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Paying £1000 for a backyard bred puppy...

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Cartwrightandson · 21/12/2024 12:32

Neighbours have 2 girl dogs who they don't walk and they've had 19 puppies between them. The dogs are bred every heat cycle so they're making nearly 40k a year, they aren't registered breeders and don't declare the income for tax. The money goes on new kitchen, bathroom, wood panelling on walls in social housing, white SUV, decking, caravan, investments ect

And before any goes well how do you know they don't walk them...they leave at 5.30 am and and yet back at 4ish, no walking happens, the dogs poo in their back garden. It's been noted by other neighbours that the dogs aren't walked. They leave the girl dogs on their own regardless whether of not they've recently given birth or about to go into labour. They also used leave their 6 and 10 year old at 5.30 and a neighbour would take them to school at 8.30

Dogs have been barking/yapping through the night..waking us up at 3am. Out in the garden at 4am barking..this has been going on since 2018 charging £350 for jack Russell puppies to £1500 in recent years.

So why are people turning up today to collect a £1000 backyard bred puppy? It's mum had puppies 6 months ago and will be bred yet again in 6 months time. They aren't loved family pets, but cash cows.

But...but...but the breeder is friendly and responsive, the puppies are healthy and dnso cute and they've had their vaccines and the place is clean (they hoover and clean before you arrive).

Absolutely lunacy. Sheer madness, none of the dogs are KC registered and what vet is ok with a girl dog being bred every 6 months, from the age of 6/7 months. In total they've probably sold over 80 puppies since 2018

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iwasntexpectingthatoops · 22/12/2024 23:24

Meh, I don't believe this for one second. You can only sell a certain amount of animals on selling pages per year now.

Also, comments saying report to the housing. For what?

oakleaffy · 22/12/2024 23:20

JubileeJuice · 21/12/2024 12:57

This simply isn't true. Most reputable breeders actually charge less for their puppies than BYB and puppy farmers do. However , there are usually long waiting lists, and they don't advertise, so the lazy/thick/impatient will go to a BYB rather than wait, do their research and get a well bred dog.

Absolutely true!
A friend bought a pedigree puppy for £900
KC reg.

Wonderful temperament, ( I bought a sibling as well, we ordered before they were even conceived as the person only has one litter every 3 years

Friend’s puppy has lovely conformation and qualified for crufts on her very first show.

My girl is too narrow and has comedy ears for conventional shows , but is a therapy dog.
Superb temperament-

Also the person who bred them
will take back any dog she has bred for ANY reason, at any age.
She is as good as her word as had taken back two over the last 20 or so years and found good homes with people she knows well for them.

oakleaffy · 22/12/2024 23:06

Whyherewego · 21/12/2024 12:48

Honestly your best bet is to tip off HMRC ! I doubt Rspca will do anything from what I've heard

This.
Bet they aren’t paying any tax on those dogs.

So cruel as well.

MyPithyPoster · 22/12/2024 23:06

HMRC, won’t do anything. I found my ex-husband’s website detailing all of their activities that they don’t declare including numbers.
2 1/2 grand for a cat with no hair looks like something out of ET
Anyway, HMRC have not given them a bill otherwise I would’ve been the 1st to know. Because it would only be me that would grass them up.

Gingerkittykat · 22/12/2024 23:04

Report them to their landlord for noise nuisance and it might get the ball rolling for some action against them.

XenoBitch · 22/12/2024 22:44

You seem to know a lot about the specifics.. as in the amount of puppies, the money, what they spend it on etc. And it does not add up.
What is your intention here?
If you think they are doing something wrong, then no need to post on MN with dubious figures.

TwinklyOrca · 22/12/2024 14:09

Report to the council, they will need a licence & a vet will come and do an inspection of the property.
btw no vet would be happy with this, but equally, no vet can do anything about this, unless they report to the council - they could be using various vets so they don’t get picked up for multiple litters.

TiramisuCheesecake · 22/12/2024 14:04

There's a plethora of beautiful dogs and cats wondering how the hell they ended up where they are.

Well no. Because dogs and cats don't have that level of thought processing and intelligence.

Butchyrestingface · 22/12/2024 13:55

Twitwootoo · 21/12/2024 14:02

How do you know they don’t pay tax?

I always wonder at the level of detail people like the OP know about their neighbours. 😐

Still, it doesn't sound like a nice life for the dogs (or anyone living next door to them) so a phone call to animals services would be apposite.

Gingernaut · 22/12/2024 13:55

HMRC - unearned undeclared income, obviously

Universal Credit - even those on full time wages claim benefits and I'll bet they are not declaring this unearned extra income

Action Fraud - Not very effective, but they are misrepresenting animals for sale as well cared for and healthy

Environmental Health - that amount of dog muck is not sanitary

RSPCA - they'll probably do nothing, but you've voiced your concerns about animal welfare

If they are breeding a specific breed of dog and claiming they are 'pedigree', you might want to get on to the Kennel Club

Growsomeballswoman · 22/12/2024 13:50

Inform the HA

showmethegin · 22/12/2024 12:23

Sounds like a shit situation for the dogs, not nice.

The fact they have wood panelling up in the GASP social housing is really neither here nor there

Twitwootoo · 21/12/2024 14:02

How do you know they don’t pay tax?

wetotter · 21/12/2024 13:50

It's quite likely that for the frequency and regularity with which they produce puppies for sale that they should be licenced - it could be classed as a business

This will however make very little difference to the life of the poor brood bitches

Dog breeding licensing: statutory guidance for local authorities - GOV.UK

JRTs are hardly ever KC registered (KC only started registering them a couple of years ago, and most people aren't bothered about KC standards for this breed)

Fireworknight · 21/12/2024 13:50

Report them!

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 21/12/2024 13:46

Agree numbers don’t add up.

report to HMRC. Are they breeding enough to need a license? If so report to the council.

I have met a backyard breeder who really didn’t respect her dogs and I wish I’d reported her (she moved away from our area and not sure if she’s still in the business).

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 21/12/2024 13:41

@Cartwrightandson and you can most certainly inform the hmrc about their unearned income!!! 19 grand extra!!! jeez!!

LoftyTealSwan · 21/12/2024 13:38

Just get them stolen by someone

ginasevern · 21/12/2024 13:37

@ComtesseDeSpair

"rescue centres are often full of the sorts of dogs nobody really wants as pets, and full of dogs which have been given up because they’re “reactive” (read: aggressive) or not good with children or other pets."

Please don't perpetrate this notion. Rescue centres are not full of aggressive or difficult dogs. Dogs, and cats, are given up or abandoned for a whole host of reasons. Many of the pedigree dogs bought as puppies in the pandemic (by feckless idiots who thought they were buying a fluffy toy) have now been dumped at rescue centres. Likewise the cost of living crises has seen an unprecendented amount of loving family pets handed into rescue centres. Often people move to rented accommodation where pets aren't allowed and sometimes owners die too. It's heartbreaking. There's a plethora of beautiful dogs and cats wondering how the hell they ended up where they are.

Anotherparkingthread · 21/12/2024 13:37

They've had 19 puppies at the start of your post then 80 at the end? Yet they are making 40k a year so at 1k each they are having 40 pups a year? For 6 months for 2 years?

Yeah sorry sounds like some attempt at rage bait post. Numbers don't add up at all.

RunningJo · 21/12/2024 13:27

Report them. Call the council, the RSPCA.
Continuously breeding dogs is appalling, even more if they female dogs are so young themselves.

More rules need to be in place to stop shitty people doing it purely to make money.

Liquorish · 21/12/2024 13:21

God those poor dogs. They can’t be allowed to get away with that. You have to report.

hoarahloux · 21/12/2024 13:13

Contact your council. They're illegal breeders.

TiramisuCheesecake · 21/12/2024 13:08

Report to RSCPA and HMRC. And the Council/housing association.

DaringLion · 21/12/2024 13:07

Those poor dogs being bred every season is fucking horrendous