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To think illnesses can't come on this quick

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Talkabtit101 · 19/12/2024 19:04

Went to London Tuesday - went to Harry potter studios, and then stayed in a hotel for a couple nights, used swimming pool and went shopping on the Wednesday.

DD (5) got back home this morning and fell asleep a few hours after around 4 then woke up with a 38.5 fever and crying saying she didn't know what was wrong but felt poorly.

Now in our history of illnesses has rarely had a fever so I've succumbed to a wee bit of panic.

Just looking for some advice on do illnesses happen this quickly?? Could've been the only way we'd caught it as was WFH the few days before and DD is homeschooled.

I've gave calpol around half hour ago and fever is now at 38.2.

Posting for traffic and maybe a hand hold because I do have anxiety and ocd and I'm never good at handling illnesses, especially fevers. Thank you in advance.

OP posts:
DreamTheMoors · 20/12/2024 00:18

I remember once, I was maybe 14 or 15, and one minute I was fine and the next minute I was deathly ill — vomiting everything up and a high fever.
What scared me the most was my mum was a very calm woman, not one to overreact. But that night she slept in my room and every time I opened my eyes, there she was, looking over at me, the concern written on her face.
I’ve never been so sick - before or since. And my mum reverted to her stoic self.
I wouldn’t have been scared if Mum hadn’t acted so scared.

Doitrightnow · 20/12/2024 00:18

Yes. I once went to church feeling absolutely fine, fainted half way through the service and by the time I got home I was too ill with flu to even get out of bed for three days.

Similarly went to an exercise class feeling fine, an hour in started to feel dodgy, and 30mins after that was at home being violently sick with presumed norovirus.

I hope your DD gets well soon.

MumWifeOther · 20/12/2024 00:15

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 20/12/2024 00:12

I won't say what you sound like because I like posting here. Batshit would be a mild version.

I am highly educated thank you! I imagine you are also a conspiracy theorist? Disapprove of vaccinations??

Edited

Go and do some research then - start here amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/jun/04/why-parents-are-addicted-to-calpol

MrsSkylerWhite · 20/12/2024 00:13

So sorry but it absolutely does, with children and adults.

My husband has had sepsis 3 times now, most recently just a few weeks ago. Fine at breakfast, on iv antibiotics in the evening.

Not to be dithered about. If you’re concerned, get help.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 20/12/2024 00:12

MumWifeOther · 20/12/2024 00:10

You sound quite triggered. And uneducated 🤷🏽‍♀️

I won't say what you sound like because I like posting here. Batshit would be a mild version.

I am highly educated thank you! I imagine you are also a conspiracy theorist? Disapprove of vaccinations??

MumWifeOther · 20/12/2024 00:10

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 20/12/2024 00:03

Well I have reared three children to adulthood and I always was cautious with a temperature, due to the experience I shared further up the thread.

Not one of my three ever had an ear infection but I understand they're one of the most painful things a child can suffer.

I would never, ever have dealt with fevers the way you did, and I acted on the advice of my GP too.

I think your 'advice' is bonkers and dangerous! If giving Calpol/Nurofen eases your child's suffering (and it does), it's wrong and disgusting not to give it to them!!

"Tlc and immune support" - crazy!

You sound quite triggered. And uneducated 🤷🏽‍♀️

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 20/12/2024 00:07

Butterbean21 · 19/12/2024 20:18

Definitely can get sick that quickly. I remember putting DS for a bath and doing my makeup in the bathroom mirror while he played behind me. I turned around 2 minutes later and he was absolutely covered in chicken pox.

I look after the sickest people at work and it doesn't cause me any unrest but the second my children are sick I fall to pieces. I have no rational thoughts because they are my whole world. I take them in bed with me and wake at least hourly to check they are OK. I actually tend to not check their temp, I know when they have a fever and treat appropriately, the numbers don't add much. Also paracetamol tends to not bring the fever down so much for my kids like ibuprofen would. Your DC doesn't have any worrying features to me at the moment, sounds quite par for the course with a 5yo viral infection. Hope they feel much better soon

I discovered my youngest had CP too when he was in the bath! He was covered and it was in a very short space of time! At the same time, the lock on the bathroom door broke and DH had to kick the door in to get in to us lol!

He was 4 and he had such a horrible dose. On his eyes and everything. Eldest wasn't too bad, second was only 11 weeks and had a couple of spots. She got shingles in her early 20s though a few months after having Covid!

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 20/12/2024 00:03

MumWifeOther · 19/12/2024 23:29

Reading some of these comments I think it’s really important for us parents to be aware of what the purpose of a fever is.

Our bodies increase their temperature to make it harder for the pathogen to multiply. Interferring with this process by giving calpol or nurofen effectively makes it harder for our body to fight off the virus / bacteria. This can prolong recovery and actually makes it easier for pathogens to get deeper into the tissues sometimes leading to more serious complications.

Having a fever obviously makes us feel crap, but we’re not supposed to do anything besides rest and sleep, and actually more often than not, also avoid food, while our bodies recover.
Often, people give calpol etc and the children might go back to playing / normal activities, when actually they should be resting.

Some people believe that not giving calpol increases the risk of febrile seizures - this isn’t true. It’s a drastic change in temperature that does this so the advice is to avoid cold flannels, artificially cooling the body etc.

The overuse of calpol is a worrying trend and it’s not without risk. There is evidence that it depletes glutathione and excess usage of paracetamol is associated with increased rates of asthma, liver, kidney and heart damage. This is without considering the awful ingredients in a standard bottle.

I know lots of people may not believe me but you can verify this here using the NICE guidelines:

https://gpnotebook.com/en-GB/pages/infectious-disease/nice-guidance-use-of-paracetamol-and-ibuprofen-for-management-of-fever-in-child-under-5-years-old

I have 3 kids, my eldest being 12, and thankfully, I have only ever used calpol twice. Of course if they were in severe pain with a toothache or earache etc then I would give them a dose, but for managing fevers etc, we’ve always done lots of tlc and immune support.

My advice always is to watch the child and not the fever 🙏🏽

Well I have reared three children to adulthood and I always was cautious with a temperature, due to the experience I shared further up the thread.

Not one of my three ever had an ear infection but I understand they're one of the most painful things a child can suffer.

I would never, ever have dealt with fevers the way you did, and I acted on the advice of my GP too.

I think your 'advice' is bonkers and dangerous! If giving Calpol/Nurofen eases your child's suffering (and it does), it's wrong and disgusting not to give it to them!!

"Tlc and immune support" - crazy!

MumWifeOther · 19/12/2024 23:29

Reading some of these comments I think it’s really important for us parents to be aware of what the purpose of a fever is.

Our bodies increase their temperature to make it harder for the pathogen to multiply. Interferring with this process by giving calpol or nurofen effectively makes it harder for our body to fight off the virus / bacteria. This can prolong recovery and actually makes it easier for pathogens to get deeper into the tissues sometimes leading to more serious complications.

Having a fever obviously makes us feel crap, but we’re not supposed to do anything besides rest and sleep, and actually more often than not, also avoid food, while our bodies recover.
Often, people give calpol etc and the children might go back to playing / normal activities, when actually they should be resting.

Some people believe that not giving calpol increases the risk of febrile seizures - this isn’t true. It’s a drastic change in temperature that does this so the advice is to avoid cold flannels, artificially cooling the body etc.

The overuse of calpol is a worrying trend and it’s not without risk. There is evidence that it depletes glutathione and excess usage of paracetamol is associated with increased rates of asthma, liver, kidney and heart damage. This is without considering the awful ingredients in a standard bottle.

I know lots of people may not believe me but you can verify this here using the NICE guidelines:

https://gpnotebook.com/en-GB/pages/infectious-disease/nice-guidance-use-of-paracetamol-and-ibuprofen-for-management-of-fever-in-child-under-5-years-old

I have 3 kids, my eldest being 12, and thankfully, I have only ever used calpol twice. Of course if they were in severe pain with a toothache or earache etc then I would give them a dose, but for managing fevers etc, we’ve always done lots of tlc and immune support.

My advice always is to watch the child and not the fever 🙏🏽

NICE guidance - use of paracetamol and ibuprofen for management of fever in child under 5 years old – GPnotebook

An article from the infectious disease section of GPnotebook: NICE guidance - use of paracetamol and ibuprofen for management of fever in child under 5 years old.

https://gpnotebook.com/en-GB/pages/infectious-disease/nice-guidance-use-of-paracetamol-and-ibuprofen-for-management-of-fever-in-child-under-5-years-old

Iwishiwasagiraffe · 19/12/2024 22:17

it all sounds very normal to me and her fever isn’t too bad. I hope she’s on the mend soon

TeamGeriatric · 19/12/2024 22:13

A mild fever is common with these bugs going around, my youngest had a headache and a temperature of 38.5 when he woke up on Saturday, having been fine when he went to bed on Friday night. It just stayed like that all day, he slept a lot and was sick a few times in the afternoon, but by 10am on Sunday he was ravenous and bouncing off the walls. If it's creeping up to 39.5 that's when I'd start to be more concerned.

Tink63 · 19/12/2024 21:50

Yes. I booked an hotel in another city for a weekend break (non refundable). Less than 12 hours later I came down with Covid including a bad cold and fever.

When I was 21 I developed an auto immune disease from nowhere. I had pain in my shins in the morning and within hours my temperature was over 42 degrees.

in my experience after taking medication my temperature would rise a bit before it went down.

Bakedpumpkin · 19/12/2024 21:50

Talkabtit101 · 19/12/2024 19:56

I gave calpol at 6.30 and took the temp around 5 mins after which was 38.5 it's now saying 38.6 and I'm panicking now as it hasn't came down.

DH said Calpol might've already started working before I took first temp. He thinks I'm being silly by wanting to call 111 as dd is sleeping

Have you actually read the NHS link someone shared above ? There is no need to seek medical attention for fever in a child after one day unless other symptoms on that Amber/Red list warrant it. It’s very normal to have a virus/temp in December !

Nerdsarecoolwhatdoyoumean · 19/12/2024 21:39

Just to add in case your child has asthma, do not give ibuprofen to your child if they have asthma without speaking to a doctor first.

I only mention this as I've seen people advise alternating paracetmol and ibuprofen. Which is the correct thing to do unless the person in need suffer suffers from asthma.

MumblesParty · 19/12/2024 21:33

You need to give nurofen to get a persistent temperature down, it’s more effective than calpol.

Iamthemoom · 19/12/2024 21:22

DD just had flu and came down with it 2 days after only possible exposure. Went from fine to very high temp in 2 hours. Flu can do that. And there's a lot about.

Blutopia · 19/12/2024 21:17

I've always been prone to throat infections so could always recognise the first signs...scratchy throat, worsening over 6-12 hrs before becoming full bore infection etc.

Then a couple of years ago I went from happily working from home in fine health, to suddenly having searing pain behind my nose on one side. I carried on working but within 30 mins I came over feeling so ill, I had to go and lie down. That was the start of a 4-day flu which was mostly high temp and diarrhoea. Great fun.

Our grandkids have all been on and off with temperatures lately. I hope she feels better soon OP.

gamerchick · 19/12/2024 21:17

Noro is a fastening bug though. Albeit terrifying. All it does is paralysis your stomach. Everything in there gets ejected at force no matter where you are digesting it.

And it's hard to kill. It can stay alive in still water for weeks and alive on surfaces for a while and you're only immune to it for a short time afterwards. It's the only time and other stomach bugs that I use bleach in the house on all the touch points after a good soaping down.

Muchtoomuchtodo · 19/12/2024 21:15

greengreyblue · 19/12/2024 21:05

Alternate Calpol and calprofen every 2 hrs. With kids they recover quickly too. Fevers make them feel odd but the meds will really help. Hope she’s well for Christmas.

That would end up overdosing the child.

calpol is a maximum of 4 doses in 24 hours and ibuprofen a maximum of 3-4 doses a day.

UnmentionedElephantDildo · 19/12/2024 21:14

Bupster · 19/12/2024 19:48

OP, I think there are two questions here: how long does it take for viruses to incubate (for symptoms to develop after exposure, so could she have picked this up on the trip); and could the symptoms come on very quickly, so could she go from well to sick within hours.

Most people are answering the second question, not the first, but I think @UnmentionedElephantDildo has answered the first and it sounds like they know what they're talking about and this could be a virus. I always thought Covid was about five days from exposure to symptoms, and colds were about three, but they sound much more knowledgeable.

Hope you are all feeling better soon - there is a lot of RSV going around and it is horrible.

Original covid was ~5 days.

Newer variants can be as fast as 2

Tortielady · 19/12/2024 21:06

With norovirus, it took me half an hour to go from normal and enjoying a lovely big bunch of green seedless grapes to doing a remake of the green vomit scene in The Exorcist. It was repulsive and I couldn't tolerate the thought of solid food for several days. And then my DH got it, except he at least had some warning. Viruses strike fast and hard and they wipe you out and make staying in bed a very good idea. The more I slept, the better I felt.

greengreyblue · 19/12/2024 21:05

Alternate Calpol and calprofen every 2 hrs. With kids they recover quickly too. Fevers make them feel odd but the meds will really help. Hope she’s well for Christmas.

SamPoodle123 · 19/12/2024 21:04

Talkabtit101 · 19/12/2024 19:56

I gave calpol at 6.30 and took the temp around 5 mins after which was 38.5 it's now saying 38.6 and I'm panicking now as it hasn't came down.

DH said Calpol might've already started working before I took first temp. He thinks I'm being silly by wanting to call 111 as dd is sleeping

38.5 is nothing! My eldest used to get 40.5 fevers whenever she got them! Calpol would bring it down to 39.....it happened a few times and now she is almost 13 so outgrew getting fevers (cant remember the last time she had one). Just make sure your dd stays hydrated and not floppy.

Lobstercrisps · 19/12/2024 21:02

I had flu in my 20s.

We went out for dinner with my husbands family. Sat down, ordered, had a sip of wine. Started shaking, thought I might be sick, left the table, got a taxi home and stayed in bed for three days.

Was still feeling faint 3 weeks later.

Also op, does it really matter where they caught the bug from? Children get bugs.

greengreyblue · 19/12/2024 21:02

Yes especially with flu or a sickness bug.

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