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Dodgy dealings in the woods..

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LostPups · 19/12/2024 22:16

I walk my dogs though a wood every day. I've walked there for a couple of years, but the last few months it's been daily rather than sporadically as my previous walking area has closed to the public. The wood is quiet and because noone really goes there, I can let my dogs off lead to run and chase pheasant and squirrels etc... and they r safe and other dog walkers and dogs aren't disturbed by them. I enjoy the walk and so do the dogs.

But in the last couple of months I've noticed men hanging around at one particular spot which is accessed from a nearby pathway adjacent to a train track. They seem to arrive by bicycle and they r always in the same spot, usually sitting or standing behind a tree (which made me jump the first few times!)

The men I see are usually always alone. They look very out of place as they are generally young (18 to 35), wear puffer jackets, nike trainers and have their phones out. Looks out of place in a muddy wood! Occasionally there'll be a more vulnerable looking man instead of or a little after/before the more trendy looking men.

Anyway, the first few times meeting or seeing these random lone men, it didn't bother me. I:d say hi, they'd say hello back, and I'd carry on my way.

But recently I've been feeling quite unnerved and if I'm honest, a little scared.

I am almost 100% sure the men in the woods have something to do with drugs. I don't know what is happening, who is dealing what, the ins and outs of what they r up to, and nor do I care. But I am starting to get paranoid someone might be finding me annoying and might try to bump me off!! Please tell me this won't happen!?!!

I really don't want to stop walking the pups in this wood, but equally I don't want to spook or piss off a drug dealer!

So .. am I'm being crazy to feel scared and paranoid I might get hurt because I have inadvertently found myself stumbling into the middle of a large drug operation!

Do you think the dealers or whoever they are, actually care im there?

Should I stop walking in the woods? (this will.b hard as nowhere local to let dogs off lead except the woods, and one of my dogs needs to run far and fast)?

Is it a known thing that drug deals happen in woods? Or could something else be going on?

Not far from this field there are also a couple of spots where people seem to regularly have fires, and also an area where there's lots of litter (cans, crisps packets etc..) and evidence of further dodgy stuff - clothes with shop tags still on sprawled.on the ground - stolen goods?

I'm so sad my country walk now feels like I'm intruding into the criminal world and that I shouldn't be on their turf :(

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MyKidsAreTooNoisy · 19/12/2024 23:14

On the balance of probabilities, I’d say they are closeted gay, drug-dealing, fungophile, bicycle enthusiasts. Best stay well clear just in case it’s catching.

Mirabai · 19/12/2024 23:12

I agree it’s cottaging. If it was dealing you’d see the same guys there regularly. Also dealings really changed now you can order online, I can’t see people being arsed to go the woods for drugs.

Thingymajigii · 19/12/2024 23:09

What type of dogs do you own? Would they protect you if you were attacked?

Newdaynewstarts · 19/12/2024 23:09

“”because noone really goes there, I can let my dogs off lead to run and chase pheasant and squirrels etc...””
why do you think it’s your right to let your dog do that.

LostPups · 19/12/2024 23:08

MyrtleStrumpet · 19/12/2024 22:50

I think it's very likely to be cottaging. No drugs, just men having sex with men. You won't have seen much because they are cautious about being seen. The pattern of one person hanging around for ages and then the other party rushing off is typical.

They won't do anything in front of you and are probably more wary of you reporting them.

They will be harmless. Ignore them.

I am 99% sure it's not a sex related thing. It just really doesn't have that vibe. I know.I.might be wrong, but it just feels like it's not that!

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Doggymummar · 19/12/2024 23:07

I think you must live by me. I spoke to them the other day and said " your not doing much to alleviate the stereotype" and they say hello every time now.

ShortyShorts · 19/12/2024 23:07

Post in your local Facebook group.

Guarantee you'll find out within minutes, or at least read other local's theories.

Feelingstrange2 · 19/12/2024 23:07

Is it always someone different? You never see the same guy twice?

LostPups · 19/12/2024 23:06

Buttercup198 · 19/12/2024 23:05

How do you know they wouldn't murder op ?? No one knows their even drug dealers they could be anyone even if they was drug dealers and op sees something they could be at risk

Better to avoid going their all together maybe

Yeah, I think I will sadly.

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LostPups · 19/12/2024 23:05

ExtraOnions · 19/12/2024 22:58

They will be (magic) mushroom picking … we get quite a few in the countryside round here.

That would be interesting but it tends to be one man standing in same spot! No mushrooms.around. Whichever man happens to be there, they normally stand behind a tree with their bike visible but he is not visible until you walk past and see him behind the tree.

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Buttercup198 · 19/12/2024 23:05

Wonderi · 19/12/2024 22:59

They definitely won’t kill you!!

Drug dealers don’t make a habit of murdering random dog walkers, it’s not good for business :)

I would always be a bit weary of men in the woods but it wouldn’t worry me any more if they happen to be drug dealers (in fact it would worry me less because they’re there for a reason).

Maybe try going at a different time if it’s making you feel uncomfortable.

How do you know they wouldn't murder op ?? No one knows their even drug dealers they could be anyone even if they was drug dealers and op sees something they could be at risk

Better to avoid going their all together maybe

EasterRose24 · 19/12/2024 23:03

I live near woods in a very rural area, we definitely get drug dealers there, and other suspicious stuff.
i have dogs but I would not walk ok them if the dealers were there.
I’ve reported it constantly to the police, they need to know and if they can they will do something. We did get some local officers come out.

You really should report it.

Buttercup198 · 19/12/2024 23:03

Well I wouldn't be going their alone again that's for sure

BeensOnToost · 19/12/2024 23:03

Might be into badger baiting (obviously not while you're there but scouting for setts).

I'd def report because if there is something going on its better to disturb it now before it becomes established in your area and attracts more and worse crime.

LostPups · 19/12/2024 23:02

Wonderi · 19/12/2024 22:59

They definitely won’t kill you!!

Drug dealers don’t make a habit of murdering random dog walkers, it’s not good for business :)

I would always be a bit weary of men in the woods but it wouldn’t worry me any more if they happen to be drug dealers (in fact it would worry me less because they’re there for a reason).

Maybe try going at a different time if it’s making you feel uncomfortable.

🤣thanks! I know I'm paranoid! But I keep imagining worst case scenario as I'm walking along on my own!

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Wonderi · 19/12/2024 22:59

They definitely won’t kill you!!

Drug dealers don’t make a habit of murdering random dog walkers, it’s not good for business :)

I would always be a bit weary of men in the woods but it wouldn’t worry me any more if they happen to be drug dealers (in fact it would worry me less because they’re there for a reason).

Maybe try going at a different time if it’s making you feel uncomfortable.

ExtraOnions · 19/12/2024 22:58

They will be (magic) mushroom picking … we get quite a few in the countryside round here.

ARealitycheck · 19/12/2024 22:54

MyrtleStrumpet · 19/12/2024 22:50

I think it's very likely to be cottaging. No drugs, just men having sex with men. You won't have seen much because they are cautious about being seen. The pattern of one person hanging around for ages and then the other party rushing off is typical.

They won't do anything in front of you and are probably more wary of you reporting them.

They will be harmless. Ignore them.

I'd have agreed until I read the bike part. Certainly a word with local police to increase patrols would do no harm.

As you say the gay men providing they are discreet aren't really an issue. In fact I know of one truck driver I spoke to who said he liked parking up overnight in the places the gays met up. With people in and out nobody tried to steal his diesel or load.

mollyfolk · 19/12/2024 22:53

I'd feel less worried if it was some kind of sex thing. But if it's drugs or anything else I'd be wary. It's not like they'll be out to get you but there could be trouble one day - you might see something and end up getting involved.

Definitely report it. Nobody is going to know it's you. And walk your dog somewhere else - even though it's very unfair on you!

healthybychristmas · 19/12/2024 22:53

It sounds much more likely that they are meeting for sex rather than for drugs. Nobody would need to go into the woods to get drugs and a drug dealer is too busy to be hanging around waiting for people to turn up like that! I'm concerned at the vulnerability of some of these men. How far is this from your house? To be honest I think you're absolute bonkers going there. I wouldn't go there for anything after the first time. I think maybe having dogs with you is giving you a false sense of security.

MyrtleStrumpet · 19/12/2024 22:50

LostPups · 19/12/2024 22:46

Yeah this is the thing. I'm surprised they would be dealing here. We r a quiet village. Does seem strange, but they come largely on bikes and access the wood via a path off from the pathway (the pathway leads right to near-by city centre - although it's a good couple miles to city centre).

I'm pretty sure this is not a sexual thing or a meet up type thing. Definitely doesn't have that flavour. And it's normally one person I see hanging around for ages, rather than couples or two people emerging looking sheepish! The trees are a bit sparse this time of year so would be hard for me not to have seen two people 'together'.

I think it's very likely to be cottaging. No drugs, just men having sex with men. You won't have seen much because they are cautious about being seen. The pattern of one person hanging around for ages and then the other party rushing off is typical.

They won't do anything in front of you and are probably more wary of you reporting them.

They will be harmless. Ignore them.

LostPups · 19/12/2024 22:46

ARealitycheck · 19/12/2024 22:36

Google the name of the woods along with the word gay. It may have found it's way on to a site for gay anon hookups.

If I was dealing in something illegal, not sure I'd pick a woods to hang around looking dodgy in. Could draw into any number of layby's to do a deal and not look out of place.

Yeah this is the thing. I'm surprised they would be dealing here. We r a quiet village. Does seem strange, but they come largely on bikes and access the wood via a path off from the pathway (the pathway leads right to near-by city centre - although it's a good couple miles to city centre).

I'm pretty sure this is not a sexual thing or a meet up type thing. Definitely doesn't have that flavour. And it's normally one person I see hanging around for ages, rather than couples or two people emerging looking sheepish! The trees are a bit sparse this time of year so would be hard for me not to have seen two people 'together'.

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LostPups · 19/12/2024 22:39

Grabyourpassportandmyhand · 19/12/2024 22:36

Mostly this but....I'd be wary of them. If they are high or whatever, who knows what they could do. I'd worry they'd identify me as the culprit for the police checking the area out too.

Personally I'd avoid the woods.

Can you drive anywhere to walk the dogs instead?

Thanks. Yeah I'm not planning to report because it would likely be v obvious it's me and it wouldn't be hard to find where I live or who I am.

I will have to find somewhere to drive to with the pups. Such a pain!

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ARealitycheck · 19/12/2024 22:36

Google the name of the woods along with the word gay. It may have found it's way on to a site for gay anon hookups.

If I was dealing in something illegal, not sure I'd pick a woods to hang around looking dodgy in. Could draw into any number of layby's to do a deal and not look out of place.

Grabyourpassportandmyhand · 19/12/2024 22:36

Radishknot · 19/12/2024 22:33

Defo sounds like drugs. I don’t think you’re in danger per se but I guess if they keep seeing you then it might spook them. If you report to police I wouldn’t walk that way in case they twig it was you.

Mostly this but....I'd be wary of them. If they are high or whatever, who knows what they could do. I'd worry they'd identify me as the culprit for the police checking the area out too.

Personally I'd avoid the woods.

Can you drive anywhere to walk the dogs instead?