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To be dreading the holiday

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nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 01:28

I broke up today. Kids off for two weeks. They go to private day nursery but because of the days they do (Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays) they are in Monday and then that’s it, because Wednesday is of course Christmas Day and nursery is closed for a week so the next day they are in is Friday 3rd January.

And I know I’m going to be roasted like the turkey for this but I’m dreading it. Two weeks where I won’t get a single break from them, in the house they fight and whine and the youngest follows me round crying to be picked up all the time. Feeding them is increasingly expensive and challenging. Entertaining them is a nightmare, I’ve booked a few things but everything is so expensive again with a Christmas premium on it, I know I’ll get told to ‘just take them to the park’ but please don’t: parks are absolutely lethal with a completely fearless preschooler and a cheery but clueless toddler: slippy equipment the slip on and smash their chins open (ask me how I know) so soft play it is, again and again and again.

But it’s the day in day out nature of it. It’s knackering and two full weeks of it is hideous. And expensive. And help me

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nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 12:07

I have not said it will be hell on earth, I’ve said it will be hard, and it will. Yes, some of you had seven under threes, went to the park every day even when it was flooded: it was jolly japes and little Hattie just loved practicing swimming since you’d never do anything as gauche as pay to go to a swimming pool.

Me, I’m not made as such stern stuff, I do get tired and want / need a break.

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iamawarriorwhojustcrieseasily · 21/12/2024 12:04

I might get flamed for this myself - but Mindset is a thing. You have already decided its going to be horrendous. Therefore it absolutely will be.

There's a chance though, if you planned the break well with some of the fab suggestions on here, sprinkled on some positive thought, and be very firm and clear with DP that you are also having some time to yourself to get organised and do some self care ( don't give him a choice ) ..that it might actually be a very lovely christmas break.

Your kids will also pick up on how you feel, which will then come back to you in their behaviour ten fold.

Cooking, Cleaning and most of the mundane stuff we have to do can all be gamified to include the kids. Start a "team christmas" and let them start earning elf points :)

Im a lockdown Mum. Give me a two week christmas break in the house, over a summer of discontent anyday!! 😂 But under normal circumstances, it really is in how you approach it and how you engage with the kids throughout which will determine how you find it.

Good luck :)

Nc546888 · 21/12/2024 12:02

Didimum · 21/12/2024 12:01

I guess family life is hell on earth in a marriage where you’re completely unsupported and uncared for. Funny that.

People do it all the time - military wives, people with partners who work long hours. Some people even have more children than OP ( !!)

it’s not hell on earth. Op isn’t in Gaza and she needs to get a flipping grip.

Didimum · 21/12/2024 12:01

Nc546888 · 21/12/2024 11:59

Well don’t act like one then. Seriously, looking after your own children for a week and you’re acting like it’s hell of earth.

I guess family life is hell on earth in a marriage where you’re completely unsupported and uncared for. Funny that.

Didimum · 21/12/2024 11:59

OP is getting a pretty unfair deal here by some posters. She had every right to feel arsey and miserable.

She is being utterly robbed of her ability to enjoy her children because their father is a terrible dad and a terrible husband.

If anyone has the wherewithal to grasp that in the same situation, then you’d be bloody miserable too.

Nc546888 · 21/12/2024 11:59

nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 11:04

OK, I’m coming across as really arsey.

😐

If you’re waiting for ‘oh my god yes, going out in the morning, I didn’t think of that! Wow, what a good idea!’ it isn’t going to happen. I don’t like being treated like an idiot.

Well don’t act like one then. Seriously, looking after your own children for a week and you’re acting like it’s hell of earth.

SweetBobby · 21/12/2024 11:54

fishyrumour · 21/12/2024 11:47

She's not being remotely nasty. A bit exasperated but that's understandable given some of the horrible posts blaming her and not her useless husband for him being useless or criticising her for wanting to vent.

Your post is possibly the nastiest. You should feel ashamed of yourself.

Why on earth should I be ashamed? And she's practically biting people's heads off.

Nc546888 · 21/12/2024 11:54

Petrasings · 21/12/2024 06:20

You do realise op that a great many people look after their dc 247 365 days a year for decades! How can you not manage just a week? They are your own children and are little for such a small amount of time.

Please reframe this. This is your opportunity to spend some proper time with them.

A Christmas teddy bears party cost nothing
Glitter and make decorations for the tree cost pence.
Draw cards for each of the relatives
Christmas baking
Take them to the family friendly church service - it is free
They can help decorate the Christmas table
Play hide and seek with Christmas chocolates - they love that
Watch a Christmas film

If you approach this with a mindset of making this Christmas all about them, then it will be fun. Your little one is crying out for affection, hence the needing to be picked up. Tune into their little world, and yes dp needs to be told. You should not be accepting us lack of participation and parenting. Put your foot down. It is unfair on the children and unfair on you.

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I agree with you!!

op……YABU!!!

I look after our 1 yo and 4 yo every day minus 15 hours of preschool a week, and I’m pregnant.

it’s two small children that you chose to have. Honestly just get on with it and stop being a whinge. Find things to enjoy about their childhood!! Go and see the Christmas lights (free!!) make some cookie, put a film on. It’s not rocket science

FarmerLlama · 21/12/2024 11:53

Why don't you do more free stuff then? The weather may not be your cup of tea but the kids won't care. Just getting them outside even for half an hour of running round with a ball or a walk to the shop or post Xmas cards to neighbours will be beneficial to all of you. Trying to do only indoor activities will not be helping.

HocusFord · 21/12/2024 11:51

nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 11:45

@HocusFord thanks. The thing is I do a lot with the children. No, we don’t sit making crafty things as one just isn’t interested - draws one blue line on a colouring book then charges away and the other is too little - but they do get out probably more than most children, for my sanity as much as anything else! So they do ballet and rugby and swimming, they are going to the pantomime, the farm to meet reindeer, ice skating (well, sitting on a toy polar bear and being pulled along for the younger one anyway) and yes dreaded soft play.

People making out my children are suffering or neglected and that I don’t want them because they go to a (very good) nursery three days a week while I work is cruel and wrong.

But the above activities do come at a price and it isn’t stress free. Above all what I need is time on my own. I need to sit and chill out for a while while my husband or someone entertains the children and that isn’t going to happen. It just isn’t, and all the indignant Mumsnetters twittering about crafts and snuggling up watching films isn’t going to change that.

I completely understand what you’re saying. The issue is your husband not caring enough about your well-being to take on his share of the childcare and give you the break you need. I’m really sorry you’re dealing with that. You sound like a really good mother whose ability to really enjoy her children is being wrecked by their selfish, lazy dad.

YouveGotAFastCar · 21/12/2024 11:50

It is tough and relentless. And somewhat unfortunate that you've ended up surrounded by both a completely useless DH and friends who either have one child or a lot of support... a close friend of mine has two, but has their grandparents stay over from Thursday - Sunday each week on alternating weeks to help, and both go to nursery Tuesday and Wednesday, so she's only got them to "herself" one day a week, and with her husband two days. Thankfully other friends of mine have a lot less support!

We have none, but DH will have him. Sadly most of the time that he does is spent with me working, but that's just our situation right now.

I'm not sure that you actually want tips, but I will sympathise. It's tiring and relentless and then you feel guilty for feeling like that...

Mine are off until the 7th now!

nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 11:48

I really haven’t been nasty. Unless someone really, really hates sprouts.

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fishyrumour · 21/12/2024 11:47

SweetBobby · 21/12/2024 11:31

You posted because you're struggling and you're being really nasty to people who were kind enough to offer help and advice. I think you need to take a real look at why your kids don't want to do activities with you. Could be because they can clearly tell you're miserable and uninterested, kids aren't stupid.

She's not being remotely nasty. A bit exasperated but that's understandable given some of the horrible posts blaming her and not her useless husband for him being useless or criticising her for wanting to vent.

Your post is possibly the nastiest. You should feel ashamed of yourself.

JetskiSkyJumper · 21/12/2024 11:46

You have a partner problem op you need to deal with it, maybe not now but soon. Small kids are exhausting and relentless. I remember it well

nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 11:46

Stickseas0n · 21/12/2024 11:43

I feel you.
It's not even day one (weekend always happens) and I'm thoroughly done in. I have four so it's loud, messy and I just feel like I can't get a single thing done as there is always someone there in my way

I literally trip over my youngest. I’ve hidden from her before as ridiculous as that sounds!

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nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 11:45

@HocusFord thanks. The thing is I do a lot with the children. No, we don’t sit making crafty things as one just isn’t interested - draws one blue line on a colouring book then charges away and the other is too little - but they do get out probably more than most children, for my sanity as much as anything else! So they do ballet and rugby and swimming, they are going to the pantomime, the farm to meet reindeer, ice skating (well, sitting on a toy polar bear and being pulled along for the younger one anyway) and yes dreaded soft play.

People making out my children are suffering or neglected and that I don’t want them because they go to a (very good) nursery three days a week while I work is cruel and wrong.

But the above activities do come at a price and it isn’t stress free. Above all what I need is time on my own. I need to sit and chill out for a while while my husband or someone entertains the children and that isn’t going to happen. It just isn’t, and all the indignant Mumsnetters twittering about crafts and snuggling up watching films isn’t going to change that.

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Stickseas0n · 21/12/2024 11:43

I feel you.
It's not even day one (weekend always happens) and I'm thoroughly done in. I have four so it's loud, messy and I just feel like I can't get a single thing done as there is always someone there in my way

Didimum · 21/12/2024 11:41

Hi OP. I remember these days well. I have twins and also remember dreading these stretches of time with no childcare. They were also only just turned two when Covid hit and nursery shut its doors for 4 months.

Is this the first time you’ve had a big chunk like this at the ages they are? Was the eldest in nursery while you were on mat leave with the youngest?

What I would say, rather than trying to give tips of what to do with them, is try to just take each day as it comes as not think ahead too much. I do remember the twins actually being much easier than I thought they’d be when it came to it, and I think that’s because when kids are in childcare, you often see them at their very worst when you are are also at your worst – all tired after a long day or having to get up and rush around in the morning, and then weekends they are still tired from the week, as are you.

I think with longer stretches out of childcare, even though they are demanding, everyone is just a bit happier and with more energy for the day ahead.

GivingitToGod · 21/12/2024 11:41

Christmas breaks are not good for many people for a variety of reasons.
It will be over soon.
As for the illusion of happy family xmas's well????????

fishyrumour · 21/12/2024 11:39

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 21/12/2024 10:02

@nonotchristmas By having kids go out and entertain themselves largely, often with disastrous results.

OP have you asked your mother what she did when you were at that age or are you the "disastrous result" of parental neglect??? you should take a look at yourself, casting aside ever single suggestion given to you! you are making mountains out of molehills here. so what if the kids make a mess? it is only going to be in the kitchen for most of the things to do!

Still being a nob then. Think you need to go and get some fresh air so you can be a bit nicer.

HocusFord · 21/12/2024 11:36

PicturePlace · 21/12/2024 06:08

Someone not doing things "your way" is not "useless". This sounds fine (as long as DH cleaned the poo accident up - these things happen with young kids). Spaghetti hoops and choc for lunch won't harm your kids every now and then. You sound really uptight and aggressive.

If your DH will, in fact, take the children, as seems to be the case, you need to let him and stop judging. I bet the kids had a great time with him.

She doesn’t sound uptight and aggressive at all, what a bloody stupid thing to say. Only an idiot would think it was ok to attempt to work from home and look after two toddlers at the same time. OP’s point is clearly that the care of the children suffered because instead of actually looking after them, her husband was trying to work. That’s why they ate rubbish, had toileting accidents and weren’t dressed. And she’s clearly pointing out that this is an ongoing pattern of behaviour rather than a one off.

The way some posters trip over themselves to defend useless men failing to parent their kids properly is absolutely embarrassing.

OP - I think I’d be dreading the holidays too if I was managing two toddlers with a bloody useless co-parent who can’t be relied upon. I would seriously consider whether it’s time for you to decide if this marriage is worth it and then communicate to your husband that if he isn’t going to change and actually start fulfilling his responsibilities then you’re not sticking around to have your life ruined by him any more. It’s not just that he’s selfish and lazy - it’s the fact that he is ruining your own enjoyment of your children by forcing you to do everything to the point where you’re burned out and exhausted.

To survive these next couple of weeks I would look into every possible free activity you can take advantage of to get out of the house. Are there any options like:

  • local libraries - even if they aren’t running activities are they open so you can take the kids out and read books for an hour?
  • Garden picnic - one of my favourite ways to get kids outside. Put hot food (soup, hot chocolate, toasties etc) in a basket with hot water bottles and get out into the garden or a local outdoor spot in warm clothes and waterproofs for a garden picnic. My son LOVES these and it’s a low effort way to get fresh air and time away from home.
  • swimming - if public pools are open take them out, it exhausts them and they usually love it
  • nature scavenger hunt. Give them a list of things to find on a walk or in a park. Preferably one near a picnic area so you can scroll your phone and have a coffee while they’re searching.
  • are there any crafts they like? Colouring, sticker books etc? Stock up from somewhere cheap like The Works

But seriously - come the new year, decide if your husband is actually bringing value to your life and act accordingly…

SweetBobby · 21/12/2024 11:31

nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 10:39

She’s dead but thanks

@Openuniversity22 just leave the thread then. I can live without your amazing suggestions. Thanks.

I was up at 3am with various children thinking the holiday was going to be Hard Work. That’s it. I don’t want or need anyone’s suggestions, just sounding off.

You posted because you're struggling and you're being really nasty to people who were kind enough to offer help and advice. I think you need to take a real look at why your kids don't want to do activities with you. Could be because they can clearly tell you're miserable and uninterested, kids aren't stupid.

Movinghouseatlast · 21/12/2024 11:24

Did your husband want the children? If he did why isn't he looking after them or enjoying being with them?

RhaenysRocks · 21/12/2024 11:24

OP this is your thread. People are mostly directing their comments at you. You've had some shitty replies but some really nice supportive long ones too, including from me. However, you obviously just wanted a vent and not solutions so I'll leave you to it. Again, best of luck.

nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 11:21

And people say I am the arsey one?

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