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Mother in law thinks formula is poison

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curiouslycoy · 21/12/2024 11:58

I am now combi feeding my 12 week old.

Have to face mother in law next week and DH suggested we just sneak around hiding formula and making it upstairs out of view pretending I am feeding up there.

I am at the point where I don't see why I should have to, it's my baby, my decision but I know it's going to go down like a lead balloon.

We have another DC and last time we did sneak around with formula as only 2 feeds over night were foruma, but this time it's also one morning feed and one afternoon feed.

I didn't continue EBF for a number of reasons and am much, much happier as a result.

How do I handle this? She is mid 70s incredibly old fashioned views and makes no secret of how much she hates it. Borderline refused to ever look after DC1 as couldn't bring herself to prepare formula.....

No mum wants to be judged and I know I will be and by her much older daughter whose children are grown up but breastfed her DCs until they were over 1.

For the record DC1 was almost EBF for 12 weeks with supplement of formula towards the end, then was combi fed until 5 months before EFF.

DC2 was EBF for 7 weeks then the 10/11pm feed became formula followed by 5/6pm feed and now 10am feed. BF at 7am, 2pm and 4am.

I intend to keep up at least 1 BF feed until DC is 5 months like DC1.

How do I handle this? Give my list of excuses, sneak around or just say it's my choice and shut it down. Any other suggestions? Or AIBU to even combi feed my baby who is still so young in any case?

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LoyalTaupeTiger · 22/12/2024 21:03

Just say to her " this is my child, and this is how I choose to feed her. You had your child, and you chose how to feed them. Please stop now"

Makingchocolatecake · 22/12/2024 21:01

Tell her if she feels so strongly she is welcome to bf dc herself... oh wait, she can't!

rainbowsparkle28 · 22/12/2024 19:43

Why on earth is he (and you!) enabling his mother's ridiculousness and not telling her to get lost. I would be fuming. Absolutely do not sneak around - how dare she make you feel you have to do so in your own home. At a minimum your partner should be telling her in no uncertain terms that it is none of her business, the only person it concerns how your baby is fed is that baby's parents. Both of you should be very clear with her that if she is to comment on how your baby is fed at all then she is not welcome. And mean it. If she mentions it you state dead pan voice that you are not discussing it and she needs to stop or she is welcome to leave. And if she continues - again - follow through and remind her you have already told her and for her to go.

Mamasperspective · 22/12/2024 19:37

"MIL I appreciate that you have an opinion but your unsolicited advice is not required. It's not anyone's business how I choose to feed the baby I have given birth to. You think formula is poison, I completely disagree. Kindly change the subject because I refuse to debate any parenting decisions with you going forward - my decision has been made and it is final. Should you continue on this topic then we will be forced to leave and take an extended break from visiting again"

Cherrysoup · 22/12/2024 19:37

Maboscelar · 21/12/2024 14:03

DH needs to talk to her before she comes.

"Mum, I wanted to let you know that we are combi feeding baby and I know your opinions on formula but I don't want you to make any comments about it while you're visiting. We've made the decision that's best for us and we are happy with it. Looking forward to seeing you"

I did this with my dad when I had tattoos and was going on holiday with him so he was going to see them. He's a notoriously opinionated man but he kept his mouth shut.

Absolutely. And he needs to shut down any comments/eye rolling and tell her she and her shitty comments are not welcome.

I’ve written about this on here before, a family member was told by her midwife that her ds was getting enough ebf, baby was so dehydrated he had a stroke. Midwife has been struck off, child has just gone to secondary. He will have lifelong issues. Ebf does not necessarily work for everyone and I don’t think anyone should be giving opinions on others. I wouldn’t irl.

She can keep your opinions to yourself and button your lip. She’s already made her unwanted opinion clear last time, no need for it to be voiced again. You certainly shouldn’t be sneaking around in your own house, or anywhere else for that matter!

theotherfossilsister · 22/12/2024 19:35

Formula is a miraculous invention which has saved millions of babies. My mother was like your mil but my baby needed formula to not die, so we fed him. I think the all or nothing approach really screws up breastfeeding for so many women. Combi feeding is fantastic and should be celebrated. Sorry you’re going through this

Wells37 · 22/12/2024 19:33

Your husband needs to talk to her before, and tell her in no uncertain terms is she to even mention it unless it's something positive.

2025willbemytime · 22/12/2024 19:30

She barely looked at your baby because you gave them formula? If that was my MIL she'd have been lucky to see them for a while. Do not sneak around. You have to advocate for your child, own your own decisions and be a fully grown adult. Now's a good time to start making sure she knows you're not a child to be dictated to or treated badly for making am perfectly reasonable decision on how to feed YOUR baby.

Needmorelego · 22/12/2024 19:28

@Pottedpalm yes by the 70s the tinned would have gone out of favour. The 60s not so much.
Many women follow what their mothers and grandmothers have done before.

Pottedpalm · 22/12/2024 19:25

Needmorelego · 22/12/2024 13:15

@Blossomtoes pre WW2 many working class mothers returned to work in factories when their babies were just a couple of months old so breast feeding stopped.
Fresh milk was not always available (or they didn't have fridges to safely store it) so many babies and children only ever had tinned milk (often called 'Conny Onny" in some parts of the country). A huge amount of city children only had their first taste of actual fresh milk when they were evacuated to the countryside in '39.
Those who became mothers in the 60s/70s would have had that as a child so would then give it to their babies rather than the powdered formula milk because they considered it normal (and "well that's what I had and I turned out fine").
It wasn't necessarily approved of by Health Visitors etc but it did happen.
Sorry that was meant for @Pottedpalm rather than @Blossomtoes .

Edited

But we are not talking about pre WW2 here; the MiL is 75 so born in 1950 and unlikely to have had children until the early 70s

teatoast8 · 22/12/2024 19:11

VegTrug · 22/12/2024 18:49

@teatoast8 As I said, I'll take the professional opinion of a paediatric Professor over someone on Mumsnet, thanks 👍🏻🤣

Well they're wrong 😊

VegTrug · 22/12/2024 19:10

pointythings · 22/12/2024 18:54

@VegTrug your professor is just one person (who is wrong). Scientific consensus does not agree with him. A quick Google will tell you as much - here is an article to get you started.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4882692/

I don't need your spammy links nor do I need to 'get started' on your nonsense thanks! ☺️ All of his colleagues agreed as did DD's doctors so I'll stick with their professional opinion thanks!

Flann3l · 22/12/2024 18:56

pointythings · 22/12/2024 18:42

@Flann3l I agree with you. My very middle class mother was actively discouraged from breastfeeding, though she very much wanted to, and it's likely that the pressure exerted on her led to her not being able to. I was born in 1968.

So was I!😊

VegTrug · 22/12/2024 18:51

@Tired88p85 What are your medical qualifications please?

VegTrug · 22/12/2024 18:50

@jellybe Again, I think the Paediatric professor knows what he's talking about!
Also, all I've done is quote someone else. Do NOT tell me what I can & cannot say. That is not your job.

VegTrug · 22/12/2024 18:49

@teatoast8 As I said, I'll take the professional opinion of a paediatric Professor over someone on Mumsnet, thanks 👍🏻🤣

pointythings · 22/12/2024 18:42

@Flann3l I agree with you. My very middle class mother was actively discouraged from breastfeeding, though she very much wanted to, and it's likely that the pressure exerted on her led to her not being able to. I was born in 1968.

Flann3l · 22/12/2024 17:57

BIossomtoes · 22/12/2024 12:42

Evaporated milk was just beginning to be replaced by formula and breast feeding was discouraged.

That’s utter nonsense. Breast feeding has never been discouraged, it’s never been so disapproved of to bottle feed as it is now. Babies in the UK tended to be fed National Dried Milk from the 40s to the early 70s.

Wiki disagrees with you and is what the females in my family experienced:-

“Breastfeeding in the Western world declined significantly from the late 1800s to the 1960s.[23]One of the causes was an increased reliance on pasteurized milk and baby formula products, which were regarded as acceptable substitutes by upwardly mobile mothers.[24] By the 1950s, the predominant attitude to breastfeeding was that it was something practiced by the uneducated and those of lower classes. The practice was considered old-fashioned and "a little disgusting" for those who could not afford infant formula and discouraged by medical practitioners and media of the time.”

History and culture of breastfeeding - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_and_culture_of_breastfeeding#cite_note-24

Honeycrisp · 22/12/2024 17:36

SouthLondonMum22 · 22/12/2024 17:23

From birth? I have.

It’s definitely more acceptable to have at least ‘tried’. It’s even been mentioned a few times on this thread too.

Oh yes, that is very definitely A Thing on here. Sometimes it's outright criticism, sometimes it's head tilty can't possibly understand why someone wouldn't even try.

The reality is that there's a lot of social variation when it comes to this kind of thing, and the IRL circles people move in will make a difference. The main thing to take away is that none of it is acceptable.

SouthLondonMum22 · 22/12/2024 17:23

teatoast8 · 22/12/2024 15:04

I've never seen anyone get disproved for formula feeding.

From birth? I have.

It’s definitely more acceptable to have at least ‘tried’. It’s even been mentioned a few times on this thread too.

LookItsMeAgain · 22/12/2024 16:07

Your DH tells his mother that the decision on when and how and what to feed his child(ren) are between him and you and if she wants to be included in anything relating to his child(ren) again, she had better keep her opinions to herself.

Why is it up to YOU on how to deal with this? He is the one that should be putting a stop to her comments from the get go. You go ahead and feed your baby what you want, when you want and how you want. Refer any issues to your DH.

FadedRed · 22/12/2024 15:11

Bananalanacake · 21/12/2024 12:04

Crikey, what a PITA she sounds, someone needs to post that sign that says 'Magic spell for dealing with unwanted opinions - tell them to fuck off'.

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Mother in law thinks formula is poison
Needmorelego · 22/12/2024 15:09

@teatoast8 I have pretty much found no one actually cares if a baby is bottle or breast fed (except the parents obviously).
When I went to baby groups and while there some mums were breast feeding and some bottle feeding and I don't think it even came up in conversations.

teatoast8 · 22/12/2024 15:04

SouthLondonMum22 · 22/12/2024 14:44

I think breastfeeding rates would be higher if mothers who want to breastfeed got the correct support they needed.

The vast majority of mothers start off breastfeeding.

It definitely isn’t “approved” of to formula feeding from birth.

I've never seen anyone get disproved for formula feeding.