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Dodgy dealings in the woods..

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LostPups · 19/12/2024 22:16

I walk my dogs though a wood every day. I've walked there for a couple of years, but the last few months it's been daily rather than sporadically as my previous walking area has closed to the public. The wood is quiet and because noone really goes there, I can let my dogs off lead to run and chase pheasant and squirrels etc... and they r safe and other dog walkers and dogs aren't disturbed by them. I enjoy the walk and so do the dogs.

But in the last couple of months I've noticed men hanging around at one particular spot which is accessed from a nearby pathway adjacent to a train track. They seem to arrive by bicycle and they r always in the same spot, usually sitting or standing behind a tree (which made me jump the first few times!)

The men I see are usually always alone. They look very out of place as they are generally young (18 to 35), wear puffer jackets, nike trainers and have their phones out. Looks out of place in a muddy wood! Occasionally there'll be a more vulnerable looking man instead of or a little after/before the more trendy looking men.

Anyway, the first few times meeting or seeing these random lone men, it didn't bother me. I:d say hi, they'd say hello back, and I'd carry on my way.

But recently I've been feeling quite unnerved and if I'm honest, a little scared.

I am almost 100% sure the men in the woods have something to do with drugs. I don't know what is happening, who is dealing what, the ins and outs of what they r up to, and nor do I care. But I am starting to get paranoid someone might be finding me annoying and might try to bump me off!! Please tell me this won't happen!?!!

I really don't want to stop walking the pups in this wood, but equally I don't want to spook or piss off a drug dealer!

So .. am I'm being crazy to feel scared and paranoid I might get hurt because I have inadvertently found myself stumbling into the middle of a large drug operation!

Do you think the dealers or whoever they are, actually care im there?

Should I stop walking in the woods? (this will.b hard as nowhere local to let dogs off lead except the woods, and one of my dogs needs to run far and fast)?

Is it a known thing that drug deals happen in woods? Or could something else be going on?

Not far from this field there are also a couple of spots where people seem to regularly have fires, and also an area where there's lots of litter (cans, crisps packets etc..) and evidence of further dodgy stuff - clothes with shop tags still on sprawled.on the ground - stolen goods?

I'm so sad my country walk now feels like I'm intruding into the criminal world and that I shouldn't be on their turf :(

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LostPups · 19/12/2024 23:34

Stillhere2024 · 19/12/2024 23:30

Hi OP I'm someone who also gets paranoid sometimes about this sort of thing. I'm amazed anyone can walk through woods on their own tbh! But I've seen a lot of crime documentaries. Yes there is definitely something odd going down in those woods and very sadly that would put me off going there, I would probably stop going and try and find some other routes xx

Thanks. Yeah, i.will find somewhere else I think. Sad because i love it, it's near my house and my dogs love the trails etc....and.chance to be off lead.
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Notthisagainyouidiot · 19/12/2024 23:34

How near are the woods to a town by bike? It sounds a bit county lines to me.
It's not the best idea as a dealer to have a large quantity of drugs on you. What a lot do is hide a stash and keep going back and forward to it. That way if you're caught it's an amount that could be classed as personal use rather than selling.
I'd ask (anonymously) on my local FB as well. Soneone always seems to know.

notjaneausten · 19/12/2024 23:33

Isn't it disgusting that females feel threatened now by being in a secluded area with men or a man. Why should we feel like this?

LostPups · 19/12/2024 23:32

Mirabai · 19/12/2024 23:24

I don’t know why you think it’s not cottaging, it goes on on the common near me in London and this is pretty much what it looks like.

It's hard to.explain, it just doesn't have the vibe. Also I think if you'd been romping in a muddy wood you wouldn't leave it looking immaculate in your clean Nike shoes and spotless puffer jacket. I also saw a few times a young guy with a young women..It was like he was teaching her something to do with the phone. I've only seen this one female. All the other people have been male. But I got the impression she was the girlfriend of the man she was with. They.looked young and trendy. She didn't look vulnerable.

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Flossflower · 19/12/2024 23:31

You shouldn’t let your dogs hassle the wildlife.

Stillhere2024 · 19/12/2024 23:30

Hi OP I'm someone who also gets paranoid sometimes about this sort of thing. I'm amazed anyone can walk through woods on their own tbh! But I've seen a lot of crime documentaries. Yes there is definitely something odd going down in those woods and very sadly that would put me off going there, I would probably stop going and try and find some other routes xx

Flossflower · 19/12/2024 23:29

This happened exactly like this years ago opposite from where I used to live. The odd men I saw just looked sinister. Many years later, I found out on Crimewatch, that this was a well known cottaging place.

technosausage · 19/12/2024 23:27

Forma druggie here...
They don't want your attention as much as you do, leave them be and they'll leave you alone.

IOYOYO · 19/12/2024 23:25

It sounds to me like mid level dealers passing drugs to people who’d sell at street level. I’d give it a wide berth if you feel unsafe.

DreamTheMoors · 19/12/2024 23:25

They aren’t gonna murder you.

If they are dealing drugs, they know the legal consequences for that.
They certainly aren’t going to add a murder charge to the already severe drug charges.
As far as the gay stuff, I don’t know nothin’ about that, Miss Daisy.
Drugs are much more likely.
They’re drug dealers — not murderers. Well, they just sell the stuff that kills people.

I’m sorry that your dog-walking route has become compromised. That’s a doggone, lowdown, dirty shame.

Thingymajigii · 19/12/2024 23:25

If you're walking two XL bully's I would just carry on regardless as they will not mess with you. If it's two yorkies, I might try an find an alternative walk.

Mirabai · 19/12/2024 23:24

LostPups · 19/12/2024 23:17

If it's not drugs, and I really dont think it's cottaging or sex related, is there somerhing else it could be?

I don’t know why you think it’s not cottaging, it goes on on the common near me in London and this is pretty much what it looks like.

EmeraldRoulette · 19/12/2024 23:23

Whatever it is, it's going to be dodgy. I wouldn't walk there. Is there nowhere else in the woods you can go? like a section that's popular with dog walkers?

We have woods where I live now. I was so pleased to leave London and to be nearer to nature, but I had to do some investigating to make sure where I was going was okay. Sadly, I have not really been able to explore as much as I'd like. Interestingly, the locals have all said the same there's definitely spots where you ought not to go.

If it's dealing, I agree that people do it very openly now. But there's all kinds of reasons why they might not want to - and why their customers might not want to.

I used to walk past the local dealers in my London park, but it was full of every day people so it didn't worry me. This seems a bit different.

LostPups · 19/12/2024 23:23

ARealitycheck · 19/12/2024 23:21

Imagine your dog bringing you a hand instead of a dead pheasant. 😂

Hope not! Especially hope its not my hand!!

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ARealitycheck · 19/12/2024 23:21

LostPups · 19/12/2024 23:19

True!

Imagine your dog bringing you a hand instead of a dead pheasant. 😂

BibbityBobbityToo · 19/12/2024 23:20

I would suspect it's married men meeting up for sex.

LostPups · 19/12/2024 23:19

ARealitycheck · 19/12/2024 23:17

No but it's always the dog walkers that find the bodies. 😂

True!

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LostPups · 19/12/2024 23:18

MyKidsAreTooNoisy · 19/12/2024 23:14

On the balance of probabilities, I’d say they are closeted gay, drug-dealing, fungophile, bicycle enthusiasts. Best stay well clear just in case it’s catching.

🤣🤣🤣

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healthybychristmas · 19/12/2024 23:18

Have you googled the place? I'd be very surprised if it didn't show up as something online.

LostPups · 19/12/2024 23:18

5128gap · 19/12/2024 23:15

Its a big leap up the crime ladder from dealing in the woods to bumping off a member of the public. Most dealers would not risk a murder charge to avoid the off chance a woman may have witnessed...what? Them talking on their phones in the woods?

🤣🤣good!.thank you!!

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ARealitycheck · 19/12/2024 23:17

5128gap · 19/12/2024 23:15

Its a big leap up the crime ladder from dealing in the woods to bumping off a member of the public. Most dealers would not risk a murder charge to avoid the off chance a woman may have witnessed...what? Them talking on their phones in the woods?

No but it's always the dog walkers that find the bodies. 😂

LostPups · 19/12/2024 23:17

Mirabai · 19/12/2024 23:12

I agree it’s cottaging. If it was dealing you’d see the same guys there regularly. Also dealings really changed now you can order online, I can’t see people being arsed to go the woods for drugs.

If it's not drugs, and I really dont think it's cottaging or sex related, is there somerhing else it could be?

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5128gap · 19/12/2024 23:15

Its a big leap up the crime ladder from dealing in the woods to bumping off a member of the public. Most dealers would not risk a murder charge to avoid the off chance a woman may have witnessed...what? Them talking on their phones in the woods?

LostPups · 19/12/2024 23:15

Feelingstrange2 · 19/12/2024 23:07

Is it always someone different? You never see the same guy twice?

I have seen a few multiple times. I think my dog scared one off permanently! He was more nervous looking than the others had been, and he was one of the few I started to smile at and say hi to more regularly. Then one day my dog found a dead pheasant which STANK and he took it up to the man who basically was backimg away. I couldn't get the dog to drop the pheasant and the dog didn't seem to.want to leave the man either. It was really awkward then I didn't see him again!!

More recently it's been a younger man quite often, trendy.looking lad.

Mostly these men are Asian or white youngish men and they mostly all have a phone with them.and look 'trendy' (though some, like pheasant man, do look a bit more nervous and a bit vulnerable - maybe a guilty look type vibe...)

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SnoopysHoose · 19/12/2024 23:14

Is there no Run Free filled near you? secure fields you rent by the hour for your dogs.