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To be dreading the holiday

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nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 01:28

I broke up today. Kids off for two weeks. They go to private day nursery but because of the days they do (Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays) they are in Monday and then that’s it, because Wednesday is of course Christmas Day and nursery is closed for a week so the next day they are in is Friday 3rd January.

And I know I’m going to be roasted like the turkey for this but I’m dreading it. Two weeks where I won’t get a single break from them, in the house they fight and whine and the youngest follows me round crying to be picked up all the time. Feeding them is increasingly expensive and challenging. Entertaining them is a nightmare, I’ve booked a few things but everything is so expensive again with a Christmas premium on it, I know I’ll get told to ‘just take them to the park’ but please don’t: parks are absolutely lethal with a completely fearless preschooler and a cheery but clueless toddler: slippy equipment the slip on and smash their chins open (ask me how I know) so soft play it is, again and again and again.

But it’s the day in day out nature of it. It’s knackering and two full weeks of it is hideous. And expensive. And help me

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nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 12:54

Whatabouthow · 21/12/2024 12:50

Maybe not anxious, but definitely negative. That's just a typical Welsh winter. Which lasts about nine months.

Nice try, I am Welsh. I can assure you the Welsh playgrounds are as deserted as the English ones, which I can say with confidence as I am right on the England / wales border!

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nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 12:53

I don’t exactly think they are difficult but DS is rubbish in the house, even as a baby we used to say ‘he’s better out of the house.’ DD is pretty easy and just potters about playing with her horses and dancing to the Tonie box. DS on the other hand … by Christ I love him, I adore him, but he cannot be in the house, he opens drawers, rifles through them and gets the contents out, empties toys he’s no intention of playing with on the floor, constantly knocks cushions off the sofa which don’t get me wrong it’s no big deal in and of itself but it adds to the general ‘unkempt’ feeling of the place. Tried to do some baking with him a few weeks ago and he crumbled half of one digestive biscuit, ate the other half then went outside.

He needs to start school. And before anyone starts, yes I do obviously tell him off but it doesn’t actually stop him doing these annoying things!

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Whatabouthow · 21/12/2024 12:50

nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 12:33

@Whatabouthow its ridiculous that you think you know where I live.

We have winds of up to 60 mph predicted. The roads and verges are submerged in water, fields are ponds / lakes and I have a teeny just walking toddler. I am not an anxious parent in the slightest and I am telling you it is not safe.

I could not get a pushchair through the mud in the woods nearest to us and surprise surprise, no one around us is either. It’s only on Mumsnetown that parks and playgrounds are filled with rosy cheeked children playing in their puddle suits while their parents laugh fondly and sip from the flasks. Everywhere else everyone stays in.

Maybe not anxious, but definitely negative. That's just a typical Welsh winter. Which lasts about nine months.

thepariscrimefiles · 21/12/2024 12:47

nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 11:48

I really haven’t been nasty. Unless someone really, really hates sprouts.

Not everyone but a lot of posters feel offended if the OP isn't grateful enough for their advice or if she doesn't take it gratefully on board.

Then you get the sort of parents who say they can keep a child entertained for a whole day with the middles of three toilet rolls and one felt tip pen.

The truth is that some children are much easier to entertain and keep happy than others. It doesn't actually mean that they are better parents.

NotMeForBakeoff · 21/12/2024 12:45

nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 07:16

Thanks. Putting DH aside for a moment - he isn’t going to change; divorce may be an option but it is also not really just the fact he’s lazy, it’s the fact he’s also working for some of it. He’ll be at work Monday and Tuesday, have Christmas week off then back on the 2nd.

DS just isn’t a crafty kid at all, no interest, making Christmas decorations just doesn’t grab his attention at all. DD would eat everything and have glittery poos. (Which probably would grab DS’s attention.)

Neither have the attention span for a film. I know some children do but not mine.

We do have a local museum so I’ll see what’s on there. Soft play is fine for a couple of days just can’t face it every day!

Well that's one day sorted. Buy edible glitter, buy some cookie dough for them to shape, sprinkle edible glitter, now they have to poo in the loo to see if it makes the water glittery!

devilspawn · 21/12/2024 12:43

your DH is the problem, he sounds like an absolute waste of space.

if you're going to be a single parent anyway it would be better to separate and then you can dump them on him regularly to get your peace and quiet.

thepariscrimefiles · 21/12/2024 12:40

SweetBobby · 21/12/2024 11:31

You posted because you're struggling and you're being really nasty to people who were kind enough to offer help and advice. I think you need to take a real look at why your kids don't want to do activities with you. Could be because they can clearly tell you're miserable and uninterested, kids aren't stupid.

As your first comment was:

'I think it's absolutely awful that you dread spending time with your own children to be honest.'

you were certainly not one of the people being kind enough to offer help and advice. In fact, your latest judgemental, sanctimonious and unkind comment makes it crystal clear what sort of person you are.

nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 12:39

I have two children like that @Bippityboppitybooo . DD is fine in the house; DS not so much. Individually they are actually lovely children; together they are very hard work. It’s a phase, it will pass.

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iamawarriorwhojustcrieseasily · 21/12/2024 12:39

nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 12:15

That’s good lovely. So, lovely, what makes you think my children are coming seconds eh to my needs? Lovely?

Nothing - It was a remark I made to high light we all go through similar with young children and that we all sacrifice our own wants and needs for years until they are older. However - judging by your reply to ke, and others, it feels that you have absolutely no issue in making others feel as crappy as you do, should you be having a bad day.

Take from that what you will.

Merry Christmas.

Bippityboppitybooo · 21/12/2024 12:38

@nonotchristmas No I get what you mean, and it depends a huge amount on the kind of kids you have. My daughter is basically a lovely little potato, loves reading, crafts, pretend play, and dancing/music. And she hates the wind and being cold, so it's not as simple as wrapping up (5 layers is not enough apparently) to go puddle jumping in the park! My son though is hyperactive and can't sit still, and we live in a flat. It can be stressful. The exhaustion can really grind you down.

I am optimistic for our Christmas though!

@FarmerLlama No, older immature boy and younger advanced girl. Her communication is excellent, and not far behind him 🤣 My expectations are low lol, but they make forts, build armies of stuffies, obstacles courses, cars, sword fights etc. He teachers her things to play with him and she loves it and him very much. Of course they bicker and tell tales, but them playing together means it's not a constant 'mummy mummy mummy'. They're both really into dressing up at the moment now too, and having dance parties.

IrritableVowel · 21/12/2024 12:37

I don't think you sound aggressive, you sound worn out and pissed off.

People making suggestions that you know won't work (because you know your own kids) but then having posters say you are wrong or ridiculous for knowing that, really doesn't help.

And your DH isn't an equal help either.

Can you carve out any time for yourself alone at all? I know the house will be a tip and you will come back to two tired/messy kids. But if you can get a few hours of not being on duty, it might give you a bit of energy to start again?

Trying to think of examples that don't sound shite, but even a coffee shop with a book, not on your phone. Or go to a film on your own and if you hate the film, have a snooze. A bath with headphones in and refuse to be disturbed (bet that won't work, they'll know you are in there!)

In an ideal world, I'd say an overnight in travelodge, but that's probably a stretch!

Stickseas0n · 21/12/2024 12:33

FarmerLlama · 21/12/2024 12:28

@Bippityboppitybooo do you have two girls? I always hear about young children playing nicely together and I used to play with my sister for hours when I was a child, but my children are older boy and younger girl (same as op) and the times that they have ever played nicely together are very very rare as they just don't like doing the same things.

I agree about the partner, but if that isn't want op has, it's not going to help.

Op get them outside come hell or high water, it will be better for everyone's health both physical and mental

I have three girls
They do not play together. They squabble and fight like cat and dog. They would never colour together as that would be copying each other and God forbid Grin
If I put a film on, guarantee the other one will suddenly hate it and I hear screams of its not fair

nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 12:33

@Whatabouthow its ridiculous that you think you know where I live.

We have winds of up to 60 mph predicted. The roads and verges are submerged in water, fields are ponds / lakes and I have a teeny just walking toddler. I am not an anxious parent in the slightest and I am telling you it is not safe.

I could not get a pushchair through the mud in the woods nearest to us and surprise surprise, no one around us is either. It’s only on Mumsnetown that parks and playgrounds are filled with rosy cheeked children playing in their puddle suits while their parents laugh fondly and sip from the flasks. Everywhere else everyone stays in.

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Didimum · 21/12/2024 12:32

Nc546888 · 21/12/2024 12:02

People do it all the time - military wives, people with partners who work long hours. Some people even have more children than OP ( !!)

it’s not hell on earth. Op isn’t in Gaza and she needs to get a flipping grip.

A loving and supportive husband in the military or that works long hours is not the same, at all, as a husband who is physically present but that does not provide emotional or practical support.

A situation does not have to be literal warfare in order for it to cause damage, depression and eroded wellbeing.

Sorry, but if you can’t understand the importance of getting support in your marriage then you don’t have enough emotional intelligence to understand OP’s situation.

leftorrightnow · 21/12/2024 12:31

Whatabouthow · 21/12/2024 12:30

It's ridiculous to say you can't go to the park because it's slippy, or the woods are muddy. We were on the beach for three hours Tuesday afternoon. You just put on waterproofs and layers and go. Of course you're going to find it hard work if you stay home in a grump.

Yea that’s right! WHY hasn’t OP and everyone else who’s struggling thought of the simple solution to just CHEER UP! Brilliant.

Whatabouthow · 21/12/2024 12:30

It's ridiculous to say you can't go to the park because it's slippy, or the woods are muddy. We were on the beach for three hours Tuesday afternoon. You just put on waterproofs and layers and go. Of course you're going to find it hard work if you stay home in a grump.

FarmerLlama · 21/12/2024 12:28

@Bippityboppitybooo do you have two girls? I always hear about young children playing nicely together and I used to play with my sister for hours when I was a child, but my children are older boy and younger girl (same as op) and the times that they have ever played nicely together are very very rare as they just don't like doing the same things.

I agree about the partner, but if that isn't want op has, it's not going to help.

Op get them outside come hell or high water, it will be better for everyone's health both physical and mental

leftorrightnow · 21/12/2024 12:27

Nc546888 · 21/12/2024 11:54

I agree with you!!

op……YABU!!!

I look after our 1 yo and 4 yo every day minus 15 hours of preschool a week, and I’m pregnant.

it’s two small children that you chose to have. Honestly just get on with it and stop being a whinge. Find things to enjoy about their childhood!! Go and see the Christmas lights (free!!) make some cookie, put a film on. It’s not rocket science

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OP it really sounds like there are bigger issues here. Your set up just doesn’t sound good and your DH is perhaps only part of it.
I know that how I feel about looking agtrt my kids is all about the set-up - where I live, how much disposable income, how much space, how much support from partner, family and friends. My own work situation. All of it creates a framework which affects my abilities to create nice days and my mood and mental health.

other posters comparing to their entirely different situations is entirely pointless and unhelpful.

OP, focus on getting through this holiday and then think of what changes you can make to improve your overall life situation.

nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 12:25

MrsSkylerWhite · 21/12/2024 12:16

Can you not see how aggressive you are? Perhaps the GP can help?

Can you not see how condescending you are? Perhaps stopping that would help.

Thanks @Bippityboppitybooo , this is the daft thing, they are loved, wanted, doted on children - it doesn’t mean it’s not exhausting and hard day after day!

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Bippityboppitybooo · 21/12/2024 12:18

Sympathy @nonotchristmas . This is the first year I'm keeping dd home from nursery between Xmas eve and new year (they're literally only closed bank holidays). Now they're a little older (almost 3 and almost 6) they're thick as thieves and playing beautifully together. It will still be louder and with more whining than I'd like, but I'd feel too guilty to send her to nursery when she must need a break too.

BUT - I have an equal dp, we will alternate and keep the pressure off each other. We're a team. It would be a lot more fraught with a crap dp who didn't pull his weight...

MrsSkylerWhite · 21/12/2024 12:16

Can you not see how aggressive you are? Perhaps the GP can help?

nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 12:15

That’s good lovely. So, lovely, what makes you think my children are coming seconds eh to my needs? Lovely?

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MrsSkylerWhite · 21/12/2024 12:14

nonotchristmas · Today 12:07
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I have not said it will be hell on earth, I’ve said it will be hard, and it will. Yes, some of you had seven under threes, went to the park every day even when it was flooded: it was jolly japes and little Hattie just loved practicing swimming since you’d never do anything as gauche as pay to go to a swimming pool.
Me, I’m not made as such stern stuff, I do get tired and want / need a break

There’s really no need to be so rude to people. Lots of posters have been very kind. You are very negative. Presumably you had worked out that your husband was pretty hopeless before you decided to have a second child?

iamawarriorwhojustcrieseasily · 21/12/2024 12:14

nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 12:07

I have not said it will be hell on earth, I’ve said it will be hard, and it will. Yes, some of you had seven under threes, went to the park every day even when it was flooded: it was jolly japes and little Hattie just loved practicing swimming since you’d never do anything as gauche as pay to go to a swimming pool.

Me, I’m not made as such stern stuff, I do get tired and want / need a break.

Well all do lovely, i commented as a full time working mum, with a husband who works 55 hours a week. We are all exhausted. You, me, every body that commented. I can assure you, i am the furthest away from any "jolly japes" and little Hattie can f off away from me. But we had kids. And our needs are secondary to their immediate ones for a little while.

nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 12:07

Nc546888 · 21/12/2024 11:59

Well don’t act like one then. Seriously, looking after your own children for a week and you’re acting like it’s hell of earth.

Two.

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