Help! Travelling Monday - Passport Expiry.

This is actually true of the UK as well - foreign visitors’ passport just needs to be valid through the length of their stay.

Yeah you DO usually have to present passport details when you book

I have never had to enter passport details at the point of booking most trips. It's only at the point of check in that's it's required, or when adding advanced passenger information for some countries. Thy is is almost always after booking however.

To think that you can go somewhere with less than 3 weeks left on your passport is ridiculous

To be fair for some countries you don't need behind your return date.
The Us and Canada, for example, don't require additional time iirr.

This. I'm sorry this has happened OP. I can completely see how this could have been overlooked with everything else going on. I hope you still manage to have a lovely time.

I know others have answered but most have missed the point. It's so that if your journey home is delayed, you're not staying in the country with an expired passport. You might think a three month window is a ridiculous margin when you can normally just get a flight the next day, but huge delays can happen. Look at this ship that was stuck with hundreds of passengers on board for four months after the planned departure!

www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8ely932d64o

You can’t enter the eu but you are allowed to travel into the uk on a British passport up to the expiry date so the poster was correct

to reduce the risk of you overstaying beyond the validity date

I never enter passport details on booking. You normally have to do advanced passenger information at some point or upon check in but that normally a few days/ weeks before a trip.
I travel quite a lot.

It means it's easier to get shot of people if they overstay. Standard on-entry permission (no advance visa required) is often either 3 or 6 months, so countries want your passport still to be valid at the end of that time.

I'm sorry some people are being so bitchy. Have a great time, and bring the lad back a nice present

Gosh what a shame, but good he’s being so mature about it, Op.

I am old enough to remember the rules being much laxer. I did once forget my passport when flying with work, luckily my work photo ID was accepted by the airport as the rules just required a photo id for a UK flight. Even for a domestic flight I’m not sure one would get away with that now!

Why is his mum responsible for your travel arrangements? Surely you entered all the details on the bookimg form when you booked?

Unless hes a legal resident of an eu country he wont be allowed to travel.

No you don't, not if you have a British passport.

OP, I'm sorry you've had such sneery answers on your thread. Have a good time on Monday, and lesson learnt!

You’re right. They do not spell out that (or any) very specific reason why someone might need to renew a passport with a day’s notice yet not qualify for the existing emergency options available for people needing to travel for unforeseen events like illness and death. I’m sure they were really only thinking of all the people booking international holidays a day or two out.

Depending on how complicated it would be to leave him on his own in Folkestone for the day if he is denied entry, you could also consider just going along and hoping they either don't notice or take pity on him/you. The new automatic EU system (EES) isn't working yet and the officers with stamps process a lot of passports. So I think that it's not guaranteed that they will deny him entry, especially if you show day return tickets. You would obviously need a solid plan B in case if they do say no, of course.

I bet it wasn't ORIGINALLY set up for people who CBA to check if their passport was in date when they booked their holiday though! It's just for people who want to travel very soon - and need a passport quickly.

That link doesn't say that the fast track is for that. Nowhere does it say 'for people who didn't have the foresight to check their passport end date!!!'

You dont need passport details to book a holiday. You only need them when inputting API at a later date

Yeah you DO usually have to present passport details when you book - so, (as I said earlier,) I can't figure out how so many people (on MUMSNET) seem to book holidays, and then discover their passport is out of date just a few DAYS before the holiday.

Actually no. There’s an entirely separate service for people who need to travel for things like medical emergencies and deaths.

https://www.gov.uk/get-a-passport-urgently

This option was probably created for people who suddenly need to travel abroad in an emergency, (and they discover their passport has expired!)

I doubt very much that it was set up for people who couldn't be bothered to check the end date of their passport before booking a family holiday. 🙄

(I mean clearly people DO use it for that reason sometimes, but I doubt it was set up for that reason!)

Yes. I often arrange holidays for groups of friends and ask them to send photos of their passports if I don’t already have them. Usually you have to enter the details on the airlines computer system.

Obviously OP wasn’t travelling by air but I still would have asked. My job involves having to be super organised like this so it’s automatic probably!!