To remove the toilet from the en suite?

NPET · 24/12/2024 18:39

Tessiebear2023 · 24/12/2024 13:36

That's true if you've got a house-full, but if not one toilet upstairs and one down is plenty.

I used to manage with only one upstairs and 4 of us in the house, but it was nice moving to a larger house with 3 loos once the kids got older. Dp and I can easily manage to go through the night without using our en suite at all, it wouldn't be the nighttime wees that were an issue, it's the teenagers taking ages in the showers that are the problem!

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Well I'm 20, and my experience of toilets is having ONE at home (which my bro tried to dominate until my sis & I got our way) and one between four of us at college. Yes, there is another one almost next door, but it's still not enough. A girl needs one to herself!

Tessiebear2023 · 24/12/2024 13:36

NPET · 22/12/2024 16:38

Afaic, the more toilets the better. Everywhere!

That's true if you've got a house-full, but if not one toilet upstairs and one down is plenty.

I used to manage with only one upstairs and 4 of us in the house, but it was nice moving to a larger house with 3 loos once the kids got older. Dp and I can easily manage to go through the night without using our en suite at all, it wouldn't be the nighttime wees that were an issue, it's the teenagers taking ages in the showers that are the problem!

NPET · 22/12/2024 16:38

Afaic, the more toilets the better. Everywhere!

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EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 22/12/2024 13:39

TonTonMacoute · 22/12/2024 12:10

Which loo are you going to use during the day? Are you going to go all the way upstairs to use the one in the ensuite, or the downstairs one?

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For a wee, downstairs, like I do now. If I’m going upstairs, it doesn’t matter which room I walk to.

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TonTonMacoute · 22/12/2024 12:29

EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 21/12/2024 17:49

Never use the shower as it’s pokey and not joyful. Bath every day. Hair wash using main bathroom shower.

Teeth clean in main bathroom.

Use en suite once when I get up and sometimes once in the night. Only me uses it, DH walks out to main bathroom if he needs it in the night.

Yes I do my face and skincare in the en-suite.

ALL I WANT IS MY LOVELY SHOWER 🤣🤣

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Do you really need a huge walk in shower OP? We have just put in a 900x900 quadrant shower enclosure, with a powerful electric shower and it is perfectly if enough to be comfortable to use and move around in.

TonTonMacoute · 22/12/2024 12:10

Sandwichgen · 21/12/2024 17:40

What do you do most?

You shower once a day, maybe twice?

As opposed to :

clean your teeth twice a day at least.

put make-up on once, maybe twice if goi g out in the evening

take it off

do serums, acids, creams, moisturisers - twice

brush hair in front of mirror - lots

use the loo - lots and lots

so my conclusion is that a good loo, a large counter with a sink in it , a lighted mirror cabinet over it and lots of drawers underneath would be a set-up you’d use a good deal more in a day than a shower enclosure

Which loo are you going to use during the day? Are you going to go all the way upstairs to use the one in the ensuite, or the downstairs one?

ridl14 · 22/12/2024 10:55

EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 18:39

One family bathroom with shower over bath

One (new) shower room

Two toilets (one upstairs and one downstairs)

Currently three toilets including the one in the en-suite.

It’s the loss of the toilet that causes the negative for you?

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Not the PP but definitely - we viewed a house with similar specs and the lack of toilet in the en suite (big room, shower only) was one of the reasons we didn't go for it. Too much work - we definitely wanted an en suite with toilet and shower which is what we have now!

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EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 22/12/2024 09:19

@Tessiebear2023 I’m 53 so definitely no children in my future (or past, as it happens) but agree with you on the kegels 🤣🤣

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Tessiebear2023 · 21/12/2024 22:12

EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 18:29

I’m interested in how people would react if buying a house with an en-suite shower room instead of a more traditional complete en-suite with shower, toilet and basin.

Current set up:
Four bedroom house.

Main family bathroom has toilet, basin, bath with shower over.

Master bedroom has en-suite with toilet, basin and small shower cubicle.

There is a downstairs loo off the hall.

What I want to do:
Remove toilet from the en-suite and replace the shower cubicle with a nice big walk- in shower (not a wet room, a bigger contained modern shower enclosure).

I know MN has Opinions on en-suites and hates the idea of ‘poo-ing off your bedroom’ - but my question is:

YABU - an en-suite should have a toilet

YANBU - a shower room off the master bedroom is much better

I’m a firm believer in having your house how you want it but am thinking of how buyers would react when I do come to sell.

Do what you want (and keep up the kegels - seriously, they work). Unless you're planning to sell within 10 years, then keep the loo.

My only observation is people with 3 or more older children all clamouring for the loo in the morning, they would not go for it. If that's in your future, be prepared to change it back.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 21/12/2024 18:09

I would not buy with no loo in ensuite

Balloonhearts · 21/12/2024 18:05

MereDintofPandiculation · 21/12/2024 16:47

We have a cat that does that. Very neatly, straight down the drain hole, not a drop on the floor. Which is probably more than can be said for your boys

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Much more. They had the nerve to tell me that they couldn't help where it splattered. A week of mums boot camp for boys disabused them of that notion! 😂

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EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 21/12/2024 17:49

Sandwichgen · 21/12/2024 17:40

What do you do most?

You shower once a day, maybe twice?

As opposed to :

clean your teeth twice a day at least.

put make-up on once, maybe twice if goi g out in the evening

take it off

do serums, acids, creams, moisturisers - twice

brush hair in front of mirror - lots

use the loo - lots and lots

so my conclusion is that a good loo, a large counter with a sink in it , a lighted mirror cabinet over it and lots of drawers underneath would be a set-up you’d use a good deal more in a day than a shower enclosure

Never use the shower as it’s pokey and not joyful. Bath every day. Hair wash using main bathroom shower.

Teeth clean in main bathroom.

Use en suite once when I get up and sometimes once in the night. Only me uses it, DH walks out to main bathroom if he needs it in the night.

Yes I do my face and skincare in the en-suite.

ALL I WANT IS MY LOVELY SHOWER 🤣🤣

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Sandwichgen · 21/12/2024 17:41

So keep the loo and take out the tiny shower

Sandwichgen · 21/12/2024 17:40

What do you do most?

You shower once a day, maybe twice?

As opposed to :

clean your teeth twice a day at least.

put make-up on once, maybe twice if goi g out in the evening

take it off

do serums, acids, creams, moisturisers - twice

brush hair in front of mirror - lots

use the loo - lots and lots

so my conclusion is that a good loo, a large counter with a sink in it , a lighted mirror cabinet over it and lots of drawers underneath would be a set-up you’d use a good deal more in a day than a shower enclosure

Whoarethoseguys · 21/12/2024 17:31

I have never lived in a house with an ensuite bathroom it hasn't bothered me because the bathroom is very close to my bedroom.
But if I had an ensuite I would definitely want a toilet in it.

Diamond2793 · 21/12/2024 17:27

We have a 5 bed house our En suite doesn’t have a toilet it just has a shower and a sink it’s never been an issue for us we brought the house with it like this and when we did the en-suite up we attempted to add a toilet but it just didn’t work so we left it with just the shower and sink never bothers us the toilet is only across the hall its a few extra steps and one less toilet for me to clean I don’t see it as a problem

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EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 21/12/2024 17:25

SnowdaySewday · 21/12/2024 15:33

Could you make more space by flipping the door so it opens outwards? Or tiny rather than full-sized basin, like you’d find in a cloakroom toilet, or toilet with basin on the cistern and full-sized sink with mirror in the bedroom?

Yes, I think making the basin smaller might help.

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EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 21/12/2024 17:23

jeaux90 · 21/12/2024 10:14

It doesn't matter how you spin this OP I would not buy a house with an en-suite with no toilet.

Lots of us with properties/ development why don't you share the room plan instead for suggestions.

Because I think there’s really only two ways to do it:
remove toilet and have huge shower along the back wall
or
replace full size basin with smaller one and have the shower come out further ‘down’ the wall

It’s a smallish square room so not bursting with options…

My main query was whether removing the loo would put people off, which seems to be a resounding yes!

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eatreadsleeprepeat · 21/12/2024 17:00

I share your desire for a nice hotel style shower, your love of a bath to wallow in and your frustration at poky bathrooms in bigger (room number) houses.
We had the same issues and had first the bathroom then the en suite refitted by a local bathroom company with a designer I could work with. We couldn’t extend the rooms and had issues with silly bits of wall the builder had put in 37 years ago.
They took apart all the silly walls and reduced them to where it was essential, they worked out to the millimetre the largest fittings that would go in, they gave us the most minimal profile of shower frame available. We went from a corner quarter circle 90cm to a 80 x 120 rectangle and it is a massive change in feel. In both rooms we went for floating basin, not floating but swept back loo, tiled everything possible. It is doable, a good designer will look at with fresh eyes, and if you give free rein will come up with solutions. It will cost though. But worth spending what you can to get a comfortable home that gives you pleasure.

MereDintofPandiculation · 21/12/2024 16:47

Balloonhearts · 21/12/2024 16:05

It's the extra toilet that make an ensuite useful. And I guarantee you, having had to break two boys of the habit, if there is no toilet in there, they will piss in the shower.

We have a cat that does that. Very neatly, straight down the drain hole, not a drop on the floor. Which is probably more than can be said for your boys

Balloonhearts · 21/12/2024 16:05

It's the extra toilet that make an ensuite useful. And I guarantee you, having had to break two boys of the habit, if there is no toilet in there, they will piss in the shower.

Leavesandacorns · 21/12/2024 15:53

It would put me off, sorry. I wouldn't want the hassle of adding a toilet myself but it would annoy me too much not being able to have a wee before jumping in the shower.

Clarabell77 · 21/12/2024 15:52

ComtesseDeSpair · 20/12/2024 18:32

I hate en suites, but I think most people who like and want an en suite appreciate the convenience of not having to walk along the landing to the toilet, so an en suite without one would seem an oddity to them.

I think in the grander scheme of things, if your house is otherwise ticking all the boxes then it wouldn’t be a massive deal for many potential buyers, but there are always going to be those for whom it would be a dealbreaker.

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Why do you “hate” en suites?

Makingchocolatecake · 21/12/2024 15:50

This wouldn't put me off buying a house if there was plans/evidence that a toilet used to be there so I could put it back.

SnowdaySewday · 21/12/2024 15:33

Could you make more space by flipping the door so it opens outwards? Or tiny rather than full-sized basin, like you’d find in a cloakroom toilet, or toilet with basin on the cistern and full-sized sink with mirror in the bedroom?