child, I wouldn't have thought.

Edited

He's only just turned 18 and the holiday was booked by his parents - I don't think it's surprising that he just said "yes, I'd love to come" and didn't really think anything else of it.

If a parent organises a family holiday for multiple children, I do think they have a responsibility to check that all passports are valid, even if some of those children are technically adults.

niadainud · 21/12/2024 19:21

JustHoldOnOneMinute · 21/12/2024 19:17

I think it is just unlucky timing. He's 18. Last time his passport expired, he would have been 8. Next time he'll be 28. He's dropped the ball because he's new to being responsible for it and it probably never occurred to him.

Oh yes, totally agree in this case. It's just the person saying it was the responsibility of the trip-booked made it sound like a general principle.

Academic, of course, in this specific situation.

Mademetoxic · 21/12/2024 19:20

PeloMom · 21/12/2024 19:06

Right??? It’s shocking how many people just decide to go somewhere, book and don’t even check the documents. My mother booked a once in a lifetime trip 2-3 years ago when there were still Covid restrictions etc. It was much cheap(er) as the trip was happening the following week. Her passport had expired the year before!

No sympathy for your mum then, did she end up going in the end?

I guess it's like when people don't do travel insurance either....

Trickabrick · 21/12/2024 19:19

Not sure why there’s so many posters posting multiple times on this thread just to have a go at the OP, get a life! People make mistakes all the time - overlook something they should check, mis-remember information they thought they knew etc. FWIW, I know two very capable, organised and intelligent people who fell foul of the passport rules, it happens to the best of us.

OP it’s gutting when it sounds like you’ve been having a tough time if it already. I hope the rest of you still have a lovely time.

Mademetoxic · 21/12/2024 19:17

Shopgirl1 · 21/12/2024 19:12

What is there to stop you doing that with 6 months left on your passport?

so you're more easily traced I guess.

JustHoldOnOneMinute · 21/12/2024 19:17

niadainud · 21/12/2024 19:15

I don't understand the logic here. Yes, if you were booking somewhere that required a visa that the other passengers might not be aware of, or if you were booking a surprise trip, but if you agree to be part of a holiday abroad I think the onus is on you to make sure your passport is valid.

Do you expect the person who made the booking to make sure you get to the airport on time and tell you to pack clean underwear as well? Not unless you're their child, I wouldn't have thought.

Edited

I think it is just unlucky timing. He's 18. Last time his passport expired, he would have been 8. Next time he'll be 28. He's dropped the ball because he's new to being responsible for it and it probably never occurred to him.

jinglejanglejo · 21/12/2024 19:17

God. Kick the Op more you bunch of miserable sods.

Have a brilliant time, Op. You may have overlooked a passport date but at least you're not a cunt.

niadainud · 21/12/2024 19:15

Soontobe60 · 21/12/2024 18:36

The thing is, whoever booked the trip should tell all passengers to check their passports before booking. So if you were booking for him, you should have asked him to check his passport. But hindsight is a great thing. I’m afraid he's not going to be joining you and you will forfeit the cost of his ticket.

I don't understand the logic here. Yes, if you were booking somewhere that required a visa that the other passengers might not be aware of, or if you were booking a surprise trip, but if you agree to be part of a holiday abroad I think the onus is on you to make sure your passport is valid.

Do you expect the person who made the booking to make sure you get to the airport on time and tell you to pack clean underwear as well? Not unless you're their child, I wouldn't have thought.

Shopgirl1 · 21/12/2024 19:12

Mademetoxic · 21/12/2024 19:01

Because you could just go AWOL in a country and not come back?

What is there to stop you doing that with 6 months left on your passport?