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Is husband expecting too much 4 months PP or AIBU

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LaurenOX · 19/12/2024 10:59

Gave birth to our second son 4 weeks ago via c section. First son has just turned 4. Husband is back in work (wfh 1 day a week).

Last night husband took off on me for the house being “untidy”. To give context, husband hates clutter and his definition of untidy is things being left around the house (shoes by the door, parcels being left on the island, a chopping board in the sink and eldest son’s toys left out). Despite the clutter, the bathrooms had been cleaned and the floors hoovered/mopped and a duster had been thrown around. A wash load had been dried and put away with another wash just finished. I explained that the only time I had to do any housework was 2 hours in the afternoon due to taking my son to a play group he attends weekly and having to get the bus due to not being able to drive. Husband still accused me of not doing enough around the house.

I am EBF and son feeds every 2-3 hours all day/night. Of an evening he cluster feeds from about 8 until 12. Husband has been sleeping in with my eldest son who can still wake in the night but certainly not to the extent of our newborn. He may wake 1 or 2 times and will fall straight back asleep after some reassurance. Husband has taken on responsibilities for eldest son, he does bath time of an evening and gets him ready of a morning for pre-school (jobs which I used to do before baby’s arrival) I told my husband I appreciate he is doing more, but I am exhausted I have a baby on my boob constantly and he is being unreasonable to expect any more from me this early on. He suggested that I’m never too exhausted to do any of the fun things (I went the Christmas market with my son and my friend and her son one afternoon this week). We went to bed on an argument and this morning the last thing he said before leaving for work was “have a productive day”.

So question is, is he being an inconsiderate A* AIBU to think he is being wholly unreasonable?

OP posts:
MonickerMonica · 19/12/2024 16:00

Haven't read all posts but certainly get the gist of this thread. I know there are good guys out there who do their share but would be surprised if it's more than one in a hundred 🫤

This reminds me of a friend who had been married for several years and they had 3 school age children. She was doing just about everything on the domestic side and while not feeling very well she asked him to change the bedding as it was overdue.
He didn't know where the clean stuff was and she realised he'd NEVER done it in all their married years. I expect this is very common.

MyDeftDuck · 19/12/2024 16:00

What a totally uncaring shitbag of a man! I had a C-section with my first baby - Discharged from hospital after 5 days (years ago mums were kept in hospital longer) and as soon as I got home it was evident he had done NOTHING in the house! I had to clean the bathroom, wash a weeks worth of pots, do the laundry, and then he had the nerve to demand sex "because I hadn't had a normal delivery and it wouldn't hurt my fanny"! I wish I had walked away that day😡

Faeriewell · 19/12/2024 15:57

Welp. He's a dickhead.

You've not even fully recovered from a csection. Is he mental? You had a baby 4 weeks ago. He can fuck off. You really shouldn't be pushing your body too much. Don't listen to him. He obviously doesn't give a shit. You matter more than his anal urge to have a tidy house. That's what he's for, he can clean it while you tend to the babies. Vile man.

Ilovecakey · 19/12/2024 15:57

"Have a productive day" tell him to get fucked!

QuietlyWonderful · 19/12/2024 15:52

I think what may have seemed like a 'fair' share 6 weeks ago, before baby arrived, is no longer fair - your workload has increased and his is unchanged. He should be picking up more tasks, just as you have had to.

Pallisers · 19/12/2024 15:51

Honeycrisp · 19/12/2024 15:44

The productive part would make me particularly stabby if I was literally producing milk.

Yes you are literally feeding a baby from your own body and he thinks you aren't being productive?? You are the epitome of productive - you created an entire new human being and are now keeping it alive. The more I think about your husband, OP, the more I want to kick him hard.

KeepinOn · 19/12/2024 15:51

If anything you're doing too much.

Trumpetoftheswan2 · 19/12/2024 15:50

Having read your update, it sounds like your dh hasn't grasped the impact that going from 1 to 2 children has had on you ie major surgery, back to near constant bf-ing plus the care of a new baby.

He probably feels that he is doing loads by doing more with your oldest whereas, in reality, that's the easy bit.

You both need to find a way that is more 'we' ie how we're going to keep the house clean rather than it being your job so by default your problem.

Innocentrailway · 19/12/2024 15:48

I am aghast on your behalf. Who made him the boss of you? What an absolute arsehole.

BeAzureAnt · 19/12/2024 15:46

LaurenOX · 19/12/2024 10:59

Gave birth to our second son 4 weeks ago via c section. First son has just turned 4. Husband is back in work (wfh 1 day a week).

Last night husband took off on me for the house being “untidy”. To give context, husband hates clutter and his definition of untidy is things being left around the house (shoes by the door, parcels being left on the island, a chopping board in the sink and eldest son’s toys left out). Despite the clutter, the bathrooms had been cleaned and the floors hoovered/mopped and a duster had been thrown around. A wash load had been dried and put away with another wash just finished. I explained that the only time I had to do any housework was 2 hours in the afternoon due to taking my son to a play group he attends weekly and having to get the bus due to not being able to drive. Husband still accused me of not doing enough around the house.

I am EBF and son feeds every 2-3 hours all day/night. Of an evening he cluster feeds from about 8 until 12. Husband has been sleeping in with my eldest son who can still wake in the night but certainly not to the extent of our newborn. He may wake 1 or 2 times and will fall straight back asleep after some reassurance. Husband has taken on responsibilities for eldest son, he does bath time of an evening and gets him ready of a morning for pre-school (jobs which I used to do before baby’s arrival) I told my husband I appreciate he is doing more, but I am exhausted I have a baby on my boob constantly and he is being unreasonable to expect any more from me this early on. He suggested that I’m never too exhausted to do any of the fun things (I went the Christmas market with my son and my friend and her son one afternoon this week). We went to bed on an argument and this morning the last thing he said before leaving for work was “have a productive day”.

So question is, is he being an inconsiderate A* AIBU to think he is being wholly unreasonable?

Tell him if you don't meet his standards, fine...time to get a professional cleaner then. Your DH is being very, very unreasonable.

BettyBardMacDonald · 19/12/2024 15:46

apostrophewoman · 19/12/2024 11:06

If my husband said that to me, I wouldn't explain or justify anything. I'd tell him to fuck right off with his opinions and if he's not happy, he can tidy the house himself.

This. "Have a productive day" indeed.

Is he the sole financial support of the household? I note that when that is the case, they think they have a live-in maid of all work and the right to order her about.

Honeycrisp · 19/12/2024 15:44

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 19/12/2024 15:43

YES THIS.

But the very fact that this idiot needs reminding about major abdominal surgery yet makes shit pompous comments like "Have a productive day" as he leaves the house makes me so cross on your behalf.

Where did this idea that he's amazing come from? Hazard a guess its self promotion.

The productive part would make me particularly stabby if I was literally producing milk.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 19/12/2024 15:43

strawberry2017 · 19/12/2024 15:19

You need to remind your husband that you had major abdominal surgery 4 weeks ago and the doctors have instructed you to take things easy. You need to be careful whilst you're healing coz if your scar rips he will have a whole lot of work to do on his hands when you have to start healing from scratch!
And whilst you're at it tell him to stop acting like a knob.

YES THIS.

But the very fact that this idiot needs reminding about major abdominal surgery yet makes shit pompous comments like "Have a productive day" as he leaves the house makes me so cross on your behalf.

Where did this idea that he's amazing come from? Hazard a guess its self promotion.

SealMum · 19/12/2024 15:40

I was utterly outraged when I thought you were 4 months post partum, let alone 4 weeks! And you've had a c-section! Recovery time is 6 weeks at least. Your husband should be looking after you, not expecting to live in a spotless house.

But "Have a productive day"? He can fuck off and then fuck off some more. And then keep fucking off til he physically can't fuck off any further.

MostlyHappyMummy · 19/12/2024 15:27

Doteycat · 19/12/2024 15:21

in 38 Years and with 3 kids not once has DH ever ever ever told me to "have a productive day"
Or ciricised the house, or the lack of dinner on bad days, or a single fucking thing i didnt manage to do when i was PP.
I cannot, just CANNOT fathom wtf is wrong with these men.
and how you can even bear to look at him, never mind ask if you are being unreasonable.
You are not being unreasonable enought.
Hes an UTTER shit.
Utterly. Shame on him. Id tell him get to fuck tbh, loudly, while standing in the mess i would henceforth refuse to ever clean up again as long as he lived there.

This is very relevant.
but the thing that stands out from your posts is why you think he's not being a dickhead by making you go against medical advice
maybe it's hard for you to see as he's been this abusive for your whole relationship
I hope you get support irl and can leave

Doteycat · 19/12/2024 15:21

in 38 Years and with 3 kids not once has DH ever ever ever told me to "have a productive day"
Or ciricised the house, or the lack of dinner on bad days, or a single fucking thing i didnt manage to do when i was PP.
I cannot, just CANNOT fathom wtf is wrong with these men.
and how you can even bear to look at him, never mind ask if you are being unreasonable.
You are not being unreasonable enought.
Hes an UTTER shit.
Utterly. Shame on him. Id tell him get to fuck tbh, loudly, while standing in the mess i would henceforth refuse to ever clean up again as long as he lived there.

strawberry2017 · 19/12/2024 15:19

You need to remind your husband that you had major abdominal surgery 4 weeks ago and the doctors have instructed you to take things easy. You need to be careful whilst you're healing coz if your scar rips he will have a whole lot of work to do on his hands when you have to start healing from scratch!
And whilst you're at it tell him to stop acting like a knob.

Lifeomars · 19/12/2024 15:17

LaurenOX · 19/12/2024 11:07

Sorry, I typed moths instead of weeks 🙈

I am 4 weeks PP.

That makes him even worse, so awful he should get some sort of prize for being a total pig

aloris · 19/12/2024 15:16

If you were 4 months pp, you might be unreasonable, or not, depending on what the baby is like. You are 4 weeks pp so your husband is completely unreasonable. At 4 weeks pp you are still under C section medical guidelines and the baby is feeding every couple of hours, which means you are getting very little sleep. Your house sounds quite clean for someone who is 4 weeks pp, it's just not tidy enough for your "neat freak" husband. He is more concerned with satisfying his obsessive need for tidiness than with the health of his wife and therefore I deem him a complete jerk. I know you said he is "amazing" after people pointed out how awful he is being, but IMO the way he is treating a woman who just had major abdominal surgery and is looking after a newborn, is unforgiveable.

1234567HoHo · 19/12/2024 15:15

Omg OP.

I'd be tempted to change the locks, and leave a bag outside for him!

LouOver · 19/12/2024 15:13

And to really put it into perspective I think most of us would be saying at 4 months post partum your not unreasonable.

At 4 weeks PP, he's being abusive. It's abuse.

LouOver · 19/12/2024 15:11

He's a nasty twat. No way will he be sharing his thoughts with anyone else because i think even most macho men would be hard pressed to think it's normal to expect their OH to clean the house with newborn after abdominal surgery.

I hate that this is true. But is your mum and dad around to have a word with him as he clearly can't see sense?

ClarityClankrantt · 19/12/2024 15:01

Husband is a cunt.

LookItsMeAgain · 19/12/2024 15:00

@LaurenOX - you wrote "He does his fair share of house work, he does all DIY he does have a stressful job which takes up some evenings of his time but he is still very much a hands on dad"

I'll try to break this down for you.
He does his fair share of house work - because he contributes his fair share to creating the house work, be it laundry, vacuuming, doing the dishes, dusting, cooking. He contributes to making the house work so it's only fair that he does the house work too.
He does all DIY - this doesn't mean he should get a medal for doing it. I'm sure there is something in the house that you do 100% of without even batting an eyelash. Think what that might be and there's your equivalent. If he wasn't around you'd either learn yourself or you'd pay someone to do it for you.
He does have a stressful job - So do you. It's called being a full time mother.
He is still very much a hands on dad - Ah, he gets to spend quality time with the kids being a 'Disney' parent, doing the fun stuff while you are released to do the Cinderella stuff, like housework, right? It's never that he is a hands on Dad while you take yourself off to a hotel or spa for the day or down to the pub (whatever his equivalent might be).

So, based on your posts, I really don't think I'd be rolling out the red carpet for him based on his comments to you. I realise it is easy for me to sit behind a keyboard and type this but you have to think is this something that I want to live with, to have said to me, is it acceptable and then you decide what you want next.

Whatifitallgoesright · 19/12/2024 14:59

Can he not take over bath time with the baby then he can have some quality time with them and you can hang out with the older child?

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