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To ask how long you should spend in a job?

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whatareyoudoinghere · 21/12/2024 11:03

I’ve had a lot of changes in my working life and currently am doing my longest stint, which is three and a half years. Before that I only managed a maximum of two years.

I am wondering whether to apply for another role but on balance wondering if it’s better to stay longer. Or if it really doesn’t matter. I am a teacher.

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whatareyoudoinghere · 21/12/2024 17:25

I mean, from my point of view I have had quite a few posters be quite - not exactly rude, but have taken a certain amount of enjoyment or schadenfreude I’d say in telling me they’d never employ me, that as a governor (lol) they would put my application in the bin … but this is the opposite of my experience in real life where I’ve never had any trouble being shortlisted or appointed.

I genuinely didn’t and don’t mind at all ‘if I were you I’d stay put for a while’ - it’s the pleasure that some have taken in telling me I’m doomed that’s a bit annoying. I really don’t think I’ve been ‘pissy’ though, just tried to keep people on track so to speak.

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whatareyoudoinghere · 21/12/2024 17:17

Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 21/12/2024 16:20

Those of us with experience in teacher recruitment are not uninformed...quote the opposite. And given that is the industry the OP os in and has asked advice on, we are the people who actually have the most relevant opinions for her.

Unfortunately as with most AIBU the op has got pissy when people have given their view based on the information she has provided.

The OP hasn’t got pissy at all!

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AllProperTeaIsTheft · 21/12/2024 16:52

I've been a teacher for 30 years. Longest I've stayed in a school is 10 years. There's no 'should' about it. If you're happy, stay. If you're not (or if you're looking for something different out of a school or a different role), leave.

Moonshinebaby · 21/12/2024 16:47

As long as the job serves you.

I currently work from home 5 days a week and the pay is great, so I will try to hold on to that job as long as possible.

Other jobs I have left after a year

AquaPeer · 21/12/2024 16:33

Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 21/12/2024 16:20

Those of us with experience in teacher recruitment are not uninformed...quote the opposite. And given that is the industry the OP os in and has asked advice on, we are the people who actually have the most relevant opinions for her.

Unfortunately as with most AIBU the op has got pissy when people have given their view based on the information she has provided.

Think poster was suggesting you may have the knowledge and experience but that the sector is old fashioned and slow to embrace diversity which is fair. Education is easily 20 years behind other sectors in these respects

roses2 · 21/12/2024 16:21

My rule is until I am no longer happy.

I've been in my current job 7.5 years. All previous jobs I was there 4 years each. I'm 47.

Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 21/12/2024 16:20

dynamiccactus · 21/12/2024 16:12

I would have thought that tech was somewhere where you needed to move on quite frequently - either for a promotion or because a lot of jobs are for projects and so end after a comparatively short time.

As someone who has moved on more than once due to personality clashes and face not fitting, and my maximum time in one job was 5.5 years, I am not judgmental of those who move frequently - two years seems fine to me - six months less so. But in teaching people might expect you to stick around for a bit longer.

Those of you who say alarm bells ring need to revisit your diversity training - neurodiverse people tend to move on more quickly.

And some people DO relocate every two years (or so)! For example the Government Legal Service Civil service moves people very three years.

There is a lot of uninformed prejudice on here.

Those of us with experience in teacher recruitment are not uninformed...quote the opposite. And given that is the industry the OP os in and has asked advice on, we are the people who actually have the most relevant opinions for her.

Unfortunately as with most AIBU the op has got pissy when people have given their view based on the information she has provided.

Oopah · 21/12/2024 16:20

Around every 2-3 years normally, I’ve found it’s best for best for pay jumps and promotions and isn’t uncommon in my industry.

ColinOfficeTrolley · 21/12/2024 16:16

Someone I work with has been at our company for 44 years.

I will be there until I retire (final salary pension, which I will not be giving up) which means I will be there for 26 years (god willing, unless I win the lottery)

dynamiccactus · 21/12/2024 16:12

jeaux90 · 21/12/2024 11:10

Depends on the job, I like to see 4 years in some CVs in roles at least. Job hopping every two years raises the alarm for me but I'm in tech might be different in other industries

I would have thought that tech was somewhere where you needed to move on quite frequently - either for a promotion or because a lot of jobs are for projects and so end after a comparatively short time.

As someone who has moved on more than once due to personality clashes and face not fitting, and my maximum time in one job was 5.5 years, I am not judgmental of those who move frequently - two years seems fine to me - six months less so. But in teaching people might expect you to stick around for a bit longer.

Those of you who say alarm bells ring need to revisit your diversity training - neurodiverse people tend to move on more quickly.

And some people DO relocate every two years (or so)! For example the Government Legal Service Civil service moves people very three years.

There is a lot of uninformed prejudice on here.

AquaPeer · 21/12/2024 16:07

The impression I had was there is such a shortage of teachers that schools didn’t have the luxury of worrying about things like this.

I think the issue is you really need a long tenure on your cv- 6 years or similar. Staying for 3 rather than 2 doesn’t reallly change the story your cv tells

Clarinet1 · 21/12/2024 16:02

What is it you think you could improve by moving? Easier commute, different responsibilities, more money would all be valid reasons. However if you are just finding the current school difficult could you proactively make some changes? On the other hand, if you decide to apply for other things, perhaps be ready with a convincing reply to the questions about frequent moves and about what you are looking for now. For instance, if you have been a head of department in the past, and apply for that kind of role, say how you miss the overall shaping of the department or something like that.

Here4thechocs · 21/12/2024 15:59

I think moving around jobs is largely dependent on the sort of job you have & or, industry. I work in transportation for instance.. not sure where wise I’d rather move to.

Oblomov24 · 21/12/2024 15:57

7 years, 13 years, 3 years. Current job 1 year.

Of you are moving for promotions, or are young, every 2 years is fine. But maybe once you find something you like, longer, say 5 years, to show a future recruiter you also have stick ability.

BlackChunkyBoots · 21/12/2024 15:37

23 years in one job. The pay & pension are too good to leave. Public sector transport. I can't find an equivalent job with similar benefits anywhere else.

If I could take a pay cut, I'd leave tomorrow.

Gordonramsayatemyhomework · 21/12/2024 15:35

I move jobs every 2-3 years due to boredom but cover it up on my CV by saying I've been working in fixed term contracts.

stargirl1701 · 21/12/2024 15:34

I'm a teacher in Scotland. 25 years service with one employer...

okydokethen · 21/12/2024 15:26

I'm in a similar stress level and pay level job - social worker. Longest I've stayed in a role in 14 years is 3 years. I've found it hard to juggle work and childcare and have hopped around looking for more money and more flexibility.
I really want to find a job I could stay 20 years in but I just can't in reality see myself staying put, I get bored easily.

AgricolaOrBed · 21/12/2024 13:45

As an employer, your history of moving so often would be a massive red flag to me as it suggests you can’t hold down a job (even if that’s not the reason). It will damage your prospects.

Printedword · 21/12/2024 13:12

With any role that's enjoyable and successful for me, I'd only be doing less than 5 years unless promotion, redundancy, necessary geographical move, children or elder concerns, illness. Just wouldn't look otherwise. Under 5 years is often not moving for career purposes and will look like that on a cv

Neverflyingagain · 21/12/2024 13:11

I think being in a teaching job for such a short time is odd, but maybe that's because it's not my experience.
The shortest time for me in one job was 3 years. I've been teaching for almost 30 years and am used to staying in a job long enough that I see children go right through school!
One HT said to me that it takes 3 years in one year group to become good at it. First year everything's new and tricky, 2nd year you sort the mistakes, 3rd year you enjoy it. I think that's true for being in a new school too.
As a panel member, I'd be wanting to know why you'd moved so frequently (it's not unusual for forces spouses to move every 2-3 years, for example).
Yes, it costs a lot to recruit but if I'm going to get 2 years of fabulousness then it's worth it.

whatareyoudoinghere · 21/12/2024 13:10

cariadlet · 21/12/2024 13:08

I'm a teacher and have been in my school for about 30 years. I have never been interested in moving onto management and there have been enough changes over that time to mean that I have never been bored. Moving schools for the sake of it has always seemed pointless.

At my school, there are other teachers who have also been here for many years. Those who move on are most often moving for promotion, sometimes because of relocation, or - less often - because the school doesn't suit them.

I don't think there's anything wrong with occasionally only staying in a school for a couple of years but if it becomes a pattern, it would raise alarm bells.

I remember you from TES, I think, when cariadlet was a toddler!

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cariadlet · 21/12/2024 13:08

I'm a teacher and have been in my school for about 30 years. I have never been interested in moving onto management and there have been enough changes over that time to mean that I have never been bored. Moving schools for the sake of it has always seemed pointless.

At my school, there are other teachers who have also been here for many years. Those who move on are most often moving for promotion, sometimes because of relocation, or - less often - because the school doesn't suit them.

I don't think there's anything wrong with occasionally only staying in a school for a couple of years but if it becomes a pattern, it would raise alarm bells.

RobbingBanks · 21/12/2024 13:04

whatareyoudoinghere · 21/12/2024 12:38

@ComtesseDeSpair i know but (and this will sound horrible) I’m not asking for your personal view. And I have been in my current role three and a half years; go me. It took until I was forty but I did get there!

What I am wondering is whether to stick at current job longer even though it is pretty rubbish or whether to look elsewhere. I know you probably don’t mean it to but I do feel a bit like I’m having to justify myself.

If you are not happy in your job, then start looking for another job.

Has there been a change of management? Is that why the workload/behaviour has changed?

Startingagainandagain · 21/12/2024 13:03

It completely depend on the industry, the job and the organisation...

I have worked for charities for a long time and they tend to have high staff turnover because often the pay is low and opportunities for pay rises/promotion are limited.

My current charity has the worst staff turnover I have ever seen!

I have been there for two years and I want to move on.

In that sector it is completely normal for people to move on after 1 or 2 years. Front-line staff especially have case loads that are way to high and end up burning out.

In the end you have to do what is best for you and your career, if a job does not pay well or give opportunities for promotion or offer something specific like flexible hours/remote working as a perk, I can completely understand why someone would leave.

As a hiring manager myself, it would not bother me.

Many employers have little long term commitment to employees these days, and would make you redundant without a second thought if they needed to, so I don't see why employees should not take the same approach.

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