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Dodgy dealings in the woods..

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LostPups · 19/12/2024 22:16

I walk my dogs though a wood every day. I've walked there for a couple of years, but the last few months it's been daily rather than sporadically as my previous walking area has closed to the public. The wood is quiet and because noone really goes there, I can let my dogs off lead to run and chase pheasant and squirrels etc... and they r safe and other dog walkers and dogs aren't disturbed by them. I enjoy the walk and so do the dogs.

But in the last couple of months I've noticed men hanging around at one particular spot which is accessed from a nearby pathway adjacent to a train track. They seem to arrive by bicycle and they r always in the same spot, usually sitting or standing behind a tree (which made me jump the first few times!)

The men I see are usually always alone. They look very out of place as they are generally young (18 to 35), wear puffer jackets, nike trainers and have their phones out. Looks out of place in a muddy wood! Occasionally there'll be a more vulnerable looking man instead of or a little after/before the more trendy looking men.

Anyway, the first few times meeting or seeing these random lone men, it didn't bother me. I:d say hi, they'd say hello back, and I'd carry on my way.

But recently I've been feeling quite unnerved and if I'm honest, a little scared.

I am almost 100% sure the men in the woods have something to do with drugs. I don't know what is happening, who is dealing what, the ins and outs of what they r up to, and nor do I care. But I am starting to get paranoid someone might be finding me annoying and might try to bump me off!! Please tell me this won't happen!?!!

I really don't want to stop walking the pups in this wood, but equally I don't want to spook or piss off a drug dealer!

So .. am I'm being crazy to feel scared and paranoid I might get hurt because I have inadvertently found myself stumbling into the middle of a large drug operation!

Do you think the dealers or whoever they are, actually care im there?

Should I stop walking in the woods? (this will.b hard as nowhere local to let dogs off lead except the woods, and one of my dogs needs to run far and fast)?

Is it a known thing that drug deals happen in woods? Or could something else be going on?

Not far from this field there are also a couple of spots where people seem to regularly have fires, and also an area where there's lots of litter (cans, crisps packets etc..) and evidence of further dodgy stuff - clothes with shop tags still on sprawled.on the ground - stolen goods?

I'm so sad my country walk now feels like I'm intruding into the criminal world and that I shouldn't be on their turf :(

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MyBirthdayMonth · 20/12/2024 00:52

LostPups · 19/12/2024 22:39

Thanks. Yeah I'm not planning to report because it would likely be v obvious it's me and it wouldn't be hard to find where I live or who I am.

I will have to find somewhere to drive to with the pups. Such a pain!

Why would it be obvious? It's unlikely that you are the only person who uses the woodland and sometimes encounters these dubious individuals. And please keep your dogs under control. The birds and squirrels deserve to live in peace. They are not a facility provided for the entertainment of your pets.

Copperoliverbear · 20/12/2024 00:27

Report to the local police station.

Opentooffers · 20/12/2024 00:24

It's probably drugs, the young lads in puffa jackets will be selling and the vulnerable looking ones will be buying - either to sell on, or for themselves. Surprised they bother going into the woods really, must be just a quiet patch they've decided on. It's more brazen where I live and done in the street. Very annoying to get held up by 2 roadmen straddling a side-street while they exchange packages through the window ( nice street, detached houses mostly). Happens everywhere these days.
This case is probably low level as they aren't even using cars. Just ignore it and carry on, seems good enough for the police to.

healthybychristmas · 20/12/2024 00:15

There is no way that drug dealers are going to go out to the middle of the woods somewhere! They don't even need to leave their own home half the time.

JellyBeanFactory · 20/12/2024 00:14

Geocaching?

Rockschooldropout · 20/12/2024 00:14

It could be anything , drugs, cottaging, most likely drugs but who knows ?
However personally unless you are walking two giant hungry wolves I’d probably avoid walking there again

Barleysugar86 · 20/12/2024 00:08

LostPups · 19/12/2024 22:27

🤣 definitely not dogging. It's only one man at a time, though pretty sure one goes in, waits ages, then another goes in and out quickly (probably to deal). Today a man saw me and he literally hid behind a tree! I could see him because he had a white stripe on his black hoody that was easy to spot!. I wanted to shout out 'dont hide on my account. I don't care what you r doing! Just don't kill me!' but instead I just walked really fast in the opposite direction calling my dogs over for protection (but instead they went to find him, tails wagging 😵‍💫)

Is there a train yard/ train parking anywhere near that spot? You may have found some graffiti artists sneaking onto the lines to paint the trains or paint the walls alongside the tracks. The clothes fit the demographic. They'd need rucksacks for the spray paint.

oakleaffy · 20/12/2024 00:04

Saz12 · 20/12/2024 00:00

So... you let your dogs chase wildlife /flush pheasants out... or possibly you haven't adequate control over your dogs whilst on someone else's land / in a public area. But you are worried about criminality in the woods? Ironic, no?

Gamekeeper wouldn't be too pleased about his/her pheasants being chased.
Re squirrels, it's actually illegal to allow dogs to ''hunt'' squirrels- the squirrels have to be shot, and then can be retrieved by a dog.

CameraCoffeeCrochet · 20/12/2024 00:03

Could they be trainspotters hanging around waiting for trains??

oakleaffy · 20/12/2024 00:02

Definitely sounds drug related. There was a group of young males loitering in woods a few miles away here- scooters and bikes, the woods adjacent to a large council estate.

Saz12 · 20/12/2024 00:00

So... you let your dogs chase wildlife /flush pheasants out... or possibly you haven't adequate control over your dogs whilst on someone else's land / in a public area. But you are worried about criminality in the woods? Ironic, no?

Bunny44 · 19/12/2024 23:52

It could be cruising? I know a lot about this as I had a bisexual ex who did it when he was younger. Also involves drugs a lot of the time so attracts dealers. Tends to be in built up areas though like Burgess Park and Clapham common in London in wooded areas. They hang around at dusk but things get going after dark.

Mrsbloggz · 19/12/2024 23:51

Drugs are largely delivered by royal mail these days, must be something else🤷🏻‍♀

TootToot2020 · 19/12/2024 23:49

Do you have a local Facebook community page or neighbourhood watch/chat group you could share this with?

Amanitacae · 19/12/2024 23:48

Magic mushroom season ends in early November and psilocybin mushrooms in the uk grow in dung fields (not in woods). You’d see them foraging if it was this, and finding the idea of foragers in while puffa jackets and nice trainers highly amusing.

Drug dealers usually either deliver, or have a safe dry place for buyers to come to, or go somewhere where there is a lot of footfall. They don’t bury valuable stashes in the woods like pirates then stand around the stash waiting for custom.

it’s obviously cottaging, or possible a single or few male prostitute(s) who are using the spot as a rendezvous point.

Notthisagainyouidiot · 19/12/2024 23:47

LostPups · 19/12/2024 23:40

It's a couple.miles.to.city centre, maybe 10mins bike ride

I definitely think drug pick up point then. Age, clothing and bikes make me think delivery boys. People aren't coming there to buy which is why you see one or two . They're fulfilling orders.

Tealpins · 19/12/2024 23:44

Nah. It's not drugs. Why the fuck would you deal in some random wood? It's cottaging. And of course they don't get covered in mud on their white puffer jackets...

LostPups · 19/12/2024 23:40

Notthisagainyouidiot · 19/12/2024 23:34

How near are the woods to a town by bike? It sounds a bit county lines to me.
It's not the best idea as a dealer to have a large quantity of drugs on you. What a lot do is hide a stash and keep going back and forward to it. That way if you're caught it's an amount that could be classed as personal use rather than selling.
I'd ask (anonymously) on my local FB as well. Soneone always seems to know.

It's a couple.miles.to.city centre, maybe 10mins bike ride

OP posts:
Godfreydahling · 19/12/2024 23:40

Can you go at a different time of day? Presumably they don't spend the whole day there?

healthybychristmas · 19/12/2024 23:40

notjaneausten · 19/12/2024 23:33

Isn't it disgusting that females feel threatened now by being in a secluded area with men or a man. Why should we feel like this?

Women have always been frightened of this. It's nothing new unfortunately.

Wonderi · 19/12/2024 23:39

Buttercup198 · 19/12/2024 23:05

How do you know they wouldn't murder op ?? No one knows their even drug dealers they could be anyone even if they was drug dealers and op sees something they could be at risk

Better to avoid going their all together maybe

Because most drug dealers aren’t murderers.
If they do murder someone, it’s usually another drug dealer.

It’s extremely rare to be murdered by someone you don’t know.

A lone man in the woods for no reason, is much more of a threat than a man dealing drugs or meeting up with someone for sex.

LostPups · 19/12/2024 23:38

notjaneausten · 19/12/2024 23:33

Isn't it disgusting that females feel threatened now by being in a secluded area with men or a man. Why should we feel like this?

I know. That's part of the reason I haven't stopped walking there yet I suppose. I guess I was feeling like it wasn't fair that I was going to have to stop my walks because men were making me feel uneasy :( However, men (and women) are capable of bad things so however unfair I may feel it is, I think I should be wise and avoid this.wood.:(

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ARealitycheck · 19/12/2024 23:37

notjaneausten · 19/12/2024 23:33

Isn't it disgusting that females feel threatened now by being in a secluded area with men or a man. Why should we feel like this?

I don't think this is really a feminist issue. I think a lot of guys would wary in the same situation. I'd say it does sound a bit county lines too. Unlikely the OP would come to any hurt, but far better not to be there in case of a possible police investigation and becoming a witness.

2025willbemytime · 19/12/2024 23:36

Tell the police. Don't go for a bit. See what happens.

ARealitycheck · 19/12/2024 23:35

Flossflower · 19/12/2024 23:29

This happened exactly like this years ago opposite from where I used to live. The odd men I saw just looked sinister. Many years later, I found out on Crimewatch, that this was a well known cottaging place.

I think it really depends on where you are and where you were brought up. I've spent most of my life rurally and walking through dark quiet places wouldn't worry me in the slightest. My dog when he was alive ran around woods, fields, down riversides and loved it.