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To distance myself from my best friend who is just as lovely and caring as ever?

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useran · 19/12/2024 13:40

I’ve been friends with this girl since sixth form, so a long time now. We’re both in our early 30s. I’m married, have a toddler, and am a stay-at-home mom. She’s working, traveling, has a boyfriend but zero interest in marriage or kids (her words: “kids give me nightmares”). Basically, we’re living completely different lives.

There’s no big falling out or anything, it’s just that, for me, the friendship feels like it’s fizzled out. Definitely not for her though. She’s still messaging me all day, every day. It’s “Good morning!” followed by “Look at this dress I bought” or “Does this onion look off?” and “Send me baby pics, I miss her!” A few months ago, I was right there with her, loving the daily chatter and feeling so lucky to have her as my best friend.

Then we had this tiny, silly argument, a complete misunderstanding, and didn’t talk for a week. Ever since then, something’s shifted for me. Those conversations that used to be fun now just feel… pointless. She’ll call during the day (she works from home) to say, “Hey, what are you up to? Want to see my nail polish?” And instead of enjoying it, I’m thinking, “Okay, can we get to the point? I'd rather head to the park.”

She hasn’t changed; she’s still sweet, funny, and caring. But after that week of silence, i don't feel at all as keen as I used to. All the updates about random stuff—what we ate, what’s happening next week, the usual—it just feels like too much now.

I can’t figure out why I feel this way. Maybe it’s because our lives are so different, but that feels like a lame excuse. Or maybe it’s because she’s still friendly with someone who was horrible to me in my late 20s (and she knows it). But that’s been the case for years, so why would it bother me now?

I don’t know what’s changed, but something has, and I just don’t feel the same about the friendship anymore.

She came over yesterday, brought a present for my toddler, and we had pizzas. It was fun (on paper, anyway). We talked non-stop, nothing awkward or strained, but I just didn’t enjoy it the way I used to. I wasn’t that interested in the conversation, even though it flowed fine. My toddler, on the other hand, had the best time, which somehow makes me feel even worse. If I let this friendship go, it’s not just me who loses out, my child does too, and she really loves seeing her.

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Wellthisisnewandunwelcome · 19/12/2024 14:57

Stillhere2024 · 19/12/2024 14:51

Hi OP I completely understand where you are coming from here, when you are a mum to young children the things that amused you before are not as interesting to you. Also you can't have long chats on the phone / spend lots of time texting when your child is waiting for their lunch / a cuddle / attention or whatever. I would dial down the friendship and not reply every time, especially to texts about her lunch and onions! If the friendship peters out then that is on her. Just say you don't have as much time to text at the moment but you will check your messages when you can! Light and breezy! But I get where you are coming from, friendships come and go and sometimes work for periods of time and then not others. It is normal for things to dial down when you are in different seasons. It does seem a bit odd to be texting that much though... even with a close friend... but maybe that is just me!

Sorry if i am being dense here but if the OP stops responding to messages and the friendship peters out then why would that be on the OPs friend?

Duckswaddle · 19/12/2024 14:57

You’re in different places in your lives, but that’s not a bad thing. Don’t let a good friendship die - you will need her when your kid is older and your SAHM life becomes redundant.

Terrribletwos · 19/12/2024 14:56

useran · 19/12/2024 14:05

@Vinni8 as I've already said, I'm completely over the argument. It wasn't anything major.

I'm saying I feel different after that "week off". Like I enjoyed not getting the constant updates on what her breakfast is or questions on my favourite gym leggings

I don't think you're being unreasonable for not wanting constant updates about everything she does. She sounds a bit full on and a bit needy. Keep being friends but just take a step back and don't respond to every single message from her. She sounds a bit insecure at this time but it's maybe just a time in her life. I would keep the friendship open.

VegTrug · 19/12/2024 14:56

So in other words it’s one single tiny disagreement strike and she’s out?!? Wow

housethatbuiltme · 19/12/2024 14:55

useran · 19/12/2024 13:53

That too partly. I'd rather be at the playground or museum with my baby than making my child wait whilst I look at the contents of her fridge to help her decide what to eat.

But I feel guilty for feeling that way.

Yeah it sounds like you're tired and busy with your real life serious responsibilities and basically have another child to look after.

Contacting you constantly about trivial things while your trying to deal with a baby isn't endearing its annoying. Why are you expected to pick her dinner for her or admire her nail polish... its like having a 6 year old going 'mummy, mummy, watch me' while your legitimately busy.

If it was your husband demanding constant attention for silly little things like that and making digs disguised as 'jokes' about you being tired when you been up all night with a sick baby people would say hes a man baby. Its not magically different for friends, siblings or anyone else either.

Entertaining her co-dependent needs (because she hasn't grown up yet and has too much time to kill) is not your responsibility and if its too much you are allowed to put yourself first.

GofE · 19/12/2024 14:53

Maybe she thinks she is helping you 'stay connected' now that you are a 'full time SAHM'.
I send my Mum similarly mundane messages constantly as i know she is at home (as a carer for my terminally ill father) so i imagine she must be bored at home. Your friend sounds like a good friend that maybe thinks she is helping.

TunipTheVegimal24 · 19/12/2024 14:52

You don't have to be living the same life, to have a friendship with someone? I keep in touch with friends who are purposefully without children, and always find it interesting to know what they've been up to, plus I care about them as people, so am interested in how they are.

Also remember, in the course of a lifetime, the baby years are very short. Ten years max for most people. You may find you have more common interests / more time & energy gor the friendship, once these years are behind you. I wouldn't jack a whole friendship like this in over a flippant comment, and a cba attitude where you're tired - longstanding friendships like this are rare and precious.

WestwardHo1 · 19/12/2024 14:52

Your friend sounds lovely.

I think you would be mad to throw this friendship away simply because you can't imagine how awful it must be to be childless. When your child is less all consuming you will still need friends - if you carry on like this, all you will have are superficial mum friends and all you have in common are your kids. What happens when the kids are no longer so time consuming?

However if your friend wants a friendship where it's all more reciprocated, let her move on.

Stillhere2024 · 19/12/2024 14:51

Hi OP I completely understand where you are coming from here, when you are a mum to young children the things that amused you before are not as interesting to you. Also you can't have long chats on the phone / spend lots of time texting when your child is waiting for their lunch / a cuddle / attention or whatever. I would dial down the friendship and not reply every time, especially to texts about her lunch and onions! If the friendship peters out then that is on her. Just say you don't have as much time to text at the moment but you will check your messages when you can! Light and breezy! But I get where you are coming from, friendships come and go and sometimes work for periods of time and then not others. It is normal for things to dial down when you are in different seasons. It does seem a bit odd to be texting that much though... even with a close friend... but maybe that is just me!

ShyBlueDreamer · 19/12/2024 14:49

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Visun · 19/12/2024 14:49

Heronwatcher · 19/12/2024 14:45

I think your lives are at different stage and at the moment you’re in a bit of a young mum bubble with your toddler, so maybe the chat feels a bit insignificant or you feel it’s bursting the bubble a bit.

BUT

One day your DC will be a teenager who thinks you’re the most annoying person they’ve ever met. You might also start feeling a bit over being mum all the time and want to start spending more time on other things. Your kids will leave home. You might have a breakdown in your marriage or health issues. That’s when you need friends, good ones, and lots of them.

So don’t cut her off or faze her out- for now at least- as you’ll change over time and so will she.

Agree with this

Blibbleflibble · 19/12/2024 14:48

OP I think I would definitely just speak to her about how you haven't got the bandwidth to be on the phone all day anymore. I wouldn't throw away the friendship but I would take steps to stop being in constant contact with each other.

Do you think it's just the constant chatter? I don't think I could cope with that. Maybe you'll feel better about the friendship in smaller doses.

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 19/12/2024 14:47

I don't think it sounds like a huge deal.
You'd been doing something one way for years.
Something happened and you had the opportunity to try out a different way and you discovered you really like the new way.

You can still be friends but maybe talk to her about how often you are able to chat/get together.

lionloaf · 19/12/2024 14:47

More than slightly, the OP’s posts are dripping with it.

“I can't think of anything worse (for me!) than to be childless, it's everything I've ever wanted.”

The (for me!) is fooling no one. It all sounds so judgy and like you can’t possibly find her life interesting as shes not doing something as ImPoRtAnT as being a mother. Her interests and her friendship were good enough for you previously. She is going out of her way to continue to be your friend and take an interest in your child, which not many would do.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 19/12/2024 14:47

I would find that level of friendship suffocating. It sounds really needy, constantly contacting you like that but it seems that you both enjoyed this and now you no longer do. You have a child, your mind is probably exploding with all the responsibilities you have not to mention lack of sleep and lack of personal time. In the midst of all this she wants to tell you about her nail varnish. Of course it feels trivial to you. I would feel the same.

Your lives are just really different right now and you don't have the time or energy to invest so much into your friendship. I think this is OK but also not her fault. Maybe try to reduce the constant correspondence and arrange less frequent but more quality time. If you hadn't heard from her in a while you would probably have been delighted with her visit. Don't let her go, she sounds like a good friend but she needs to understand you are not as available as you were. Talk to her, explain you may not be able to keep up with daily contact. If you still feel that disconnect after a few months maybe there is something else but I reckon it's just too much for you right now.

I think most friends where one has a child and the other doesn't go through some version of this change of dynamic.

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TheYearOfSmallThings · 19/12/2024 14:47

You need to examine the argument and how it made you feel. Did it reveal something about her or her views that you dislike?

This is good advice. I've had the way I felt about a friend changed by one comment, and it would sound both petty and insane if I repeated the comment, but for myself it was useful to pinpoint why it got to me so much. She is not a bad person but I understand why I now feel we are just going through the motions and it has the potential to turn ugly if I say the wrong thing or question her judgement in any way.

Heronwatcher · 19/12/2024 14:45

I think your lives are at different stage and at the moment you’re in a bit of a young mum bubble with your toddler, so maybe the chat feels a bit insignificant or you feel it’s bursting the bubble a bit.

BUT

One day your DC will be a teenager who thinks you’re the most annoying person they’ve ever met. You might also start feeling a bit over being mum all the time and want to start spending more time on other things. Your kids will leave home. You might have a breakdown in your marriage or health issues. That’s when you need friends, good ones, and lots of them.

So don’t cut her off or faze her out- for now at least- as you’ll change over time and so will she.

MellowCritic · 19/12/2024 14:44

useran · 19/12/2024 13:53

That too partly. I'd rather be at the playground or museum with my baby than making my child wait whilst I look at the contents of her fridge to help her decide what to eat.

But I feel guilty for feeling that way.

But why does reading her messages mean you have to pick and choose to do stuff with your child instead? Of course you will do stuff with your child and go to the park over reading a message... that doesn't mean when you have 2 mins or 5 mins to spare you can't read the message and reply. Your friend isn't asking you to pick her message over her child and it sounds like she adores your LO...

Nc92982822 · 19/12/2024 14:44

For someone who doesn’t have any interest in children/marriage/being a homebody to still make so much effort with you and your child she must really like you. Lots of friendships dissipate entirely at this age due to the fact that it’s very 50/50 people living the white picket fence life with babies vs partying in Ibiza and spending their free time socialising (both totally acceptable ways to live life and equally fulfilling in different ways).

There’s always lots of posts I see online of women feeling abandoned when they become a mother before their friend(s) so if there’s not been a major issue it sounds like you might be shooting yourself in the foot by ditching this one when she clearly does want to spend time with you.

Don’t make any rash decisions, it’s pretty normal for people to go through phases of slightly getting on your nerves for whatever reason and then a few weeks later you see them again and really enjoy having them around.

MrsClaw90 · 19/12/2024 14:43

Sounds like you have fallen out of love with her

Not in a romantic way, but you know sometimes it happens in friendships too

lionloaf · 19/12/2024 14:42

You sound really judgemental of your friend for not wanting what you want (i.e. kids). The row sounds like it was one you were dying to have with her, to show her she “doesn’t get it” because you’re a parent now.

You sound like a shit pal and your friend would be better off without you. You'll be on here in a few years time complaining that you’ve no mates because you were so busy being a “full time mum”.

Christmaslover1986 · 19/12/2024 14:41

MillyVannily · 19/12/2024 14:40

This is excellent advice. You are just at different stages of life and need to find some balance than works for both. Less contact is definitely something you need.

It worked for me and one of my friends. Constant messages and phone calls when you have a toddler and a job is too much. I just told her I would be on my phone less.

I think without realising we make a lot of issues for ourselves, for example if OP just put boundaries in place and spoke to her friend less she would most likely find a lot of her issues would be solved.

MillyVannily · 19/12/2024 14:40

Christmaslover1986 · 19/12/2024 14:08

Then instead of cutting her off, set boundaries like an adult and reply to her less. Say your new years 2025 goal is to be on your phone less so you will have to wait for replies in the new year

This is excellent advice. You are just at different stages of life and need to find some balance than works for both. Less contact is definitely something you need.

Cardinalita90 · 19/12/2024 14:39

It comes across like you're looking down on her a bit for having different areas of focus in her life than you. She's done nothing wrong so cutting her out would be mean - as others say if its the level of contact that's getting you down then set some new boundaries in a kind way. People talk about feeling lonely as a parent but it can be lonely thenother way round too, feeling out of step with your friends (whether through choice or otherwise) and it sounds like she's trying hard to keep the connection. Be a little empathetic.