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Exchanging presents but not meeting up

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Northerndownhere · 20/12/2024 19:12

Does anyone only exchange Christmas presents via parcel delivery or via other relatives picking up and dropping off presents at Christmas with no intention of meeting up? I am disappointed that I'm being asked to exchange presents but no actual arrangement of meeting up and socialising. This isn't abroad or even more than 10 miles away. No falling out or bad feeling, just total indifference and no relationship at all. It seems so uncaring and frankly dare I say grabby. I have no interest in presents themselves, I would rather the socialising and care to be shown to myself and DC (one has disabilities). No DH as I'm divorced.

I don't think AIBU but growing up in a toxic family has been questioning myself well into my 50s.

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Fishandchipsareyum · 21/12/2024 21:17

sadly ,this seems to be getting more and more common, not sure what is wrong with people! total disconnect, so sad, I also would prefer seeing people having a nice time, no gifts required, just a good atmosphere, don't get it with family here either, always drama and disconnection...

Northerndownhere · 21/12/2024 21:16

Thanks everyone for the responses. If it wasn't clear, I am really hurt by this. Then I question myself. I haven't replied to either sibling as taking time to settle my own feelings. As some PP have said I know it is time to reclaim some self respect and I still do a double take when I have people who show me care and love in ways I've never known with my own family growing up.

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Northerndownhere · 21/12/2024 21:13

georgepigg · 21/12/2024 09:06

Why is the post office known to be busy at Christmas time if it’s an odd thing to do?

I’ve received a hamper from an aunt just yesterday. Also received parcels of pressies from my sister and DH’s brother. 🤷‍♀️

I don't have a problem with sending presents through the post as long as it's a mutual arrangement and you can do so even with someone who you do keep regular contact with. I have two distant aunts (in fact one of whom is my Ex H's second cousin) who I still send a card and gift voucher to each year.

What I have a problem with is being asked for presents with no intention of meeting by a sibling who doesn't bother keeping in touch and on top of that then suggests the present exchange be carried out by another sibling they have bothered arranged to meet up with.

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Amplepie · 21/12/2024 21:10

Same here, with my mum, brother, sister in law.
Myself and DC left alone for Christmas every year. Don't live far away, either.

Northerndownhere · 21/12/2024 21:07

Secondguess · 21/12/2024 08:59

I thought it would be cousins/aunts/uncles, handing gifts for siblings to a go-between seems a lot worse.

You can go against your family history. There's something about becoming a parent that makes the scales fall from our eyes about some of our own family relationships, isn't there? Your own feelings matter.

Thank you this is the validation I need. I agree once I became a parent and having gone through divorce, it has shifted everything for me. And yes it's my siblings not cousins, aunts or uncles, it makes it worse.

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WhatsMyBabysnameAmanda · 21/12/2024 15:46

TowerBallroom · 21/12/2024 09:12

So just a slap in the face to be asked for presents and on top of that have them delivered by another relative who they do want to see.

Send a jolly HNY text

Dear Bill and Joan* Cheeky grabby fuckers
Happy New Year!
Hope you had a lovely Christmas!?
Going forward we won't be doing presents this year as we are cutting down for environmental reasons , I'm sure you understand?!
All the best for 2025!!!! Northern

This is perfect.

There’s no point forcing a meet up with people who aren’t interested. Best to just save your energy for new, better relationships going forward x

ChristmasinBrighton · 21/12/2024 14:48

I would just message back saying “don’t worry about coming to collect Sam’s presents Alex, I am looking forward to swapping presents with them when I see them. “

Mintupp · 21/12/2024 14:44

Sorry I should've elaborated more.
We don't see SIL and her kids because BIL is unbearable and the children are awfully behaved. I'm not saying this is what your family member is seeing in you, but what I mean is there's usually reasons why people won't meet up. Often it's the person themselves, and what's going on in their life. Basically they're not prioritising you for some reason. And on top of that they're probably aware that it's not good enough but they're doing it anyway. I wonder if your family member is going through something?
Also, it wasn't uncommon when I was growing up that my aunty and uncle would drop and run. No big family meet up type thing. In some family's people tend to meet on mass at weddings/funerals/big bbqs etc, not necessarily Xmas and bdays because it can be hard work rallying the kids.

MsXmasGGMasterTwat · 21/12/2024 14:18

I think that's fine if it works for you @Mintupp , we are all different. I am not sure the OP feels like it is working for her though.

Mintupp · 21/12/2024 12:13

Okay so I'm going to go against the grain here but this is what we do with DH's sister's kids' presents.its not all black and white like people on here are saying. Not everyone gets on but you might still want to buy their child a present, and rather than an awkward meet up, why not just drop the presents and leave them to it?

Printedword · 21/12/2024 11:18

DH has 3 siblings - we exchange cards and gifts as appr. to ages of children and family views on gifts for grown ups. One SIL we see all the time as she has a regular gig with DH. The other 2 siblings we don't often see at all but are on good terms with. Meet up or no meet up feels like it doesn't have any bearing on gifting practices to me.

All GPs and sibling on my side have passed as away. We see my SIL, nephew and kids over the Christmas hols. Other nephew lives abroad. We gift to all of these.

We prefer a quiet family Christmas and not one where we are travelling to see people all over the country. Lots of people are like that and find family bearing gifts in person, wanting to be fed or wanting you to feed you wearing.

Mooetenchante · 21/12/2024 10:25

I would say to them that you feel meeting up is more important to you and why don't we quit the present exchanging, or at least leave it till a meet up.

Posting presents is a hassle.

GRex · 21/12/2024 10:19

Post the presents and next year say you've decided to cut down on gifts, so won't be doing any now. If you want to see them then arrange that at a quieter time of year.

Ohnobackagain · 21/12/2024 09:58

@Northerndownhere the way they’ve done it is really cheeky if close enough to pop over. Just say ‘no, not sending them, you can have then when I see you next’ and if they say that’s too late I’d just take them back to the shop. Shouldn’t just be about presents.

Tessasanderson · 21/12/2024 09:57

I hate how this has crept into my families Christmas routines. Its also become normalised on birthdays. Dropping presents off or exchanging presents without any real social interaction is pretty much saying its a present you need to buy someone to tick a box rather than because you want to.

Snugglemonkey · 21/12/2024 09:53

Northerndownhere · 20/12/2024 19:19

Thank you. I am finding Christmasses harder and harder as the years roll by.

Very disappointed as I stupidly bought presents requested (stating clearly I was not expecting anything) and I've been asking to arrange to meet but nothing back just being asked to pass on the presents. With less than a week to go I've realised I have no plans to see them.

Toxic and odd as anything. I am older and wiser since I hit 50 last year and it's very sad to realise this.

I would not be giving these people gifts.

MsXmasGGMasterTwat · 21/12/2024 09:51

I listen to ‘Walk to Well-being’ podcasts on my treadmill. This situation reminds me of an episode with a psychologist who talked about it being ok to let go of relationships that had run their course. The referral was to friendships really, but could be applied here.

Qwerty111 · 21/12/2024 09:48

I would just say “I would rather meet up to exchange presents properly, let’s arrange something for the new year”. And to the person who’s wanting to play postman “No need, thanks, x and I will be exchanging presents properly when we next meet up”.

Same message every time, word for word, don’t feel like you need to explain or justify yourself - what you want is completely normal, what they want is transactional and weird.

ForOliveDog · 21/12/2024 09:45

We did this for some years…BIL would expect gifts dropped off, often wasn’t even in when he said he would be to see us so we would leave gifts in the porch, not see anyone or get any gifts back for our kids! Thing is he also has ALOT of kids, 3 different mums, we only have 2 kids so the expense for us was huge! Gave up a few years ago. Nieces and Nephews wouldn’t even know who the gifts were from they saw us that little! Make this your last year of making an effort for them OP x

cleanasawhistle · 21/12/2024 09:41

I wouldn't bother either.
Christmas is such an expensive time and I don't see the point of making it more costly by buying gifts for people who can't make time for each other.

I arranged last year to meet with a friend before Xmas to give her gifts for her four children who I have always bought for and spent time with.
Kept getting fobbed off.
She turned up on my door step one morning but didn't have time to come in.
So I handed the presents over.
Not heard from her since.
Message a few days ago saying must catch up soon...so I am guessing she is expecting presents.
I haven't bought any

...if I am not good enough then neither is my money

Bollihobs · 21/12/2024 09:33

Northerndownhere · 21/12/2024 06:41

It's not just someone I don't see. It's not even more than a texting conversation every few months, usually initiated by me.

The people in question are my siblings. They have arranged to meet but neither has mentioned meeting up with me.

Oh goodness Northern, that's even worse!

Sibling relationships can be bloody awful, being 'stuck' with people you have only DNA in common with but nothing else.

You sound a million times better than them, ditch the gifts, ditch the sibs, and move forward from their rubbish, you are so much better than that!

Rhaidimiddim · 21/12/2024 09:29

Northerndownhere · 21/12/2024 00:07

I suppose you mean that you exchange gifts then see each other socially another time. That's not the same. I don't have much of a relationship at all, I make all the effort to contact. Birthdays and Christmas and otherwise. Rarely do I even get a text message asking me how I am.

So just a slap in the face to be asked for presents and on top of that have them delivered by another relative who they do want to see.

So make this the last year that you do this. Give yourself the gift of not minding from now on that this part of your family has no time for you.

You can have the "let's not do presents this year" conversation at an appropriate point next year.

Member984815 · 21/12/2024 09:28

If I wasn't particularly close with them I wouldn't buy anything for them. In my own family some siblings don't buy for adults , and after years of buying gifts I started to match their energy . They put little to no effort into gifts for my kids for years so now I've gone down the same route this year . Last year they complained that the kids got too much of something they are known for giving every year to ours , I hadn't given this item but I did this year . I need to dial back the Christmas spend and stress

Browningstown · 21/12/2024 09:26

You poor woman.
What utterly toxic people.
I cannot fathom being asked for gifts from people I do not see.
Dropping off gifts to a house that wouldn't open the door.

Honestly OP please stop.
What damage to your soul, well-being, self esteem this must do.

Please save your money and simply do not respond further.

Bollihobs · 21/12/2024 09:25

Northerndownhere · 20/12/2024 19:22

Any tips on what a reasonable response would be?

Honestly, whilst you still can I'd return the gifts for my money back and then ignore. Doesn't sound like you'd be losing much to be even lower contact than you are now. Which is really rubbish, you sound lovely, Merry Christmas to you and your DC 🎄