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YourLivelyRedBiscuit · 20/12/2024 19:01

I'm in early stages of getting a property with partner - mortgage approved and started processing documents with solicitors so not very far. Mum initially promised that myself and my partner could live in current place for 'as long as it took' and my partner gave notice on his rented accommodation - landlord is selling anyway - and is leaving there February. Now she is saying that my current flat - which does belong to her TBF - needs to go on market first thing in the new year. It is her property and she can of course do what she likes with it but initially she very kindly said we could BOTH use it as a stopgap while our new house process was underway or if there was a delay. This took my partner by surprise and although he understands that he is not my mum's responsibility , we both feel taken aback by the change of heart and I feel stuck in the middle. I feel I owe it to her as she has helped me with the purchase by charging me reduced living costs. Partner says he will just get an air BnB for a while but I felt embarrassed having to communicate the change of heart and I feel stuck in the middle. I am also worried that she said that would give me XYZ money but actually turned out it was ABC money. As I said I am grateful for any help she has given me but just feel a bit let down as she has promised this then gone back on her word.

I also would like a couple or weeks or so to upgrade the flat a bit before estate agents take pictures eg. Replacing bathroom taps and bathroom lino.

How best to communicate this without her throwing back "it's my property' in my face?

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YourLivelyRedBiscuit · 21/12/2024 13:08

Thanks everyone.

Spoken to my partner and he is thinking it would be too cramped anyway with him in it and taking photos etc with both all our stuff there so he may well take an Airbnb regardless. It's only a one bed flat.

I am so extremely grateful for my mother's help and she has done the same for my sister.

I have plumbers visiting already tomorrow regarding the tap job. I think also the towel rail needs replacing, I painted over it with specialist paint a while ago as was already rusting soon after moving in but this is wearing off and looking a bit rough. I have reasonable quotes for labour for both and I am hoping I can get an even better deal on the towel rail and tap itself in the January sales.

The lino is to be redone last after these messy jobs. Of course I feel that yes morally I have to do it. The bathroom is relatively small so should not be too bad, I had it redone when I first moved and was less than £100 for everything iirc. Probably more now but heyho...

Mum is really so kind, I am embarrassed to tell her about the repairs and in a way would like for it to be a nice surprise for her, leaving flat in best state possible of course as I would do naturally. However she has actually said that she knows she'll take a loss on it, as prices haven't gone up anyway for these flats.

Partner has a very good stable job and is paying a larger proportion of deposit - so together we have put a large one down so that we have a 25% of house value already. He is savvy with money but comes from a country where house purchasing is less common and people live in apartments instead and his parents are going spare at the amount of money he is spending already so I think he will leave them out of it completely. I remember him being upset because they - his parents - said they had put some money away for him towards a future house purchase but then said they didn't have it which actually at the time my Mum said was an awful thing to do.

I am really very lucky and just overreacted. Tired and hormonal hahaha!

Thanks everyone

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latetothefisting · 21/12/2024 12:37

ConstanceM · 20/12/2024 20:15

Did you ever pay her rent? Or was the flat rent free? Morally, you should replace the taps and lino. Your damage, your cost. No?

OP has LITERALLY said this is her plan, so it's a bit unnecessary to passively aggressively query it, no?

I think you're getting a hard time OP. No, you're not entitled to your mum's money, but if she didn't want to give it to you, or have you stay in her flat beyond a set time, she shouldn't have made the offer in the first place! Offering something (in fact several things) and then going back on it when you had made plans taking it into account is rude, and it's shitty that both she, and your partner's parents have done it.

It's weird that posters are calling you entitled when it's not as if you asked for money - both parents apparently voluntarily offered - which is completely normal, apparently more than half of first time buyers homes are at least partly funded by the "bank of mum and dad."

On the bright side, if you are further along in the buying process than she is in the selling one, then even if she does put it up for sale in January it seems unlikely that she will have sold her flat before you've bought your new home.

I'm also a bit confused as to why your boyfriend is saying he will go into an air bnb - either you will still be in the flat in which case why can't he move in with you briefly as planned, it won't make any difference to your mum being able to sell it whether both of you are living there or just one person? or you will have left the flat in which case can't he just move to wherever you are planning on going?

Nc92982822 · 21/12/2024 12:13

This is definitely one of the massive cons of living in an unofficial rent arrangement with a family member as the owner. I was the partner in a similar situation to yours and had moved a very long way to live in a house we were told we could live in for 18 months only for the owner to decide after 8 weeks that actually, they were selling the house now and we needed to be out ASAP and we suddenly had to scramble around for rent deposits, somewhere to live and movers within a fortnight of being told. The rush meant we ended up in somewhere unsuitable because we were on the cusp of being homeless.

FWIW I definitely didn’t hold it against the partner I had at the time as he was just as dumbfounded as I was, however it did make me decide never to agree to that sort of living situation again.

BlueSky2023 · 21/12/2024 12:04

her timing sounds right, you should be in your new place before a sale is completed on the flat that you are currently living in

GivingitToGod · 21/12/2024 11:35

saltandvinegarchipsticks · 20/12/2024 19:05

Why would you pay to upgrade your mums property, surely that’s for her to sort out?

Is she actually asking you to leave before she markets the flat? Given that you’ve presumably found somewhere to buy, you may well get your move sorted before your mum sorts a buyer and gets to exchange.

Agree, the whole buying/selling/exchange/completion process is extremely lengthy.
Don't know the full story re your mum changing money agreements/amounts but there could be more to it?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 21/12/2024 11:35

YourLivelyRedBiscuit · 20/12/2024 19:06

Because I have stained the lino and can't get it out 😭 I also used a cleaner that stained the taps and the shower hose needed replacing anyway so I was just going to replace everything there

I really wouldn't pay to replace anything because it's entirely possible that the next owner would rip it all out anyway.

Lillixyng · 21/12/2024 11:32

I don’t think it is worth rocking the boat as that might make her have second thoughts about helping you. As the flat is not on the market yet, is it possible that you would move before it is sold. There is little you can actually do, just hold your tongue and let her know how grateful you are. What are your plans if completion on the flat does not happen before your house is ready?

crockofshite · 21/12/2024 11:08

putting a property on the market doesnt guarantee it will sell any time soon. It could take up to 6 months. Will you have moved to your own property within a few months anyway?

caringcarer · 21/12/2024 10:52

However quickly your Mum wants to sell it still takes about 10-12 weeks for searches to be completed and contracts exchanged. Solicitors often take on more work than they can cope with so their are delays.

Normallynumb · 21/12/2024 10:30

I think you're overthinking
It takes time to sell a property and most house buyers/ sellers exchange and CV complete on the same day
Even if she agreed an offer tomorrow, it could take a couple of months to complete on her sale
Landlords put property on the market with tenants in situ.
I get that it's unsettling when goalposts change but she might have her money invested where notice is needed for withdrawal for example.
You and your DM have got your wires crossed and you need to ask her to clarify.
Do your best to clean and replace broken and stained bits in bathroom but a stain probably wouldn't put a serious buyer off

naemates · 21/12/2024 10:12

Why is your partner getting an air bnb without you?

Ohnobackagain · 21/12/2024 10:05

@YourLivelyRedBiscuit just have a conversation about expectations. Make sure you keep pressure on your purchase so it doesn’t drag on. Take the stuff you bought with you. I’d get the lino and taps/hose sorted. I doubt your Mum expects you to move out before your purchase goes through but she probably wants things moving. It will likely take a few months even if it goes on the market immediately.

RubyOrca · 21/12/2024 09:26

I get being worried, housing uncertainty is stressful. But I also understand your mother wanting to sell especially since you’re moving anyway.

I’m not in the UK and my understanding is that buying/selling is a potentially lengthy process where nobody knows what’s happening for much of it (we sign contracts often within a day or two of first offer usually within 2 weeks it’s locked in and you can’t back out, with transfer anywhere from 30 -60 days after signing contact common), which makes it even more unsettling.

Time for some backup planning on your side (what to do if your plane falls through or is delayed) and calm conversation with your mother about getting the place ready to sell. It may be that she needs this to move on as she needs the money (especially as she’s not getting rent). It’s unlikely she’s just waiting to cause trouble.

RBowmama · 21/12/2024 09:25

I think it was unfair for your mum to change her mind about such important things. I wouldn't do that to my children and I don't think you and your partner are expecting handouts as it were but it seems your parents offered to help. Which is a lovely thing to be able to do given how hard it is. Our parents helped us siblings where they could and I intend to do the same for my children, that's just what we do in our family. And we all work hard too, our parents aren't wealthy they just offer whatever they could financially, be it not charging rent, looking after grandchildren, buying things for a new house.

Unexpecteddrivinginstructor · 21/12/2024 09:08

Most of the time buying one place is contingent on selling another place often you will exchange contracts on both the property that you sell and buy on the same day. Once exchanged you essentially commit to buy/sell the property. All you need to do is ask your mother if she is willing to delay exchange of contracts (if her sale is progressing faster than your purchase) until you have exchanged on your purchase.

Are you and BF putting in a similar amount? Are you ringfencing any excess? Do you have a similar income? Make sure that you are protected going into the agreement.

TriptoTipp · 21/12/2024 08:56

MimiSunshine · 21/12/2024 05:53

What a terrible way to ‘teach your child a lesson’

Promising significant financial support when your child is buying a property and then bailing with no clear explanation is abusive.

OP assume no more help or promised money is coming and make your own plans accordingly

Promising significant financial support when your child is buying a property and then bailing with no clear explanation is abusive.

This is what the BFs parents did tho (apparently) not the OPs DM. Seems they bailed completely with no explanation.

What was the BFs explanation for this (did he feel 'stuck in the middle', 'embarassed to communicate' this to OP and 'let down' and was he as stressed as the OP)?

Maybe the OPs DM is 'unsettled' by this change as she undertsood that there was (equal?) financial support coming from the otherside and alarm bells rung when this dropped to zero?

The OPs DM has gobe over and above - she has not bailed. She has rescheduled one chunk of £10k and she is getting her flat on the market in time with no hint that they will be evicted. Their house purchase in underway - the flat is not even on the market. Conveyancing for flats generally takes longer than houses so OP is well ahead from a time perspective.

My alarm bells are ringing with the BF demanding the OPs DM has money reading for their legal bills.....

My suspicion is that the BF parents never had any money on the table .... but I'm old and cynical as I have seen enough in life so.....

Promising significant financial support when you are buying a property and then bailing with no clear explanation is abusive.

The only person to have done this is the OPs BF

Starzinsky · 21/12/2024 08:41

How long have you been there? Your buying a house and hers is not on the market yet so you will be moved into your new house before it's sold. What's the issue?

LameBorzoi · 21/12/2024 06:08

I get it. No matter how grateful you are for money, help etc, big promises that don't eventuate are annoying. Especially when you make plans based on those promises.

EwwSprouts · 21/12/2024 05:58

Gazelda · 20/12/2024 19:22

Pragmatically, she's probably thinking that you and BF will soon be on your way, and she'd rather not have the flat empty longer than necessary. So it makes sense to put it on the market in the new year and take things from there.

Maybe she needs to recoup the sale value to cover what she's contributing to your new place?

You and BF seem to have reacted quite dramatically, rather than having an open conversation with someone who's being very generous to you and not given any pressure.

This in spades.

MimiSunshine · 21/12/2024 05:53

AuContraire · 20/12/2024 19:37

Then let this be a lesson to you both to stand on your own two feet.

Maybe both his parents and your mum are touring of you both taking little financial responsibility for yourselves? You both do seem to expect a lot of other people's money.

What a terrible way to ‘teach your child a lesson’

Promising significant financial support when your child is buying a property and then bailing with no clear explanation is abusive.

OP assume no more help or promised money is coming and make your own plans accordingly

Dodgydodgydodgy · 20/12/2024 20:38

I think you may have got crossed wires. Your DM wants to sell so she is not lumbered with bills when you leave.

I don’t imagine she is going to throw you out.

Talk to her.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 20/12/2024 20:35

"Mum, I just wanted to double check that you're still ok for me to stay in the flat until my purchase completes? I know you said you want to put it on the market, but I just wanted to clarify that I won't have to leave before my new home is ready to move into? Love, YourLivelyRedBiscuit xxx"

ChristmasinBrighton · 20/12/2024 20:35

I’m really confused. You don’t own the property, so why are you fretting about replacing or upgrading things before sale, or worrying about the photos?

TwinkleLights24 · 20/12/2024 20:31

I’d think fair enough and plan to move out of her property ASAP.

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