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To remove the toilet from the en suite?

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EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 18:29

I’m interested in how people would react if buying a house with an en-suite shower room instead of a more traditional complete en-suite with shower, toilet and basin.

Current set up:
Four bedroom house.

Main family bathroom has toilet, basin, bath with shower over.

Master bedroom has en-suite with toilet, basin and small shower cubicle.

There is a downstairs loo off the hall.

What I want to do:
Remove toilet from the en-suite and replace the shower cubicle with a nice big walk- in shower (not a wet room, a bigger contained modern shower enclosure).

I know MN has Opinions on en-suites and hates the idea of ‘poo-ing off your bedroom’ - but my question is:

YABU - an en-suite should have a toilet

YANBU - a shower room off the master bedroom is much better

I’m a firm believer in having your house how you want it but am thinking of how buyers would react when I do come to sell.

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EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 21/12/2024 06:53

soundsys · 20/12/2024 22:14

I would love this but looks like I'm in a minority!

There are about five of us and yes, I’m surprised at the strong toilet love and very glad I asked!

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ConstanceM · 21/12/2024 00:57

3 toilets in a house wins all day long. You can't have an ensuite without a toilet, it's like having a fry up without sausages. The first thing a buyer will ask is "Where's the toilet?", I've never heard anyone think or say it's like pooing in the room. Fans and or windows solve that. En suites came in very handy during noravirus, try running across the house demented, all night day, vomitting and pooing the bug out. Keep the bog.

Shoemadlady · 20/12/2024 23:20

Have a look at the space saving toilets. It's a loo underneath and a basin above the cistern. You could have one of those and a shower as you wouldn't need a separate hand basin then.

Needanewjob101 · 20/12/2024 22:58

I seem to be in the minority here but I would actually love this! I do hate the idea of ensuites usually though as don't need to hear my partner pooing in the bedroom

GreengrassofW · 20/12/2024 22:57

MereDintofPandiculation · 20/12/2024 22:51

Yes, that's what we've done (though the shower area is full height). The whole room is only 5ft wide (maybe less), but the shower area doesn't feel in the least cramped.

Yes you don't need as much space as you might imagine, let's see a diagram OP!

I'm sure you can have all 3 things and feel very spacious !

Bloonket · 20/12/2024 22:55

Spend some time researching small en-suite bathrooms.
A more modern shower room, without the “tray” and a more modern glass pivot door can help perhaps gain another inch or so.

There are more compact toilets, ones on an angle from a corner etc than can get you another inch. Good planning, and use of compact fittings will get you more.

Shower room, in bedroom without toilet will put off buyers. When you want to sell, you want it sold quickly. You never know.

Dogsintheyard · 20/12/2024 22:53

Please don’t put a wet room on an upper floor….

MereDintofPandiculation · 20/12/2024 22:51

GreengrassofW · 20/12/2024 22:29

Is your shower currently in a 'capsule'? I think that might be your issue - they do feel very claustrophobic.
Could make the shower tray same height as floor, so it feels more 'walk in'
and then use a glass door but for only half of it so it doesn't feel tight. Like this clever person has done in their beautiful en-suite, (not me). Very simple, doesn't use much space.

Edited

Yes, that's what we've done (though the shower area is full height). The whole room is only 5ft wide (maybe less), but the shower area doesn't feel in the least cramped.

MereDintofPandiculation · 20/12/2024 22:49

EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 18:39

One family bathroom with shower over bath

One (new) shower room

Two toilets (one upstairs and one downstairs)

Currently three toilets including the one in the en-suite.

It’s the loss of the toilet that causes the negative for you?

Two toilets isn't many for a four bedroomed house, we're running on two toilets at the moment, it was easier when we had three.

Can't you do a wet room with a smaller shower area?

GreengrassofW · 20/12/2024 22:29

EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 21:31

There isn’t an option to make it ‘longer’ towards the loo. Or more than about six inches ‘wider’ towards the basin. But yes, you’re right, there is a bit more floor space to play with than the current quite high shower tray ‘capsule’.

Is your shower currently in a 'capsule'? I think that might be your issue - they do feel very claustrophobic.
Could make the shower tray same height as floor, so it feels more 'walk in'
and then use a glass door but for only half of it so it doesn't feel tight. Like this clever person has done in their beautiful en-suite, (not me). Very simple, doesn't use much space.

To remove the toilet from the en suite?
MoreHappy · 20/12/2024 22:19

Are all four bedrooms on the same level? If yes you would have one toilet for four bedrooms? (yes I know there is a toilet downstairs but not convenient during the night).

Crojo · 20/12/2024 22:14

We had a similar situation with our en suite, the room was spacious but the toilet was squashed in beside a tiny raised shower cubicle. We moved the toilet to a different position, would that be an option? It wasn't difficult to do plumbing wise.

soundsys · 20/12/2024 22:14

I would love this but looks like I'm in a minority!

ThisCosyAquaHiker · 20/12/2024 22:08

Have a toilet installed inside the shower - think of the time saving potential!

Eenameenadeeka · 20/12/2024 22:05

If you don't have plans to move in the near future I think you should do whatever you want, and have your home the way you like. I wouldn't want an ensuite without a toilet personally. We mostly use the main shower because it's bigger and easier to just clean one shower, I'd definitely prioritize the toilet personally.

Oldraver · 20/12/2024 22:00

A few years ago I rejected buying a house with master bedroom on the second floor with just a toilet and shower. Bath/shower we on the first floor

I now realise that having the toilet close by was a must, shower not as important

Maboscelar · 20/12/2024 21:58

I'm not an en suite fan so I would change it into a walk in wardrobe.
Just chucking a curveball in.

Pinkpurpletulips · 20/12/2024 21:55

I wouldn't buy a house with the set up you're proposing. And especially I wouldn't consider it if I'd practically have to demolish the whole en suite to reinstate it. When I had orthopedic surgery and couldn't really walk, I was so grateful to have an esuite with a loo a d a shower.

Whyherewego · 20/12/2024 21:53

I have an ensuite sans loo. it's fine and I appreciate the nicer shower as a result

Onlyvisiting · 20/12/2024 21:50

EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 18:40

That’s a very good shout. The nice new shower could then run along the left hand side of the room, the toilet stays where it is but a better one with basin on top. I like your thinking @Heronwatcher!

This sounds good to me.
I would not want a shower room without a toilet. And a toilet ensuit would be more important to me than my own shower.
You said you rarely use the shower, how often do you use the toilet? Try locking the door for a month and see how you feel not having it?

I'd also be very put off because I'd be pretty sure that people were weeing in the shower if there was no loo.....

GritGoes4th · 20/12/2024 21:47

Is the shower between the basin and loo the most efficient layout? We need a diagram so we can find shower space!

There are so many space-efficient loos and basins out there. It must be possible to fit in your lovely shower.

TammyJones · 20/12/2024 21:43

Weyohweyoh · 20/12/2024 18:31

I wouldn’t buy a house with a toiletless en suite. I have to get up to pee in the night far too often for that!

Me too.
I usually use the toilet before showering.
So yes would find it very odd.

EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 21:31

And I really shouid have included a diagram!

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EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 21:31

GreengrassofW · 20/12/2024 21:29

you can still have a spacious feeling shower, just open it out a bit, use a glass door/half door instead of a 'cubicle/capsule.' Don't get rid of the loo, it'll be weird.

There isn’t an option to make it ‘longer’ towards the loo. Or more than about six inches ‘wider’ towards the basin. But yes, you’re right, there is a bit more floor space to play with than the current quite high shower tray ‘capsule’.

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housethatbuiltme · 20/12/2024 21:31

I was looking at a house on rightmove with exactly that, a 'en suite' with just a shower and sink (theres plenty of room for a toilet but it doesn't have one). House is above my budget but not wildly I do like it, think I'll wait and see if it gets reduced.

Honestly my thoughts on the shower room en suite where... well we will rip that out and have either an office of dressing room.