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To be dreading the holiday

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nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 01:28

I broke up today. Kids off for two weeks. They go to private day nursery but because of the days they do (Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays) they are in Monday and then that’s it, because Wednesday is of course Christmas Day and nursery is closed for a week so the next day they are in is Friday 3rd January.

And I know I’m going to be roasted like the turkey for this but I’m dreading it. Two weeks where I won’t get a single break from them, in the house they fight and whine and the youngest follows me round crying to be picked up all the time. Feeding them is increasingly expensive and challenging. Entertaining them is a nightmare, I’ve booked a few things but everything is so expensive again with a Christmas premium on it, I know I’ll get told to ‘just take them to the park’ but please don’t: parks are absolutely lethal with a completely fearless preschooler and a cheery but clueless toddler: slippy equipment the slip on and smash their chins open (ask me how I know) so soft play it is, again and again and again.

But it’s the day in day out nature of it. It’s knackering and two full weeks of it is hideous. And expensive. And help me

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nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 09:24

PicturePlace · 21/12/2024 09:20

Eh?

So if you don’t understand, a previous poster was lamenting how did we all manage before soft play and it used to be the case that from a fairly young age children would ‘play out’ with one another and would not be as reliant on parents for entertainment.

Obviously not the case for every child / family but on a societal level I don’t think anyone would argue this is true. It had upsides but also was rather dangerous if you look at the stats.

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PicturePlace · 21/12/2024 09:20

nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 08:12

how the hell did we manage

By having kids go out and entertain themselves largely, often with disastrous results.

Eh?

fishyrumour · 21/12/2024 09:18

Nothatgingerpirate · 21/12/2024 09:10

No need to swear like this at the poster!
My mother's kid also turned out exemplary!
😂

Haha! I beg to differ. Sometimes it's well deserved.

Your perfect parents obviously didn't teach you or the PP that smugness is an unpleasant trait.

😜

Blondeshavemorefun · 21/12/2024 09:17

Do you not have any friends with kids to meet up /come over

Dh needs to man up as well

nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 09:16

PicturePlace · 21/12/2024 09:11

In the gentlest was possible, you are rejecting all the good suggestions here as not possible. Of course you can do crafting with your kids. I recognise the reactions you are having here (and the way you describe your children and your husband) as symptoms of depression. Can you see a GP over the Christmas break? It really isn't normal to dread spending time with your children or to have a "this couldn't possibly work" reaction to every suggestion. There is a better life for you with treatment, it doesn't have to be like this.

You don’t have to be gentle. No one is rejecting anything. I posted saying I was dreading the holiday so pardon me if I’m not in spasms of joy at the thought of doing Christmas crafts neither child cares about, would fill no time at all but would make a mess I would have to clear up. A lot of these ‘snuggle under a blanket and watch a film / do Christmas decorations/ walk in the woods’ are based on ideals and not reality. I mean, the woods are flooded and like a quagmire for starters.

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GeorgeA12 · 21/12/2024 09:15

EatingHealthy · 21/12/2024 05:52

Why did you have children if you don't even want to spend two weeks with them?

Cause nobody tells you how difficult it is, and if they did you wouldn't believe them.

PicturePlace · 21/12/2024 09:14

What a load of rubbish, not bothering to get him dressed, do his teeth etc is lazy in itself let alone the rest. This is exactly what OP is on about; if she doesn't do these things he doesn't bother and they won't get done.

Well then they won't get done. The world doesn't end because your kid misses a morning of tooth brushing or stays in their pjs for the day. Let the kids have some fun and let the husband mind them in his own way without insisting on doing everything your way. Unclench! Everyone around you will appreciate it.

pandarific · 21/12/2024 09:11

@nonotchristmas sorry op. 💐

two things which got me through lockdown with a baby and toddler:

Bath slime. Put slime in bath, put child in bath, give plastic toys, enjoy 45 mins peace. Turn into real bath afterwards. zimplistore.com/products/glitter-slime-baff-4-use-aqua-orange

One of these. Pushchair haters love them as it’s more like a bike. You can often find them on marketplace. babylove.ie/cdn/shop/files/rowerek-trojkolowy-movi-black-mint_11480_full.jpg?v=1729440017&width=1100

PicturePlace · 21/12/2024 09:11

nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 07:16

Thanks. Putting DH aside for a moment - he isn’t going to change; divorce may be an option but it is also not really just the fact he’s lazy, it’s the fact he’s also working for some of it. He’ll be at work Monday and Tuesday, have Christmas week off then back on the 2nd.

DS just isn’t a crafty kid at all, no interest, making Christmas decorations just doesn’t grab his attention at all. DD would eat everything and have glittery poos. (Which probably would grab DS’s attention.)

Neither have the attention span for a film. I know some children do but not mine.

We do have a local museum so I’ll see what’s on there. Soft play is fine for a couple of days just can’t face it every day!

In the gentlest was possible, you are rejecting all the good suggestions here as not possible. Of course you can do crafting with your kids. I recognise the reactions you are having here (and the way you describe your children and your husband) as symptoms of depression. Can you see a GP over the Christmas break? It really isn't normal to dread spending time with your children or to have a "this couldn't possibly work" reaction to every suggestion. There is a better life for you with treatment, it doesn't have to be like this.

Nothatgingerpirate · 21/12/2024 09:10

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No need to swear like this at the poster!
My mother's kid also turned out exemplary!
😂

HooMoo · 21/12/2024 09:07

Yanbu! I have a very active 11 month old! And it’ll be me and husband and I k ow it’s going to be full on. It’ll be nice to have time with her but also I will miss the break I get when she’s at nursery.

fishyrumour · 21/12/2024 09:06

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MarjorieDanvers · 21/12/2024 09:06

OMG you have my sympathy! Reading your post made me shiver remembering the hell of two under 4 (with Christmas making it worse than usual!).

Crafting - don’t just don’t! 😱! A drive sobbing I recall doing on many occasion! Fuck the expense I back softplay or anything you think might help!

I know this isn’t particularly helpful but it gets much better when they leave home. Although as our baby (now 28) hasn’t quite made the move at least we can leave (our longest was three years - bliss!).

AngelinaFibres · 21/12/2024 09:06

I have my grandchildren frequently ( they're 2 1/2 and 11 months) Big cardboard boxes go down well and entertain them for hours. We've had a huge ( child car seat)one on the go for months. It was a pretend kitchen . Now it's been flipped over and has fairy lights poked through holes in the top and it's a sparkly cave. The older one is very happy lying in it with his assortment of bears and books. Keeps them entertained for ages. I'm 59. I need periods of relative peace and a cup of tea. This helps. Just a thought.
The husband thing is very depressing to hear. Mine was like this. We divorced in the end.

WillowTit · 21/12/2024 09:05

you dont need to spend money,
a playground is ideal
indoors or outdoors

thepariscrimefiles · 21/12/2024 09:05

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 21/12/2024 08:27

nonotchristmas · Today 08:12

how the hell did we manage
By having kids go out and entertain themselves largely, often with disastrous results.

Absolute rubbish!! my kids were never left to entertain themselves. I did things with them which you actually seem unable to do. My kids turned out exemplary. No drugs, no tattoos, no crime activity, good occupations and lovely children!! I was quite a strict parent as regards behaviour and it was instilled in them but they still got freedom to a certain extent. they enjoyed their childhoods!!

Boasting about being the perfect mother to someone who is struggling isn't helpful.

SeNonOraQuando · 21/12/2024 09:03

When mine were little I used to get a couple of memberships to attractions and then go to those places over and over again.

The best one was London Zoo membership. It was expensive but we went so many times, probably once a week on average as I had a day off. The kids loved it and could spend hours there. I didn't even mind it much myself as some of the animals and exhibits were interesting and there were toilets and places you could buy coffee. I would intersperse this with other memberships like Royal palaces for some variety. It was expensive but a fraction of the cost of what all those days out would be. Also then you could just pop in for a couple of hours.

If you have a car could you find a decent kids attraction in your area or within an hour or so and get membership to it? Then you can use it as a filler place you can always go to when the kids are bored at home.

dottydodah · 21/12/2024 09:02

I feel for you ,you sound worn out! I think working FT and having little ones is bloody hard work!I think its a shame your DH is not on board yet .He may improve as DC get older .The local garden centres have FC and ours had a couple of real reindeer! You can grab a coffee or juice for them/ (DC not reindeer!) We live near the beach ,so collecting shells if possible?or a woodland walk, pine cones or small pieces of wood ,get home and paint them ? Mine used to like a drive round to see the "Ho Ho Ho houses " Peoples lights !I think you need to shift down a gear and see what they like to do ,I am an ex Nursery School Teacher and young children are tired after activities in Nursery .They need time to wind down and relax. as do you .

LadyMargaretPoledancer · 21/12/2024 08:59

Building dens is a great idea. Forgot about that. It's amazing what a few sheets and some clothes pegs can do. We used to build a den, do some imagination play and then put on their favourite Cbeebies show so they could play with their duplo in there and watch at the same time. I'd make them a snack tray they could have inside. They loved it. Very simple and effective.

thepariscrimefiles · 21/12/2024 08:57

SweetBobby · 21/12/2024 07:47

I think it's absolutely awful that you dread spending time with your own children to be honest.

And I think it's absolutely awful that you have bothered to post this just to be judgemental and completely unhelpful. How is your post helpful to OP in any way?

Octonaut4Life · 21/12/2024 08:57

A good tip can be to watch a Bluey episode together, then play the game in the episode - loads of them have fun ideas for games in which will keep kids entertained like playing magic xylophone or crazy pillow or whatever. Plus it means you space out the play time with a chance to sit on the sofa (and surely DH could do this too?)

leftorrightnow · 21/12/2024 08:54

Also here’s some things I did w my kids at that age:
lots of Lego duplo
building dens
playing a cardboard boxes (should have loads from Christmas deliberies) ie making them into castles or drawing on them and cutting windows in them
lots of different ball games
messy play like obleck and similar

going nuts with exhaustion and crying while I let them have screen time even though I said I wouldn’t…don’t beat yourself up. A bit extra screen time or buying yourself some rest with snacks won’t harm in the long run. Don’t think you have to be superhuman and ignore all the condescending and judgmental comments. In my experience people who say stuff like what are you complaining about and I never had any issues etc etc either had very easy and privileged situations when their kids were small for one reason or another, have suppressed how hard things really were, or just had very low standards. we all just have vastly different situations in terms of how much the partner helps, the size of our home, if We have access to a garden or nature, if we have family and friends around, if we have local free activities etc. Kids are also different and some are eaiser than others, and we all had different mental and physical health too.

if you’re struggling that’s fair to admit, you have my sympathy and I hope you find ways to get through the holidays, and don’t beat yourself up if the kids or you have some hard system sometimes. Just try again next day and know that kids are resilient and don’t need a picture perfect childhood to grow up just fine.

arcticpandas · 21/12/2024 08:52

YANBU. I love my kids but god knows it was hard when they were younger when I had both of them non stop. Luckily Mil often had one which was a godsend because having one was so easy in comparison. It will get better OP! Just try to wear them out outside so they don't have as much energy left to bicker at home. Also try install different play sets like play dooh, drawing, playmobil, lego, trains and be overly enthusiastic. I started out playing with them and when they were caught in the game I slowly retracted:)

LadyMargaretPoledancer · 21/12/2024 08:52

@nonotchristmas

Firstly ignore the self righteous idiots of this thread with the 'poor children' comments. The fact that they gleefully stick the knife in says more about them than you.

Now, its bloody tough with two that age, no matter what anyone says. So recognising that doesn't make you weak or a bad mum, it makes you a fallible human just like the rest of us.

I remember a Christmas when my mum didn't have long left and was in the hospice, I had two your age and both DH and I had the flu. I was literally on my knees mentally and physically with a big dollop of feeling guilty that the kids wouldn't have a good Christmas. So I just let go and thought just getting through the day was enough. That next Christmas they would be older and it would get better, and it did. So take the mental pressure off yourself. It gets easier with them as they get older so just keep in mind that they won't always be like this.

All I did that Christmas was put back to back films/kids TV on, leave making stuff out and toys to play with, opened snacks and stayed in PJs. I just surrendered. It was an awful Christmas for the adults but the kids didn't notice and they survived.

Obviously your situation is different and a useless DH has to addressed at some point or it will cause long term damage. But for this Christmas, you do have some breaks with family around. Don't be afraid of being vocal in asking for help. It's so isolating trying to do everything yourself. Ask your ILs to entertain the kids, put your DH on the spot to help. Push back, don't take it all on yourself.

Activities to wear them out is the key, walking is a great idea and lots of fresh air. Can your eldest kick a ball? Give DH a ball and send him to thr Park with the eldest.

If you have to go to a soft play then just grit your teeth and use it for all its worth. Anything to keep your sanity.

Try to have a little plan for each day, it will give you routine and shape the day with tasks.

Good luck and keep your chin up. It does get easier.

CrispieCake · 21/12/2024 08:49

Small kids are lots of fun if you have a village.

Less so if even your team-mate abandons the field for the pub at the start of a game and you're left playing on the pitch by yourself, alone.

Sympathies, OP.

Personally, I'd do indoor-outdoor-indoor-outdoor. So soft play - woodland walk - shopping mall - playground and cafe trip.

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