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Dodgy dealings in the woods..

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LostPups · 19/12/2024 22:16

I walk my dogs though a wood every day. I've walked there for a couple of years, but the last few months it's been daily rather than sporadically as my previous walking area has closed to the public. The wood is quiet and because noone really goes there, I can let my dogs off lead to run and chase pheasant and squirrels etc... and they r safe and other dog walkers and dogs aren't disturbed by them. I enjoy the walk and so do the dogs.

But in the last couple of months I've noticed men hanging around at one particular spot which is accessed from a nearby pathway adjacent to a train track. They seem to arrive by bicycle and they r always in the same spot, usually sitting or standing behind a tree (which made me jump the first few times!)

The men I see are usually always alone. They look very out of place as they are generally young (18 to 35), wear puffer jackets, nike trainers and have their phones out. Looks out of place in a muddy wood! Occasionally there'll be a more vulnerable looking man instead of or a little after/before the more trendy looking men.

Anyway, the first few times meeting or seeing these random lone men, it didn't bother me. I:d say hi, they'd say hello back, and I'd carry on my way.

But recently I've been feeling quite unnerved and if I'm honest, a little scared.

I am almost 100% sure the men in the woods have something to do with drugs. I don't know what is happening, who is dealing what, the ins and outs of what they r up to, and nor do I care. But I am starting to get paranoid someone might be finding me annoying and might try to bump me off!! Please tell me this won't happen!?!!

I really don't want to stop walking the pups in this wood, but equally I don't want to spook or piss off a drug dealer!

So .. am I'm being crazy to feel scared and paranoid I might get hurt because I have inadvertently found myself stumbling into the middle of a large drug operation!

Do you think the dealers or whoever they are, actually care im there?

Should I stop walking in the woods? (this will.b hard as nowhere local to let dogs off lead except the woods, and one of my dogs needs to run far and fast)?

Is it a known thing that drug deals happen in woods? Or could something else be going on?

Not far from this field there are also a couple of spots where people seem to regularly have fires, and also an area where there's lots of litter (cans, crisps packets etc..) and evidence of further dodgy stuff - clothes with shop tags still on sprawled.on the ground - stolen goods?

I'm so sad my country walk now feels like I'm intruding into the criminal world and that I shouldn't be on their turf :(

OP posts:
LostPups · 20/12/2024 07:53

DreamTheMoors · 19/12/2024 23:25

They aren’t gonna murder you.

If they are dealing drugs, they know the legal consequences for that.
They certainly aren’t going to add a murder charge to the already severe drug charges.
As far as the gay stuff, I don’t know nothin’ about that, Miss Daisy.
Drugs are much more likely.
They’re drug dealers — not murderers. Well, they just sell the stuff that kills people.

I’m sorry that your dog-walking route has become compromised. That’s a doggone, lowdown, dirty shame.

🤣👍 thanks

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Inthebleakmidwinter1 · 20/12/2024 07:39

I would see if you recruit a few friends or how about a whole village sponsored walk. 😂. They feel safe because it’s a quiet place

NeedToChangeName · 20/12/2024 07:34

LostPups · 19/12/2024 23:02

🤣thanks! I know I'm paranoid! But I keep imagining worst case scenario as I'm walking along on my own!

I don't think it's paranoid. I don't think they would attack you just for walking past, but if a deal goes wrong and it all kicks off, then you could find yourself in the wrong place at the wrong time eg if you witnessed it

Damnloginpopup · 20/12/2024 07:32

Russians. Spies.

User346897543 · 20/12/2024 07:30

If they're on bikes it will be a drugs pick up

OneBadKitty · 20/12/2024 07:26

Puffer jackets and trendy clothes- sound like road men rather than gay men, so most likely dealers.

SpikyCoconut · 20/12/2024 07:01

Wonderi · 19/12/2024 22:59

They definitely won’t kill you!!

Drug dealers don’t make a habit of murdering random dog walkers, it’s not good for business :)

I would always be a bit weary of men in the woods but it wouldn’t worry me any more if they happen to be drug dealers (in fact it would worry me less because they’re there for a reason).

Maybe try going at a different time if it’s making you feel uncomfortable.

This (It's 'wary', 'weary' means 'tired').

Ignore them. Drug dealers hiding in woods are very unlikely to also be serial killers hanging about hoping a woman would suddenly appear. Let them go about their business. You'll be a lot more likely to become a target if you report them and they suspect it was you.

Theunamedcat · 20/12/2024 06:56

Near a trainline I would have said trainspotter tbh

Either way do you have any doggy friends you could organise a group with more people showing up they might move on

Tealpins · 20/12/2024 06:52

Craftymam · 20/12/2024 01:50

I’m going for drugs. The bar for searching people on foot or bike is actually incredibly high. You don’t need any reason for searching someone in a car really.

What!? Tell that to a black lad in London.

Honestly, all the people suggesting drugs- where do you live? People deal drugs from their flats. Yeah, sometimes in the street - but that's like selling newspapers used to be - you need to be near footfall.

Drug dealers are not standing around waiting for a single person. It's sex... Blimey.

OuterSpaceCadet · 20/12/2024 06:44

Apologies if already mentioned, but easy way to know if it's cottaging is there will be human shit around the place. Seriously. (I live near woods popular for this).

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 20/12/2024 06:39

They are possibly members of the Hunt Saboteurs Association concerned about pheasants and squirrels being chased wantonly, that or drug dealing.

User346897543 · 20/12/2024 06:39

It's drugs, I've seen similar myself

Namechangey23 · 20/12/2024 06:34

What's more important to you, your dogs being off lead in the specific wood, or you being alive to continue being their owner?

I can't believe you've carried ongoing there to be honest, seeing this once would have been enough for me. The fact you've seen people trying to hide from you tells you all you need to know! They don't want to be seen by you. Take the hint. And report the dates and times so the police can do a patrol! Then find a new spot/walk your dogs on a lead like most others.

ThisCosyPoster · 20/12/2024 06:10

Defo drugs. Drug dealers are dangerous and usually carry knives. Report and walk somewhere else.

HelpMeGetThrough · 20/12/2024 06:02

I don’t know why you think it’s not cottaging, it goes on on the common near me in London and this is pretty much what it looks like.

Probably gets quite busy when The House of Commons has finished sitting.

Lurkingandlearning · 20/12/2024 04:08

It must be a very narrow wood if you are passing them close enough to say hello. Is there really no option of you staying far enough away from them to go unnoticed?

Buttercup198 · 20/12/2024 03:07

Wonderi · 19/12/2024 23:39

Because most drug dealers aren’t murderers.
If they do murder someone, it’s usually another drug dealer.

It’s extremely rare to be murdered by someone you don’t know.

A lone man in the woods for no reason, is much more of a threat than a man dealing drugs or meeting up with someone for sex.

Regardless op should be careful

tolerable · 20/12/2024 02:37

Random lone men ? Is ever the same man?
Or actually random.. never same man ?

Jostuki · 20/12/2024 02:31

Drugs or dogging and neither will want to draw attention by doing anything to you or your dog.

Onceuponatime9 · 20/12/2024 02:22

Lovely as it seems there is no way I would walk alone in woods regardless of having a dog with me. You've been very brave OP.

CydonianKnight · 20/12/2024 02:13

Check online to see if it a geocaching location.

County lines operation round here, before they were busted, met up through a rented house. They even had a parcel delivery van bringing parcels. They weren’t lurking at all. All in plain sight.

Craftymam · 20/12/2024 01:50

I’m going for drugs. The bar for searching people on foot or bike is actually incredibly high. You don’t need any reason for searching someone in a car really.

BrightonFrock · 20/12/2024 01:13

In fact I know of one truck driver I spoke to who said he liked parking up overnight in the places the gays met up. With people in and out nobody tried to steal his diesel or load.

”No one tried to steal his load” 😁😁

florasl · 20/12/2024 01:07

I can’t get past the bit where you let your dogs chase pheasants for entertainment…

There are threads for days about how dreadful trail hunting is in case the dogs accidentally chase a fox, but letting your dog chase and presumably kill pheasants is fine?

Allthehorsesintheworld · 20/12/2024 01:01

though some, like pheasant man, do look a bit more nervous and a bit vulnerable - maybe a guilty look type vibe...)

That’s exactly why I’d report it. Vulnerable looking suggests possible exploitation.
If you get the What 3 Words location and report that on 101 I can’t see any way random men in a wood can know it’s you.