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Exchanging presents but not meeting up

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Northerndownhere · 20/12/2024 19:12

Does anyone only exchange Christmas presents via parcel delivery or via other relatives picking up and dropping off presents at Christmas with no intention of meeting up? I am disappointed that I'm being asked to exchange presents but no actual arrangement of meeting up and socialising. This isn't abroad or even more than 10 miles away. No falling out or bad feeling, just total indifference and no relationship at all. It seems so uncaring and frankly dare I say grabby. I have no interest in presents themselves, I would rather the socialising and care to be shown to myself and DC (one has disabilities). No DH as I'm divorced.

I don't think AIBU but growing up in a toxic family has been questioning myself well into my 50s.

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TheListThatNeverEnds · 28/12/2024 09:27

I think the hardest part can be accepting that you may never know why they are behaving towards you like this, and that trying to "have it out with them" won't gain you anything.

I got left with so many hurt feelings and questions that I've just had to sit on as any attempt I've made to (politely!) work out why my siblings were distancing themselves was shut down or responded to like I was crazy. I have sometimes wondered if it's all in my head, but 3 years of only seeing them when I've tied myself in knots (and still sometimes being cancelled on at the last minute!) surely speaks for itself. I've finally managed to mentally let go of responsibility for their behaviour and our relationship, but it has been hard. You have all my sympathy OP. Hopefully this is the final Christmas of feeling this way for you xx

Vettrianofan · 28/12/2024 09:23

DH's family used to be like this. DH and his brother had children at roughly same time...each Christmas MIL would be the go-between and pick up presents from DH's brother's house to give to our DC, and then MIL would then give presents from us to pass over to them (live 30 minutes drive BTW, not oceans apart). I found it bloody weird. Why not just visit and talk to your sibling? They didn't have a fall out or anything.

About five years ago, it was said that they no longer can afford to exchange Christmas or birthday gifts between the children so it all stopped. Yet when I first brought up what was the point of all this when the children aren't getting a chance to get to know each other I was told that it had to be done that way🤷‍♀️

I personally find it weird. Very weird.

Enterthedragonqueen · 28/12/2024 09:20

I would not buy any gifts until there was a date to see them set first. I don't buy presents for people I don't see because it just ends up being transactional then. Set firm boundaries for Christmas 2025.

TheListThatNeverEnds · 28/12/2024 09:19

Respond as you would if you were trying to arrange a work meeting- no emotion or accusations, just "I'm afraid I'm not available on that date" then either offer (again) dates you are free or ask for more suggestions from them. Don't pursue them beyond this, and make sure the dates you suggest/agree to really work for you. Worst case scenario is presents aren't exchanged, but that won't be your fault and isn't the end of the world.

Browningstown · 28/12/2024 09:14

Give it a day and just say that day doesn't work.
Nothing further.
You cannot change them.
Do yourself a favour and drop the rope.
Giving presents in this situation serves no purpose so best to leave it.
I wouldn't drop them anywhere.
Put them away and say will give them the next time we meet.
The dnd. No futher discussion about it.
Just don't respond further.

Zanatdy · 28/12/2024 08:15

Northerndownhere · 28/12/2024 07:44

What do I even respond with?

Just say that date isn’t suitable, let me know other dates you are free and see what they come back with

Northerndownhere · 28/12/2024 08:14

Smashingwatermelons · 28/12/2024 07:58

It might be best for you to stop putting energy into this. If they’ve left presents at DPs, I would do the same so it’s settled.

You can then move forward the way you want, and not give it more headspace.
You are still chasing them now, and it’s keeping you busy. Leave the presents, repeat for yourself that your dcs are worth more than the crumbs of attention and focus on moving on.

Yes it is consuming my energy and efforts. I don't like it and I'm trying my best to put a lid on my own expectations. You are right about the crumbs. I just want to give a dignified response to show my feelings about it.

They didn't personally leave the presents at DPs. They also have no intention of visiting DPs. How humiliating if I have to now ask the other sibling to deliver the presents whilst they have already made another plan to meet without me.

Some people are just so rubbish.

I'd welcome suggestions on what to respond, this is giving me anxiety.

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Smashingwatermelons · 28/12/2024 07:58

It might be best for you to stop putting energy into this. If they’ve left presents at DPs, I would do the same so it’s settled.

You can then move forward the way you want, and not give it more headspace.
You are still chasing them now, and it’s keeping you busy. Leave the presents, repeat for yourself that your dcs are worth more than the crumbs of attention and focus on moving on.

Northerndownhere · 28/12/2024 07:44

What do I even respond with?

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Northerndownhere · 28/12/2024 07:44

Zanatdy · 28/12/2024 07:40

Sometimes if I can’t go back for Christmas but always do in person if i’m up that way. Even if just half hour (people always busy christmas eve), it’s nice to catch up. I wouldn’t bother if I didn’t see these people who don’t want to meet up.

Yes exactly. I know where I'm not wanted. It's twice they have made arrangements between them then told after.

I may be being sensitive but I know where I am not wanted and has always been like this. I am hurt more for my DC that they aren't wanted and just an afterthought.

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Zanatdy · 28/12/2024 07:40

Sometimes if I can’t go back for Christmas but always do in person if i’m up that way. Even if just half hour (people always busy christmas eve), it’s nice to catch up. I wouldn’t bother if I didn’t see these people who don’t want to meet up.

Northerndownhere · 28/12/2024 07:38

I hope everyone has had a good Christmas. Update and need advice and this situation gets more ridiculous. I need to choose my words wisely.

So the presents were left at my DPs and I received them when I visited them with DC. Saw one of siblings who mentioned nothing of the other sibling in terms of meeting.

So I obviously thanked the other sibling by text, asked to meet and gave my availability again to meet to give them presents and for them to see DC. Their response was questioning my availability and then giving me a date (when I already said I am not free) when they are meeting the other sibling. No details, no asking me to join. Just stating it and asking am I free. Honestly I am struggling on what to even respond as again I feel it's rude and hurtful being again left out despite my efforts.

I want to tell them all to get to fuck but want some more choice words as they have a mean streak and I don't want to give them the satisfaction. Any tips please.

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WigglyVonWaggly · 24/12/2024 23:48

You absolutely should return the presents! Gifts are meant to be an enjoyable experience, given with love and appreciated by the recipient. They can barely be arsed to text you. Your present money would be better spent on a treat for yourself or on someone else very deserving.

Qwerty111 · 24/12/2024 22:35

Of course you should return the presents and spend the money on your decent friends, or your children, or yourself!

Set a date on which you will do that - 4 weeks or 8 or whatever feels right to you. If there are no arrangements for a proper catch up by that date, then do it, with no guilt.

Browningstown · 24/12/2024 10:01

Of course you can.
And if they come looking for them, have a cheap selection box for each of them ready.
Job done.

Northerndownhere · 24/12/2024 08:46

Browningstown · 24/12/2024 00:39

Refund the presents.
Have a great Christmas.
Reprocosity in all relationships only for 2025.
Anything else is a waste of your time.

Thank you that's how I feel really.

Very tempted to refund the presents but I surely can't dare to do that!

I hope everyone has a good Christmas.

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Northerndownhere · 24/12/2024 00:43

DancingOctopus · 23/12/2024 22:42

This happens to us and makes me so sad. One family member hasn't seen my children for five years. Children do a lot of growing in five years.

Rubbish isn't it when your own family don't seem bothered about seeing your DC. That's a big realisation for me. I also realised that my DC don't need these relatives for crumbs of affection.

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Browningstown · 24/12/2024 00:39

Refund the presents.
Have a great Christmas.
Reprocosity in all relationships only for 2025.
Anything else is a waste of your time.

DancingOctopus · 23/12/2024 22:42

This happens to us and makes me so sad. One family member hasn't seen my children for five years. Children do a lot of growing in five years.

Northerndownhere · 23/12/2024 22:25

Update: thanks for the encouraging messages on this thread. I messaged saying it would be nice to see them with my availability and got a vague response. Messaged the present-deliverer to say I was hoping to arrange a time to meet so they didn't need to collect my presents for passing on. Neither of them even expressed a desire to see me and DC. I couldn't care less anymore really. I look back at previous Christmasses and see where I've gone wrong, investing so much energy and hope where it's ignored and ridiculed. This holiday I will put my energy elsewhere. I have a handful of friends who are making the effort and I am grateful. I am letting go of this mattering to me at all.

Very tempted to refund the presents though that might be petty at this point!

I hope everyone who has posted similar is OK and will have a peaceful and happy Christmas. I will keep on posting updates.

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Northerndownhere · 22/12/2024 06:11

Amplepie · 21/12/2024 21:31

I've been so upset about it for so long. This year I tried talking to my mum about it and she seemed to start to see it's upsetting for me, but nothing has changed. I try to remind myself it's their different attitude to Christmas and family, not about me personally. But it still hurts. And it still is personal, in that it's me (and my DC) who's left out. I think they genuinely just don't think about it/see it.

It is incredibly hurtful to be excluded. I've found the comments here helpful to encourage me that it's ok to break away from the toxic relationships with family and concentrate on the good friendships I have from this point forward. Sorry you are going through this as well. Hope you and DC have a great Christmas.

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WigglyVonWaggly · 21/12/2024 21:44

If that’s all they ever want to meet you for, I’d stop the tradition on that basis. Why buy gifts for people who don’t really bother with you until it’s time for a present? Just buy gifts for people you’re close to / see. Tell them you’re buying for immediate family that you’re in close contact with only. They are adults - they can get used to it.

Amplepie · 21/12/2024 21:32

I try to focus on my DC and how happy he is, too. He doesn't know any different, so os perfectly happy with a quiet Christmas.

Amplepie · 21/12/2024 21:31

Northerndownhere · 21/12/2024 21:19

Sorry you are going through this too. As others have said it is time to put your efforts elsewhere but it's still hurtful.

Do you know why they do so? How do you handle it?

I've been so upset about it for so long. This year I tried talking to my mum about it and she seemed to start to see it's upsetting for me, but nothing has changed. I try to remind myself it's their different attitude to Christmas and family, not about me personally. But it still hurts. And it still is personal, in that it's me (and my DC) who's left out. I think they genuinely just don't think about it/see it.

Northerndownhere · 21/12/2024 21:19

Amplepie · 21/12/2024 21:10

Same here, with my mum, brother, sister in law.
Myself and DC left alone for Christmas every year. Don't live far away, either.

Sorry you are going through this too. As others have said it is time to put your efforts elsewhere but it's still hurtful.

Do you know why they do so? How do you handle it?

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