Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To need some sort of domestic coach?

113 replies

Embarrassinglyuseless · 19/12/2024 22:40

I recognize this comes from a position of extreme privileged but I am drowning! I married a man who has become extraordinarily financially successful - I stay at home and look after our two children (no.3 on the way) - the deal being that I have a pretty unlimited budget, but I need to manage the house and I am TERRIBLE at it

I have a housekeeper who comes for 6 hours twice a week - she does and puts away all laundry, changes beds / sheets - and does all the usual cleaning

I have gardeners who come in weekly and do the yard work

my oldest is at school five days a week - youngest at nursery three mornings

I CANNOT get it together or stay on top of…

  • keeping the fridge clean and stocked
  • keeping things basically tidy
  • making sure the dog has everything he needs (annual check ups / insurance)
  • managing all the crap about the cars (mots, insurance etc)
  • keeping my car clean and tidy (it looks like I live in it full time. It’s embarrasing)
  • paying all the bills etc
  • making daily beds
  • feeding myself sensibly (the children always have nutritionally sound meals at appropriately scheduled times
  • Managing all the homework and reading
  • scheduling play dates
  • hosting dinner parties occasionally so people keep inviting us
  • scheduling travel and holidays
  • trying not to be a terrible friend
  • occasionally schedule a date or two
  • working on house Reno projects

basiclly I feel like life happens to me rather than me happening to my life. I feel like I’m constantly working to fight fires rather than working to a system - I know that I have more time than most people but I really really need help getting it together.

YANBU - take a domestic management course! Or find a coach (bonus points for pointing my useless ass somewhere)

YABU - no one can teach you this - you just have to do it.

OP posts:
LemonLimeFresca · 20/12/2024 12:13

Are you American?

WinterIsNearlyHere · 20/12/2024 11:56

I think you need to approach it like a job.
Set up a trello board or something like that and when kids are at school sit down and go through the tasks like you would if you were at work.

ilovesooty · 20/12/2024 11:48

Embarrassinglyuseless · 20/12/2024 09:37

I think this is it - Accountability is the key issue for me.

It is for me too. It's why I have a personal trainer and go to Aqua Aerobics class. I wouldn't keep exercising without accountability.
And when I had a downturn in my motivation and organisation due to personal circumstances I got a professional organiser in for a while to help me to de clutter a bit, explore storage solutions and develop some better habits. It got me back on track and I think it might help you.

Robotindisguise · 20/12/2024 11:14

I have worked in a school as senior admin, and have an AuDHD child. I will say that the hardest people to have a conversation with about ADHD are the teachers who themselves clearly have it but are undiagnosed. When you discuss symptoms they will tell you this is normal. By which they mean, that’s how things were for them too. It’s unlikely you knew the actual rate of medication for your class but if your school was good at SEN and your local state offering wasn’t, it’s very possible you had more neurodivergent kids than the average.

ADHD people thrive in pressured, structured environments - it brings about their hyperfocus. ADHD isn’t about not being able to concentrate, it’s about not being able to force concentration on things you don’t really want to do - or don’t need to do right now.

You would really benefit from medication. Use solder of that cash to fast-track a diagnosis. Have a look at the amazing resource that is ADDitude. And consider online housework coaches like Flylady or The Organised Mum.

Finally - plan your day. I am a carer and also have a lot of house repairs on at the moment - I’m you but on a much more modest scale! I do the same things each day, for example check my emails for 30 minutes each day after the school run, and use that to compile a to-do list in a notebook bought for the purpose.

Onlycoffee · 20/12/2024 10:58

I honestly think if you have unlimited spending power then hire a PA for you and your DH.
Just because you're home and not working doesn't mean you are your DH's PA.

You're already looking after the children, that's your job.
Everything else is hard. You're lucky you can afford to throw money at it, so do that!

LauraMipsum · 20/12/2024 10:52

Overdiagnosed or not it sounds like you do struggle with executive function - so do I. Here's how I manage it

  • first day of the month I book supermarket deliveries to arrive at 10am Sunday every week. I put "book supermarket" in my diary on my phone so I don't forget to do it.
  • day before the shopping arrives the supermarket texts me to remind me that I only have 5 bananas in the basket! I have a giant notebook where I do a meal plan and shopping list. Online shopping is done the night before it's due.
  • When the shopping arrives, I am ruthless about chucking out old stuff in the fridge not just putting new stuff on top of it.
  • Treat other things like work. So timetable which days you tidy which rooms and time-limit it: 10am - 11am Monday tidy the living room, Tuesday the kitchen, Wednesday the bathroom, if your "meeting" finishes early then great. Timetable in admin times: dogmin is 1pm Tuesdays for example.
  • Have a checklist on the freezer or somewhere visible with "end of day tasks" on it - hang up any laundry, make sure surfaces in the kitchen are clear, wipe down table, any crockery in the dishwasher etc.
  • Children do homework and reading while you cook dinner.
  • Direct debits for absolutely any bill that you possibly can.
GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 20/12/2024 10:48

Make lists of what needs doing, and just get on and do it. One by one, and tick them off.

I’m offering this advice for free, but it’d usually cost you £250. 🙂

Mirabai · 20/12/2024 10:22

I don’t think this is an ADHD issue - I have diagnosed ADHD and I am incredibly organised - possibly as compensation.

If OP was deputy head at secondary she has concentration & organisation skills. Whatever subject she taught she would have broken down into chunks to teach. She just needs to apply those skills to the domestic sphere.

In this case it sounds like she has not got her head round the systems she needs to put in place for all this to go smoothly.

Filing cabinet with labelled files for each subject - dog, bills, cars etc.

She needs a master calendar either on the wall or digital with everyone’s movements including hers are mapped.

Food shop should be online with favourites or old orders saved to reorder from. Then top up in store.

Mozzarellaballs · 20/12/2024 10:17

I know it seems to be in fashion at the min but the lack of being able to do things could you have adhd?

Edited, sorry just read above that you do, I think that answers alot

Mirabai · 20/12/2024 10:13

You don’t have a housekeeper you have a cleaner.

Organisation is what you need.

NeedToChangeName · 20/12/2024 09:58

JJ456 · 19/12/2024 22:52

You know at first I was like what a joke this privileged lady needs to get it together. But do you know what? This just shows how impossible it is to run a house. Even with all that help. And most people (nearly everyone) don’t have that. So I kind of appreciate this post.

if you have an unlimited budget can’t you just send kids into childcare and get it done in a day though? Or pay a cleaner to come and do fridge etc

Edited

Running a house isn't "impossible". It really isn't. Some find it easier than others and cash isn't always the solution

OP my tips are -
(1) ruthless decluttering
(2) tidy little and often
(3) Google calendar for everything
(4) direct debits / standing orders for as much as possible

Cakemaker2222 · 20/12/2024 09:57

I would forget Reno projects unless absolutely necessary, in which case hire professionals to manage it all, but it will cause upheaval e.g. rooms that you can’t use for weeks

Embarrassinglyuseless · 20/12/2024 09:51

SeaToSki · 20/12/2024 09:40

OP. Have you considered trialling an ADHD medication? Most of them are very quick acting which means you can see if they would suit you and have a positive impact on you quite quickly. Given you have a diagnosis of ADHD, maybe a dual pronged approach of medication and behavioural coaching to build your self management strategies would be helpful

I do need to do this. I feel silly. In my former life I was a deputy head at a big private high school in the USA and it was SO over diagnosed in our students - parents constantly pressuring assessment and pushing meds on children - I would estimate 10-20% of the student body were medicated.

I was a bit scatty about paperwork but ultimately had a good professional reputation + did a good job - so it felt like a cop out - something I could manage by working harder…

I recognise from many of your kind responses that I probably need some more help here - and that managing ‘one’ job - even quite a hectic one - is different to trying to stay on top of the millions of moving parts of managing a busy house with a very busy husband.

In response to earlier questions about DH - he does what he can - I would prefer that he spent his free time/ down time with our children (which he does - and he’ll drop everything immediately if there’s a problem with me or the children - he’s never missed a nativity or a parents evening - always makes space to have breakfast with us and read a bed time story if he’s working from home). He works crazy hard for us to have a nice life - it’s pressure that I put on myself to stay on top of everything - I feel like I’m not pulling my weight.

OP posts:
bowlingalleyblues · 20/12/2024 09:50

You could look at medication for ADHD or working with an ADHD coach on strategies and systems that will help you manage your responsibilities with support.

CrotchetyQuaver · 20/12/2024 09:45

I (on and off because I'm a bit shit) follow the Flylady. I'm not saying it's the best out there but she incorporates stuff like clean out your car, menu planning, admin into her suggested daily routines, parts of which are pretty much the same every week Might be worth a try?

SeaToSki · 20/12/2024 09:40

OP. Have you considered trialling an ADHD medication? Most of them are very quick acting which means you can see if they would suit you and have a positive impact on you quite quickly. Given you have a diagnosis of ADHD, maybe a dual pronged approach of medication and behavioural coaching to build your self management strategies would be helpful

Tubetrain · 20/12/2024 09:38

Embarrassinglyuseless · 19/12/2024 23:39

when I lived in the USA I was diagnosed with ADHD - I just dismissed it if I’m honest because I seemed to manage better than most people pre children (held down a job + a relationship etc) - but maybe I need to use some of the tools available to people who have it…

"I have a medical condition which is causing me huge problems but I'm not going to get it treated"

Can you see how ridiculous that sounds? Get yourself onto ADHD meds, you can afford to do it privately. Will make a huge difference.

Embarrassinglyuseless · 20/12/2024 09:37

ilovesooty · 20/12/2024 01:25

And some people just don't find it that easy. If she could "just do" she wouldn't be posting here.

OP, I'd consider hiring a professional organiser for a bit to look at how things might be done in a more structured way and work with you on some systems. It's hard if it's not something you're instinctively good at and if you get stuck in guilt the harder it feels. With someone working with you you'll feel more motivated and accountable.

I think this is it - Accountability is the key issue for me.

OP posts:
Embarrassinglyuseless · 20/12/2024 09:36

SpiritOfEcstasy · 20/12/2024 01:38

I was in this position when my DDs were young … and I totally relate. I had lots of help - paid help, no local family but I struggled to keep on top of it all. Even with help it’s a lot. And yes you’re in a privileged position but there’s only so much you can outsource. Managing a home and raising a family IS a full time job.

I can’t quite believe how kind most of you have been! I feel encouraged + supported + galvanised to implement more structure - I need some organisational help rather than paying for more cleaning / tidying hours

OP posts:
Embarrassinglyuseless · 20/12/2024 09:34

Applepoop · 20/12/2024 01:41

It doesn’t sound like a stealth boast. It sounds like the fact that she has help makes her feel even worse about not being able to organise the things she lists.

plus this is anonymous online. I could say I’m a billionaire with 6 cars and a yacht and an island. Who’s gonna know whether it’s true or not. I’m not sure it’s boasting if it’s to random strangers online. I think the OP genuinely wants help.

Thanks for your understanding - this is it - I feel like a dick becuase I DO have so much available to me and I still can’t make it work.

I’m grateful for so many really practical / compassionate responses.

OP posts:
Embarrassinglyuseless · 20/12/2024 09:32

mathanxiety · 20/12/2024 00:09

Have you ever been assessed for ADHD?

I know this suggestion is so typical for MN but the paralysis and the lists are a red flag.

If you're looking for motivation and some kind of road map, FlyLady (online) might help.

How is your sleep?
How long has it been since your younger child started sleeping through the night?
Any sleep apnoea?
Do you get any regular exercise?

It's very easy to become engulfed in brain fog.

I did actually get diagnosed with ADHD when I was living in the states - I dismissed it a bit because it felt like a cop out - I managed my big job ok… maybe I need to consider that some ADHD coaching or similar might help!

OP posts:
Applepoop · 20/12/2024 01:41

tellmesomethingtrue · 20/12/2024 01:29

Why did I post? Because this sounds like a stealth boast of much 'help' they can afford.

It doesn’t sound like a stealth boast. It sounds like the fact that she has help makes her feel even worse about not being able to organise the things she lists.

plus this is anonymous online. I could say I’m a billionaire with 6 cars and a yacht and an island. Who’s gonna know whether it’s true or not. I’m not sure it’s boasting if it’s to random strangers online. I think the OP genuinely wants help.

smooththecat · 20/12/2024 01:40

Could be because it’s all boring stuff

ilovesooty · 20/12/2024 01:40

tellmesomethingtrue · 20/12/2024 01:29

Why did I post? Because this sounds like a stealth boast of much 'help' they can afford.

What you're posting isn't helpful to the OP is it? Perhaps there are times when your thoughts are best kept to yourself. It doesn't sound like a stealth boast to me. You can have money and still be struggling and need a helping hand. I think it takes a degree of courage to post this and open yourself up to unkindness and criticism.

SpiritOfEcstasy · 20/12/2024 01:38

I was in this position when my DDs were young … and I totally relate. I had lots of help - paid help, no local family but I struggled to keep on top of it all. Even with help it’s a lot. And yes you’re in a privileged position but there’s only so much you can outsource. Managing a home and raising a family IS a full time job.