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The annual Christmas ritual of reading DP the riot act

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DBD1975 · 19/12/2024 12:16

Looking for any tips or advice following on from the why do men steal all of the joy out of everything.

My family Christmas day, in-laws Boxing day. Just about to have the annual talk about don't make Christmas day weird or awkward by having to prompt you to be a courteous host, don't roll your eyes every time I ask you to help with something. Be sociable, join in and make an effort.

So far I have done everything for Christmas including buying my own presents for DP to give me and buying all the presents for in-laws and I will also be wrapping them.

DP has done s** all other than moan, sulk and act like a petulant teenager.

I will end up having to have the extra energy on both days to make up for my DP being so lack lustre/bar humbug.

It is more the upset in his routine which he finds hard to cope with, not to mention the chaos which comes with Christmas.

Any tips or advice gratefully received. Please note I have no intention of splitting up with him for those who will go nuclear over the situation.

OP posts:
username299 · 19/12/2024 13:06

Take responsibility for your own decisions.

Taytoface · 19/12/2024 13:06

I am not sure what the point of this post is. Are we supposed to find it funny? Are you looking for sympathy? Do you want our permission to bin him off?

HurdyGurdy19 · 19/12/2024 13:06

If you lay down and act like a doormat, people will walk over you

Just stop. Stop doing everything. If it doesn't get done, and he shows off about it, just shrug your shoulders and say it's just too much for one person to manage. Do NOT ask for help, as that suggests that it is all your job, and you are incapable of completing all your tasks.

It's not your job to mask his antisocial behaviour - so don't. Let him show others what he is like. If he doesn't like his routine changed, then in future, maybe suggest he books into a nice hotel on his own for the Christmas period, so he can suit himself as to what he does, and leaves everyone else to have a nice time.

Takeoutyourhen · 19/12/2024 13:05

neurodivergent or weaponised incompetence?
Hand the baton over to him for next year and I foresee that he will leave present buying and wrapping far too late, get in a stress and tantrum but hopefully he’d be capable of acknowledging all the work you put in. And don’t help him!
Can he manage with anything else around the home?

Sleepysleepycoffeecoffee · 19/12/2024 13:03

DBD1975 · 19/12/2024 12:16

Looking for any tips or advice following on from the why do men steal all of the joy out of everything.

My family Christmas day, in-laws Boxing day. Just about to have the annual talk about don't make Christmas day weird or awkward by having to prompt you to be a courteous host, don't roll your eyes every time I ask you to help with something. Be sociable, join in and make an effort.

So far I have done everything for Christmas including buying my own presents for DP to give me and buying all the presents for in-laws and I will also be wrapping them.

DP has done s** all other than moan, sulk and act like a petulant teenager.

I will end up having to have the extra energy on both days to make up for my DP being so lack lustre/bar humbug.

It is more the upset in his routine which he finds hard to cope with, not to mention the chaos which comes with Christmas.

Any tips or advice gratefully received. Please note I have no intention of splitting up with him for those who will go nuclear over the situation.

He sounds like a shit and it sounds like you’ve put up with it for a long time. Not sure what advice you’re actually looking for here

WhyDoesDenisNotRhymeWithPenis · 19/12/2024 13:03

There's absolutely no need for you to martyr yourself and run around doing stuff for your bloke.
The only reason to have a boyfriend is for your life to be massively enhanced by him, he should bring you peace and fun. Otherwise what on earth are you doing?

FuckItItsFine · 19/12/2024 13:00

This is pathetic. Why are you still with him?

Motheranddaughter · 19/12/2024 13:00

I certainly wouldn't be buying his side's presents
Not that my DH would expect me to

SoupDragon · 19/12/2024 12:59

So far I have done everything for Christmas including buying my own presents for DP to give me and buying all the presents for in-laws and I will also be wrapping them.
DP has done s all other than moan, sulk and act like a petulant teenager.

Of course he's done nothing. Why would he when you do everything?

If you are just going to put up with it every year like you have done so far, then you just have to suck it up. Nothing is going to change if you just carry on doing it all.

MamaBinturong · 19/12/2024 12:58

Do you feign surprise when you open your own presents? 😀

LittleBitAlexisLaLaLaLaLa · 19/12/2024 12:58

And being useless and antisocial isn’t a man thing, it’s a dickhead thing. More women still need to raise their standards.

MrsSunshine2b · 19/12/2024 12:58

Send him to bed early and ground him from his devices for a week, as you would with any other naughty child.

sweetpickle2 · 19/12/2024 12:56

He's an arsehole but you're complicit, having let this behaviour slide for your whole marriage. Not sure what you want people to suggest.

It's not "nuclear" to suggest that your life would be better off without babying your husband. How on earth do you even fancy him?

Ponderingwindow · 19/12/2024 12:55

Do you need to do as much socially as you are insisting he do? Yes, he needs to be polite and yes, he needs to contribute to the workload, but not everyone enjoys a big chaotic Christmas.

MayaPinion · 19/12/2024 12:55

OhBling · 19/12/2024 12:45

If this is what he's like, and he's shit on Christmas, and you are overall happy, I'd stop trying to change him. But I would not cover for him and I would be lowering everyone else's expectations etc.

So, for a start, I'd be ditching celebrations with in laws and/or massively downgrading them, "Oh, you know DH, he doesn't realyl care about Christmas and I'm exhausted from all the effort so we're dialling it back a bit"

'Oh MIL - I'm glad you like those slippers - needless to say, DH hasn't got involved in the gift buying at ALL. You know what he's like.... sigh/hahaha".

"Hi mum and dad - right, Dad, you're in charge of topping everyone's drinks up. YOu know what DH is like - we can't rely on him to get it sorted so I need your help this year."

Don’t do this. It’s very passive aggressive. Criticising him to his family just makes you look like a shitty human being, no matter how deserved it is.

MyPithyPoster · 19/12/2024 12:55

How do people end up with these dickhead? I would tell him in no uncertain terms shape up or ship out even if you don’t mean it doesn’t do any harm to think he could lose you at any moment if he doesn’t behave himself.

FourChimneys · 19/12/2024 12:55

Good grief, don't pander to him, he sounds miserable.

My DH comes from a traditional, ie, patriarchal, family where the women did all the work, and still do in some cases. I made it very clear to them all when we got married that DH was in charge of cards and presents for his family and I was in no way taking over that role. There was a bit of muttering but I ignored it.

Depending on DHs level of organisation, they got presents some years but not others. Not my problem at all. I would never have dreamt of asking him to sort my family's presents out.

Yes, a quiet spot under the stairs or in the shed sounds ideal OP.

user1471538283 · 19/12/2024 12:53

I once helped my ex get gifts for his large family. He left it until Christmas Eve as it would be "magical" apparently. It was not. I was in tears from the stress and I never did it again. So he did it (or not I can't remember). I just did my family and friends.

But he was a trooper with the tree, buying the food and the cooking.

My DF loved Christmas. He bought presents, shopped, cooked, put up decorations and made a fuss of everyone. It was joyful. The only year I spent Christmas with just my DM was so horrible. The miserable bitch didn't even sit at the table.

So not all men are like yours OP.

StormingNorman · 19/12/2024 12:53

OhBling · 19/12/2024 12:45

If this is what he's like, and he's shit on Christmas, and you are overall happy, I'd stop trying to change him. But I would not cover for him and I would be lowering everyone else's expectations etc.

So, for a start, I'd be ditching celebrations with in laws and/or massively downgrading them, "Oh, you know DH, he doesn't realyl care about Christmas and I'm exhausted from all the effort so we're dialling it back a bit"

'Oh MIL - I'm glad you like those slippers - needless to say, DH hasn't got involved in the gift buying at ALL. You know what he's like.... sigh/hahaha".

"Hi mum and dad - right, Dad, you're in charge of topping everyone's drinks up. YOu know what DH is like - we can't rely on him to get it sorted so I need your help this year."

Spiteful and shaming approach. Not a way I’d treat someone I loved no matter how irritated I was.

RaspberryCombat · 19/12/2024 12:53

TheCatterall · 19/12/2024 12:20

Can’t you just keep him under the stairs until after Christmas and bring him back out then and dust him off?

I tried this once but by the time I remembered to get DH out after Christmas he’d become a wizard, done wizard A-levels, been on some quests and stuff. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Jl2014 · 19/12/2024 12:53

He’s a twat but you are enabling him. Stop buying presents for him.

IAm16StoneHalloween2024 · 19/12/2024 12:52

NameChange1936 · 19/12/2024 12:45

Depends what he's like the rest of the year, OP.
My DH really dislikes Christmas. He hates the chaos and the noise, the decorations extra clutter around the house, the chintzy music, the artificial happiness, the commercialism, the one-upmanship... it's all his worst things rolled into one, and he just wants to opt out of the whole thing. (We both suspect he is ND but that might be beside the point.) But he's generally pretty decent.
So, things that are important to me or the DC, I take care of. I buy presents for myself and the DC. DH is genuinely not fussed about a present, so I don't usually get him one. I buy (or get down from the loft) the decorations and the tree, although we decorate the tree as a family. I do the grocery shop. He enjoys cooking so we both cook. We have a small, pared down Christmas day, just the 4 of us, consisting of church, presents, a nice meal, and a long walk. We see in-laws either side of Christmas, but I don't buy presents for his side. He sometimes gets his brother something, but his whole family isn't that fussed about gifts. I buy for my side.
We have other family traditions surrounding Christmas that he enjoys and participates in, e.g. a dawn picnic at the winter solstice.
Honestly I love Christmas now that we've pared it back. I stopped doing everything, and realised that most of it really doesn't matter. I used to feel so much pressure to make Christmas into this massive "thing" but actually, if you let loads of it slide and just hang on to the bits that are really important to you, it makes for a much more meaningful, less stressful experience. And, because DH hasn't been completely overstimulated by all the extra stressor, he's in a better frame of mind and doesn't need reminding to act like a normal human being 😉

I think you’ve done that really really well. You’ve kept the bits that are actually important and you are willing to do and dropped everything else. Perfect!

DaringLion · 19/12/2024 12:49

You buy your own presents and put from DH . WHY?

Sparkletastic · 19/12/2024 12:49

Mine can be like this but I won't tolerate it. Here's what has helped:

Tell him loud and clear in November that you will not be buying or wrapping presents for his family. Mean it.
Don't bother getting presents for one-another at Christmas. We both have birthdays latter quarter of year so not a big sacrifice.
Don't over-extend yourselves socially at Christmas. Keep it to 2 days entertaining max. I do Christmas Day catering and he does Boxing Day.
Clear instructions on the day to all members of family on what they are responsible for - e.g DH does drinks and washing up, DCs replenish and circulate snacks / canapés etc.
Ignore any mood and focus on other family members.

HTH