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To be dreading the holiday

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nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 01:28

I broke up today. Kids off for two weeks. They go to private day nursery but because of the days they do (Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays) they are in Monday and then that’s it, because Wednesday is of course Christmas Day and nursery is closed for a week so the next day they are in is Friday 3rd January.

And I know I’m going to be roasted like the turkey for this but I’m dreading it. Two weeks where I won’t get a single break from them, in the house they fight and whine and the youngest follows me round crying to be picked up all the time. Feeding them is increasingly expensive and challenging. Entertaining them is a nightmare, I’ve booked a few things but everything is so expensive again with a Christmas premium on it, I know I’ll get told to ‘just take them to the park’ but please don’t: parks are absolutely lethal with a completely fearless preschooler and a cheery but clueless toddler: slippy equipment the slip on and smash their chins open (ask me how I know) so soft play it is, again and again and again.

But it’s the day in day out nature of it. It’s knackering and two full weeks of it is hideous. And expensive. And help me

OP posts:
PicturePlace · 22/12/2024 09:27

Because that’s so easy to do when you have two small children and a job and a husband that does nothing to support you and NHS counselling waiting lists are 6 months.

It would be a mistake to give the OP the impression that taking responsibility for her mental health is impossible. Getting a GP appointment is the first step (doable), and then likely medication for depression. Very achievable things, which will make her life much better.

nonotchristmas · 22/12/2024 09:11

Thanks. I don’t need MH treatment, just sleep. DH has actually been more helpful yesterday than of late and I’ve also started a (short, painful) period (perimenopause.)

I shall apologise to all those horribly offended by my terrible rudeness in pointing out I don’t need suggestions for ways to entertain my children, I will lie and say Oh wow! Thank you so much, it hadn’t occurred to me to take them out! Mumsnet is just so helpful <simper>

OP posts:
Hercisback1 · 22/12/2024 06:28

I was one who offered the routine and going out in the morning. Thanks for your rude reply to someone who was trying to help.

Sort out your DH problem now. He won't get any better and he's the reason you feel like this. I've always had 6 weeks holidays off alone while H works and I've never felt like this. Yes 3 and baby was brutal but the minute my H came home he took over for a while to give me headspace.

MrsSkylerWhite · 21/12/2024 23:59

nonotchristmas · Today 12:25

MrsSkylerWhite · Today 12:16
Can you not see how aggressive you are? Perhaps the GP can help?

Can you not see how condescending you are? Perhaps stopping that would help.

No, I can’t.

I think that you’re struggling more than you ought to be in the circumstances that you describe and maybe need some professional help to get things in focus.

Our kids are adults now but I remember how difficult it was to be at home with them when my husband worked away all week for around 6 years.

I hosted overseas 6th form students for income because of the age gap of our two (nearly 9 years) so with mostly absent husband couldn’t really work outside of our home.

So, had 5, 2-16 year olds to look after by myself for several years.
Of course it wasn’t always easy but I honestly always looked forward to school holidays, If anything, a break from the usual routine made my life a bit easier, tbh. We could just be daft and have fun with no time pressure.

I’m sorry that I offended you but I do think that you are very, very defensive and aggressive. I was usually exhausted. What’ I never did, though, was mentally blame the children. I certainly never hid from our youngest when he needed me.

Again, I apologise but sometimes things need to be said. You chose your husband. You chose (I hope) to have two children. Your husband appears to be your problem and you need to deal with that,

fashionqueen0123 · 21/12/2024 23:55

What do you mean your husband won’t take the kids out?! How has he got away with that? Pack a bag for them and make him do it. Then you can have a rest at home

Greywarden · 21/12/2024 23:48

PicturePlace · 21/12/2024 22:34

That's so unfair. The OP needs to take responsibility for her own mental health and seek help.

You do realise that mental health treatment doesn't make people in stressful challenging situations suddenly feel good about those situations, right? It isn't like some lobotomising positivity treatment that turns people into Stepford wives / mothers. Just checking you're clear on that.

Greywarden · 21/12/2024 23:44

nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 12:25

Can you not see how condescending you are? Perhaps stopping that would help.

Thanks @Bippityboppitybooo , this is the daft thing, they are loved, wanted, doted on children - it doesn’t mean it’s not exhausting and hard day after day!

OP I can't believe the nastiness you're getting for expressing understandable apprehension about the holiday and the fact that you need a break once in a while. People suggesting you have some sort of mental health problem because you're standing up for yourself is ridiculous too.

I wish you luck getting through it and hope there are enough moments of loveliness to make up for the exhaustion.

Youreatragedystartingtohappen · 21/12/2024 23:06

nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 13:19

Yes, we ar members, thank you.

It's a wild place this MN- OP, I'm sorry you're getting such a lot of flak. I am you and you are me. And tbh you've saved me starting a similar thread so thank you from the bottom of my heart!

Full time secondary teacher here. Knackered. Two boys, 6 and 3. Fight like anything. Husband works really long hours. I've started with the annual tradition of feeling poorly as soon as school finishes too. Beautiful times.

I always feel as you're feeling in the run up to the holidays. Largely because I'm frazzled and really wish one of their hobbies was "watching mummy reading a book". I, like you, will be braving the park and trying to get through each day. I'm not a bad mum because I feel this way. You aren't either. I would just much rather not go to the park in winter if I'm honest. My kids benefit from it though so I will.

Thanks for being so honest, my health visitor recommended this app and sitewhen I suffered from really low mood and loneliness after a pretty traumatic birth with my first born. I've really benefited from the kindness of strangers here but, from time to time, some people feel the need to stick the boot in. I'm sorry that's happened to you today. If I'd started my threat tomorrow as planned it would have been me.

Have as fab a festive season as circumstance allows. I'll be right there with you!

Didimum · 21/12/2024 22:48

PicturePlace · 21/12/2024 22:34

That's so unfair. The OP needs to take responsibility for her own mental health and seek help.

Because that’s so easy to do when you have two small children and a job and a husband that does nothing to support you and NHS counselling waiting lists are 6 months.

PicturePlace · 21/12/2024 22:34

Didimum · 21/12/2024 11:59

OP is getting a pretty unfair deal here by some posters. She had every right to feel arsey and miserable.

She is being utterly robbed of her ability to enjoy her children because their father is a terrible dad and a terrible husband.

If anyone has the wherewithal to grasp that in the same situation, then you’d be bloody miserable too.

That's so unfair. The OP needs to take responsibility for her own mental health and seek help.

nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 13:19

Yes, we ar members, thank you.

OP posts:
Blondeshavemorefun · 21/12/2024 13:19

National trust is fab. Around £10 per month for family membership. They usually do some kind of kiddy adventure trail at Xmas and half terms etx

Blondeshavemorefun · 21/12/2024 13:17

Yes doing childcare /parenting 24/7 x2w x 2dc is hard

Dh needs to man up and help you

Go out and grab a coffee and read a book for an hour in a coffee shop

He can look after them

All your plans sound lovely. I assume dh will be coming out with you all to help you

nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 13:17

As will I.

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Whatabouthow · 21/12/2024 13:17

FarmerLlama · 21/12/2024 13:15

I don't think the children are fictitious on this thread, just people don't really resonate with what the issue is as it seems an everyday scenario, but you are obviously feeling very negative about things and people are only offering ideas on how to make the time pass.
Hope things perk up for you soon.

Exactly. Most people just get on with it.

FarmerLlama · 21/12/2024 13:15

I don't think the children are fictitious on this thread, just people don't really resonate with what the issue is as it seems an everyday scenario, but you are obviously feeling very negative about things and people are only offering ideas on how to make the time pass.
Hope things perk up for you soon.

Whatabouthow · 21/12/2024 13:15

nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 13:06

We’ve missed the gale force winds and flooding haven’t we?

In all seriousness yes of course I will take them out.

It is still tiring. Very tiring. I’m not starting the thread asking ‘what can I do with my kids?’ I know what to do with my kids; I do it every week and I’m wanting a BREAK from it!

Didn't think I needed to explain that shouldn't let your kids play in the road, with or without flooded verges. As for the wind, don't stand under a tree. Sorted.

You sound happiest being a martyr who isn't actually doing any of the simple cheap options to entertain her kids and then wondering why it feels like hard work and expensive. If you spent less time being stroppy you might have more fun.

nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 13:07

Sacmagique75 · 21/12/2024 13:02

I resonate entirely. Mine were 3 and 1 when lockdown started and I almost cried when nursery closed. I know exactly how you are feeling. They will get older, it’ll get easier/more bearable in time. Meanwhile, just take it day by day.

I genuinely don’t know how you got through that and that is sincere Flowers

OP posts:
nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 13:06

Whatabouthow · 21/12/2024 13:03

Then just go out! You say your little boy is happier outside - other kids (as shown by this thread) are happy inside baking. An empty park is ideal, no random teenager to clock a toddler in the head on the swings.

We’ve missed the gale force winds and flooding haven’t we?

In all seriousness yes of course I will take them out.

It is still tiring. Very tiring. I’m not starting the thread asking ‘what can I do with my kids?’ I know what to do with my kids; I do it every week and I’m wanting a BREAK from it!

OP posts:
Whatabouthow · 21/12/2024 13:03

nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 12:54

Nice try, I am Welsh. I can assure you the Welsh playgrounds are as deserted as the English ones, which I can say with confidence as I am right on the England / wales border!

Then just go out! You say your little boy is happier outside - other kids (as shown by this thread) are happy inside baking. An empty park is ideal, no random teenager to clock a toddler in the head on the swings.

thepariscrimefiles · 21/12/2024 13:02

Nc546888 · 21/12/2024 12:02

People do it all the time - military wives, people with partners who work long hours. Some people even have more children than OP ( !!)

it’s not hell on earth. Op isn’t in Gaza and she needs to get a flipping grip.

Well, seeing as OP didn't describe it as 'hell on earth' and you were the one to use that term, why on earth are you berating her and telling her to get a flipping grip. You are also disgusting for using Gaza to criticise the OP.

Sacmagique75 · 21/12/2024 13:02

I resonate entirely. Mine were 3 and 1 when lockdown started and I almost cried when nursery closed. I know exactly how you are feeling. They will get older, it’ll get easier/more bearable in time. Meanwhile, just take it day by day.

FarmerLlama · 21/12/2024 12:57

Bippityboppitybooo · 21/12/2024 12:38

@nonotchristmas No I get what you mean, and it depends a huge amount on the kind of kids you have. My daughter is basically a lovely little potato, loves reading, crafts, pretend play, and dancing/music. And she hates the wind and being cold, so it's not as simple as wrapping up (5 layers is not enough apparently) to go puddle jumping in the park! My son though is hyperactive and can't sit still, and we live in a flat. It can be stressful. The exhaustion can really grind you down.

I am optimistic for our Christmas though!

@FarmerLlama No, older immature boy and younger advanced girl. Her communication is excellent, and not far behind him 🤣 My expectations are low lol, but they make forts, build armies of stuffies, obstacles courses, cars, sword fights etc. He teachers her things to play with him and she loves it and him very much. Of course they bicker and tell tales, but them playing together means it's not a constant 'mummy mummy mummy'. They're both really into dressing up at the moment now too, and having dance parties.

Lol sound like mine were, I did all that with mine but it always involved me being in the middle to keep the peace/provide the context to the play.

nonotchristmas · 21/12/2024 12:56

There are many fictitious children on here; don’t worry about it!

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thepariscrimefiles · 21/12/2024 12:56

Nc546888 · 21/12/2024 11:54

I agree with you!!

op……YABU!!!

I look after our 1 yo and 4 yo every day minus 15 hours of preschool a week, and I’m pregnant.

it’s two small children that you chose to have. Honestly just get on with it and stop being a whinge. Find things to enjoy about their childhood!! Go and see the Christmas lights (free!!) make some cookie, put a film on. It’s not rocket science

Edited

Don't be so judgy and complacent. I had two really easy children and I thought being a mum was so easy. Then I had a third and I felt like the worst mum in the world.

Maybe you've got a supportive husband unlike OP. This thread isn't supposed to be an opportunity for posters to boast about what great mums they are and how easy it is.

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