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To remove the toilet from the en suite?

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EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 18:29

I’m interested in how people would react if buying a house with an en-suite shower room instead of a more traditional complete en-suite with shower, toilet and basin.

Current set up:
Four bedroom house.

Main family bathroom has toilet, basin, bath with shower over.

Master bedroom has en-suite with toilet, basin and small shower cubicle.

There is a downstairs loo off the hall.

What I want to do:
Remove toilet from the en-suite and replace the shower cubicle with a nice big walk- in shower (not a wet room, a bigger contained modern shower enclosure).

I know MN has Opinions on en-suites and hates the idea of ‘poo-ing off your bedroom’ - but my question is:

YABU - an en-suite should have a toilet

YANBU - a shower room off the master bedroom is much better

I’m a firm believer in having your house how you want it but am thinking of how buyers would react when I do come to sell.

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Porcuporpoise · 21/12/2024 12:25

MereDintofPandiculation · 21/12/2024 12:20

You don't have to be "very elderly or disabled" to have urinary problems.It's estimated that more than 50% of post-menopausal women have some degree of urinary incontinence.

The idea that it happens only to the very elderly is one reason women are hesitant to seek help.

Quite. And for bowel issues you can multiply the shame factor by about 100. Lots of people don't even seek help.

yomellamoHelly · 21/12/2024 12:25

Can you get a compact loo?

MereDintofPandiculation · 21/12/2024 12:24

Having our own ensuite wet room was a boon when both DSs were at home. No-one was going to use the downstairs toilet in the middle of the night, so we could go to the loo in the middle of the night without the possibility of running into sons or their girlfriends.

MereDintofPandiculation · 21/12/2024 12:20

LochKatrine · 21/12/2024 09:58

It's probably only a few more steps.
However.
If you're very elderly and/or have a disability, that's another matter. I was just going on the OP's situation.

You don't have to be "very elderly or disabled" to have urinary problems.It's estimated that more than 50% of post-menopausal women have some degree of urinary incontinence.

The idea that it happens only to the very elderly is one reason women are hesitant to seek help.

MereDintofPandiculation · 21/12/2024 12:16

Personally I really dislike wet rooms and the water going everywhere so you can't use your bathroom in just socks. Easily solved by having a half screen by the shower, that keeps 95% of it confined. The floor isn't of course completely flat, so water runs into the drainage hole, it doesn't run all over the floor.

BoyzIIMen · 21/12/2024 11:00

I detest en suites.

I don't want to be in bed whilst my partner uses the loo!

When he goes in there to get ready for work, the light going on and the noise of him getting ready wakes me up.

I'd much prefer a further bathroom off the hall, just next to our bedroom.

VickyEadieofThigh · 21/12/2024 10:28

Weyohweyoh · 20/12/2024 18:31

I wouldn’t buy a house with a toiletless en suite. I have to get up to pee in the night far too often for that!

Absolutely this. I'm far more happy to walk across the landing for a shower than I am to do that (sometimes) several times a night for a wee!

TonTonMacoute · 21/12/2024 10:27

Good grief! How much time do Mumsnetters spend on the toilet!

We have a downstairs loo and an upstairs bathroom with a loo in it. That's more than enough for our 4 bedroom house.

We have just had an an en-suite added to our spare room. We deliberately didn't put a loo in because we thought being woken up by your partner flushing the loo in the middle of the night was not great. The bathroom is right next door.

There is much more likely to be time pressure on people wanting showers than wanting the loo. For me a bigger, more usable shower would be worth losing the toilet for.

Browningstown · 21/12/2024 10:24

That loo basin combo is pure genius.
Definitely the way to go.

When we bought our house many years ago there was an extra large ensuite off a large room and we thought of removing it, but were advised not to and to just replace everything and leave the space as you never know.

It has been the handiest thing ever as it is a visitor suite that is so handy, it is now off a type of kids Den/hangout room and very handy when friends are over.

Family, kids friends staying etc., all have a space and our bedrooms remain private upstairs.

Extra loos never go to waste.

I think removing the loo from the ensuite would absolutely be a negative, the combo idea is the way to go IMO.

jeaux90 · 21/12/2024 10:14

It doesn't matter how you spin this OP I would not buy a house with an en-suite with no toilet.

Lots of us with properties/ development why don't you share the room plan instead for suggestions.

Feb135 · 21/12/2024 10:12

Personally I really dislike wet rooms and the water going everywhere so you can't use your bathroom in just socks.

I'd also lose the shower before my loo. If I'm going in the night, I want to stagger the shortest possible distance so I can get back to sleep quickly.

We have two kids and I love having a loo that my sons don't use. The sanctuary of that trumps the bigger shower for me.

Recycledblonde · 21/12/2024 10:06

We’ve just moved and rejected a house with an en-suite without a loo. We didn’t want the hassle and expense of having it redone to include a loo. The sellers weren’t open to offers. I notice it still hasn’t sold.

LochKatrine · 21/12/2024 09:58

MereDintofPandiculation · 21/12/2024 09:07

a) you have to put a dressing gown on b)if you have to get up in the night, it's possible your muscles aren't on top form at that time. Nearer is better.c) you can stagger to ensuite and back without waking your brain, and drop straight back to sleep.

It's probably only a few more steps.
However.
If you're very elderly and/or have a disability, that's another matter. I was just going on the OP's situation.

MereDintofPandiculation · 21/12/2024 09:07

LochKatrine · 21/12/2024 09:03

Go to the family bathroom.

a) you have to put a dressing gown on b)if you have to get up in the night, it's possible your muscles aren't on top form at that time. Nearer is better.c) you can stagger to ensuite and back without waking your brain, and drop straight back to sleep.

LochKatrine · 21/12/2024 09:04

You already have more than one toilet. People are acting as if you've no toilet at all, or have to go out into the back yard!
Remove it and put in your walk in shower.

MereDintofPandiculation · 21/12/2024 09:04

ThisCosyAquaHiker · 20/12/2024 22:08

Have a toilet installed inside the shower - think of the time saving potential!

Used to stay in a flat in Greece that was more or less that. Whole room the size of a toilet. You had to remember to put the toilet roll outside if you wanted a shower.

LochKatrine · 21/12/2024 09:03

Weyohweyoh · 20/12/2024 18:31

I wouldn’t buy a house with a toiletless en suite. I have to get up to pee in the night far too often for that!

Go to the family bathroom.

MereDintofPandiculation · 21/12/2024 09:02

GreengrassofW · 20/12/2024 22:57

Yes you don't need as much space as you might imagine, let's see a diagram OP!

I'm sure you can have all 3 things and feel very spacious !

Checked last night - ours is 4ft wide not 5ft.

MereDintofPandiculation · 21/12/2024 09:02

Dogsintheyard · 20/12/2024 22:53

Please don’t put a wet room on an upper floor….

Done properly, there should be no problem. The only floods I've known have been from bathrooms/shower rooms that weren't wet rooms.

NotThatWitty · 21/12/2024 07:38

We actually saw a house like this, an ensuite with just a shower and basin and no toilet, just before we bought our current house. We didn't put an offer in. My reasoning was that I shower/bath once a day, but I use the toilet a lot more, and therefore the toilet was a bigger priority for me than the shower. DH and I discussed it after we viewed it, and considered how much it would be to put a toilet in (as if we chose that house that would have been an extra cost for us to consider), but just decided against it.

As PPs have mentioned, you live there and so it needs to work for you. If you decide to sell in the future, it just needs to be priced right, and someone will buy it. You just need to be aware that people will likely consider the cost of changing the ensuite back to a more traditional set-up when they make offers.

EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 21/12/2024 07:09

Maboscelar · 20/12/2024 21:58

I'm not an en suite fan so I would change it into a walk in wardrobe.
Just chucking a curveball in.

All bedrooms have one or two built in wardrobes so I wouldn’t favour losing a toilet for a dressing room. And it would then be a four bed house with only one bathroom which I can see from this thread wouldn’t be desirable.

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HoppingPavlova · 21/12/2024 07:06

Nope. I need to go several times a night and have done for decades (thanks kids!), and I rely on a toilet in the ensuite close by so it would be a dealbreaker for me.

EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 21/12/2024 07:03

GreengrassofW · 20/12/2024 22:29

Is your shower currently in a 'capsule'? I think that might be your issue - they do feel very claustrophobic.
Could make the shower tray same height as floor, so it feels more 'walk in'
and then use a glass door but for only half of it so it doesn't feel tight. Like this clever person has done in their beautiful en-suite, (not me). Very simple, doesn't use much space.

Edited

That style of walk-in shower is what I’m wanting, @GreengrassofW 😍

It’s a square room. In the bottom right corner is the door.
Top right is the toilet. Window along the right hand wall.
Bottom left area is basin.
Radiator along bottom wall (would change to a towel rail).
Pokey shower cubicle in top left corner currently. Next to the toilet.

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EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 21/12/2024 06:57

Dogsintheyard · 20/12/2024 22:53

Please don’t put a wet room on an upper floor….

Agreed, it wouldn’t be a wet room.

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EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 21/12/2024 06:56

MoreHappy · 20/12/2024 22:19

Are all four bedrooms on the same level? If yes you would have one toilet for four bedrooms? (yes I know there is a toilet downstairs but not convenient during the night).

Correct @MoreHappy the bedrooms are all on the same level. Two on each side of the main bathroom, essentially.

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