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To remove the toilet from the en suite?

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EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 18:29

I’m interested in how people would react if buying a house with an en-suite shower room instead of a more traditional complete en-suite with shower, toilet and basin.

Current set up:
Four bedroom house.

Main family bathroom has toilet, basin, bath with shower over.

Master bedroom has en-suite with toilet, basin and small shower cubicle.

There is a downstairs loo off the hall.

What I want to do:
Remove toilet from the en-suite and replace the shower cubicle with a nice big walk- in shower (not a wet room, a bigger contained modern shower enclosure).

I know MN has Opinions on en-suites and hates the idea of ‘poo-ing off your bedroom’ - but my question is:

YABU - an en-suite should have a toilet

YANBU - a shower room off the master bedroom is much better

I’m a firm believer in having your house how you want it but am thinking of how buyers would react when I do come to sell.

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Blondeshavemorefun · 20/12/2024 19:18

En suites are fab as long as not a poo loo

Nothing worse then Trying to sleep with the stench of shit

Or make into a total wet room with a toilet one side

PenisWine · 20/12/2024 19:18

I'd much prefer a toilet to a shower in an en suite.

We're buying at the moment, a shower but no toilet would put me off.

NewGreenDuck · 20/12/2024 19:17

I would not buy a property with no loo in the en suite. I like to move from the loo to the shower. My shower cubicle is small but it's fine, I can wash myself easily. The shower in the bathroom is bigger and I don't see any difference.
BTW, if people find using the loo in an ensuite distasteful, do you feel the same about having a bathroom next to your bedroom? To me that's just the same. Loo and bathroom divided by a wall.

DeffoNeedANameChange · 20/12/2024 19:16

I'd rather spend a bit more money remodelling properly to make an actual wet room than spending still quite a lot of money on what would be an odd solution. Surely everyone has a wee before they get in the shower?

EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 19:13

Yes, @MathsMum3 i would keep the basin. I do my makeup in the mirror over the basin too.

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EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 19:12

I don’t have any children, @FlickeringFairyLight - we are two adults in the house and I use the en-suite loo and he uses the main bathroom loo!! While the en-suite shower never gets used. That’s why I’m so interested in MN views as the buyers are more likely to be a family.

That slim sink you gave me the link to is genius. I can see there are options I hadn’t considered past my quite obvious solution!

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MathsMum3 · 20/12/2024 19:11

We have the exact same set-up as you have currently. To be clear, would you lose the basin also, or just the toilet? I would definitely want my ensuite to have a basin (and mirror over) for teeth brushing and make up etc., but I could live without the toilet. I never use it during the night anyway for fear of waking up DP (I actually rarely get up during the night, but if I do, I use family bathroom or downstairs loo). However, my DP would think differently. He is of an age where he does get up once or twice per night so would want to keep the toilet in the ensuite.
In terms of house value and potential buyers, I don't think it will make that much difference. I would do whatever makes you happy and suits you best now. It's your home, so you need to make it work for you.

FlickeringFairyLight · 20/12/2024 19:04

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EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 18:59

I think people choose houses for many reasons but this surely would be the very bottom of the list as it can be changed easily.

You’re quite right, @Crazybaby123, but if the house up the street is ‘more perfect’ then mine would be discounted.

I’m in a very small village and there are 40 houses on this new-ish development; only 4 are the same house style as mine. Ours has been extended. So I think if you wanted a four-bed in this village ours would be attractive. When we are ready to move, though, we will be needing to relocate, and I don’t want to hamper myself.

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honeylulu · 20/12/2024 18:58

I would keep a toilet but get a really slim "airline" style one, ideally with integrated wash basin over the cistern as a pp has suggested, to make as much room as possible for a bigger shower. I'm not a huge en suite fan and I don't mind a separate toilet but it still has to be right next door to the bathroom, not down a corridor. I can't tell you how many times I start running the shower and realise I need a quick wee before I hop in. Plus the loo is so handy when dealing with period stuff!

Another bonus of the slimline toilet (we have one squeezed into an extra bathroom in our loft conversion) is that it's not super comfy so OK for a quick wee but will discourage any family member from fancying a leisurely poo in the en suite!

WasteOfPaint · 20/12/2024 18:58

I don't even like ensuites, but I'd still want it to have a toilet in if I had one.

SuperfluousHen · 20/12/2024 18:56

The only good thing about an en-suite is the bog.

Didimum · 20/12/2024 18:54

EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 18:39

One family bathroom with shower over bath

One (new) shower room

Two toilets (one upstairs and one downstairs)

Currently three toilets including the one in the en-suite.

It’s the loss of the toilet that causes the negative for you?

Yes, because it’s not a a fully useable bathroom. We are in a 4 bed with two kids and have two family bathrooms and a downstairs loo, which is a real perk with a family of four, especially as the kids get older and everyone is getting ready in the morning.

If the en-suite/shower room has a nice, large shower, as opposed to a small one, it would be even stranger to me that it has no toilet – as it would sort of have a luxury feel but then to not have a toilet in a set up like that would be quite annoying.

Of course your house would still sell at the right price, but it is still a negative.

murasaki · 20/12/2024 18:53

I don't want anyone shitting right next to my bedroom, so I agree with you.

Maray1967 · 20/12/2024 18:53

Weyohweyoh · 20/12/2024 18:31

I wouldn’t buy a house with a toiletless en suite. I have to get up to pee in the night far too often for that!

Same here. We don’t have one in the master bedroom- our en-suite is in the loft room - but I am definitely having one in our next house and it definitely needs a toilet.

Crazybaby123 · 20/12/2024 18:51

Unless you are planning to sell in a year thrn do what you want. Or one option could be to keep plumbing for a toilet but boxbit in so it woule be easy to add a toilet in the future. People saying they would dismiss a whole house because of this feature, I can't believe they are telling the truth. I think people choose houses for many reasons but this surely would be the very bottom of the list as it can be changed easily.

EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 18:44

UndermyShoeJoe · 20/12/2024 18:40

Any chance or loosing a bit of bedroom to make it big enough for both?

However much I wouldn’t want people pooping in there for night time wee’s or when someone else is hogging other bathrooms I’d want the toilet.

With the layout of the house, not an option. I am conscious A Diagram should have been provided 😁

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EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 18:42

Bushmillsbabe · 20/12/2024 18:40

Can you change the shower in the main bathroom instead? Our ensuite is tiny but main bathroom quite big, so we put a lovely big shower in there instead, and if I'm having a long shower I use that one, and if I'm having a quick wash I use our ensuite shower.
Not having a toilet in the ensuite would definitely be a deal breaker for me. At bedtime one of our children does shower toilet and teeth in ours and 1 in the main bathroom which makes life so much quicker and easier. If I'm in the main bathroom there is still a toilet upstairs if someone needs to go.
But ultimately it depends if you think likely to sell. We are in our forever home and are doing what suits us as we don't intend to ever leave our home .

I really don’t want to lose the bath in the main bathroom as I am a total mermaid and I soak in it for ages! There isn’t space for a separate walk-in shower AND the bath, sadly.

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5128gap · 20/12/2024 18:42

I use the toilet in my en suite more than I use the shower and woukd prefer to share a shower with family members than a toilet, so it would be seriously off putting for me.

SiobhanSharpe · 20/12/2024 18:41

It's funny -- we have a spacious en-suite with loo but during the night I tend to walk a few steps further to the main bathroom.
I can only think it's because the ensuite is on the further side of the room than the side where I get out of the bed. (It may be that I can't be arsed to turn twice to get around the bed...)

mynameiscalypso · 20/12/2024 18:41

I also think that two toilets for a four bed house isn't ideal (although clearly many people cope with it just fine!). It would put me off for sure though

EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 18:40

Heronwatcher · 20/12/2024 18:37

Could you maybe think about a wet room or changing something else- like a toilet with basin on top- to save some space?

That’s a very good shout. The nice new shower could then run along the left hand side of the room, the toilet stays where it is but a better one with basin on top. I like your thinking @Heronwatcher!

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UndermyShoeJoe · 20/12/2024 18:40

Any chance or loosing a bit of bedroom to make it big enough for both?

However much I wouldn’t want people pooping in there for night time wee’s or when someone else is hogging other bathrooms I’d want the toilet.

Bushmillsbabe · 20/12/2024 18:40

Can you change the shower in the main bathroom instead? Our ensuite is tiny but main bathroom quite big, so we put a lovely big shower in there instead, and if I'm having a long shower I use that one, and if I'm having a quick wash I use our ensuite shower.
Not having a toilet in the ensuite would definitely be a deal breaker for me. At bedtime one of our children does shower toilet and teeth in ours and 1 in the main bathroom which makes life so much quicker and easier. If I'm in the main bathroom there is still a toilet upstairs if someone needs to go.
But ultimately it depends if you think likely to sell. We are in our forever home and are doing what suits us as we don't intend to ever leave our home .

Moversnotshakers · 20/12/2024 18:40

We've just done rhe opposite removed the small shower in the en suite and got nice loo, sink drawer unit and storage wall cupboard on where the shower was. We do have a large walk in shower in main bathroom though..