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I will let it go, but this has annoyed me

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JMSA · 18/12/2024 21:52

We recently had a charity event at the school where I work, to help our families most in need this Christmas. We collected many donations from the public, and donated many items ourselves as staff. It was all good quality secondhand toys, clothing, books, toiletries (ok, the toiletries were new!), some household stuff, etc. It was well attended and our families were delighted. However we had a lot of items left over at the end, and I arranged for a charity shop to collect them in their van. Everyone's a winner, or so I thought.
As planned, the charity shop driver picked up all the leftover stuff today. I had pupils and members of staff helping him, and off the man went with our thanks ... and a shedload of donations.
Not long afterwards, I had a missed call from the charity shop manager on my mobile. I didn't pick up, as that's not always appropriate to do in class. Next thing, he has phoned the school and the office staff put him through to me. He told me he was phoning to complain. He said that he had told me that they were not accepting donations of toys. Folks, I can hand on heart say that this did not happen. He told me in advance that they were not accepting donations of children's clothing, and that was fine. I removed them from the bundle. However I can tell you hand on heart that I had told him we had many toys, and he said that was great. I mean, it was a charity event at a school! And the driver took it all without saying anything.
The manager told me that I had made a 'horrible situation' for him, and that the majority of the toys would have to be thrown away, which would cost the charity shop money.
I pointed out to him that he absolutely hadn't told me that they weren't accepting toys, and he sniffly said 'well, it doesn't matter now' and pretty much hung up the phone.
This was HIS mistake. And I'm fucked off that the donations we collected tirelessly will go to waste at Christmas, of all times. And that he phoned me at my work to complain.
I am usually the kind of person to doubt myself in situations, and to think 'well, maybe he did say that.' But I know in all certainty that I'm right.
Should I complain or let it go?

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AlbertCamusflage · 26/12/2024 09:28

Definitely don't complain. I can understand that it is upsetting for you. Horrible to feel that you are being 'judged' in relation to a misunderstanding that wasn't your fault. But honestly I think most people (including the guy himself now that he has let off steam) will just see it as one of those things, without really ascribing any fault to anyone at all.

What is most telling about the story is that all that stuff is just a problem, not a resource. The people who donated it wanted rid of it, the school needed rid of it when it wasn't bought, now the charity shop needs rid of it.

The issue is one of waste removal. Charities often end up in a situation where they are having to deal with waste and be grateful for it. Mad world.

RustyBear · 26/12/2024 08:57

Marchitectmummy · 24/12/2024 07:39

Annoyed or not if you can't take them back then it pretty much doesn't change anything.

Most charity shops do not accept toys, and haven't for a few years. Only certain sellers can sell toys for under 3 now also.

My guess is he said clothes meaning toys...I can't think of one shop that doesn't sell kids clothes, we donate to different places kids clothes and they are snapped up.

Which charity shops don’t sell toys? Every single one in our town does, including ones obviously for under 3s.

theresabluebirdinmyheart · 25/12/2024 06:43

slashlover · 25/12/2024 06:24

All these charity shops that don’t want books, don’t want toys, don’t want children’s clothes, turn their noses up at perfectly good dining tables and coffee tables because of a minuscule mark, they don’t want electrical goods because they have to PAT test them… what exactly do they want donated to them?

Things which will sell.

Books - we take books, we sell them for 10p each. We still send 20-30 crates per week away to be recycled. I can understand why a small shop without those facilities wouldn't take them.

Toys - We take toys, but a lot go to the rag man. People will "donate" broken toys, board games with bits missing etc. Nobody is going to buy a half completed coloring book. We've had jigsaws donated where the donor has helpfully circled on the front where the missing pieces are.

Childrens clothes - some sell but nobody is buying a Primark tee which cost 90p new. We sell babygrows at 10 for £1 and still don't sell many.

Furniture can be tricky as we don't deliver, a dining table without chairs isn't a big seller, even though it's second hand people are still picky.

PAT testers charge per item but have a minimum price per visit. We have had to cancel a visit before if we didn't have enough items. Small shops often don't have a contracted PAT tester for this reason.

There's a thought from customers that we should be grateful for every donation when a lot of them don't think if their donation is sellable. I await the inevitable annoyance from them in January because we won't accept Christmas trees.

Things that will sell.

well obviously. I don’t offer shite, only stuff i would buy myself . Including brand new in the box adidas kids trainers and told no we don’t take kids clothes or shoes. Mental.

Poppins21 · 25/12/2024 06:34

slashlover · 25/12/2024 06:24

All these charity shops that don’t want books, don’t want toys, don’t want children’s clothes, turn their noses up at perfectly good dining tables and coffee tables because of a minuscule mark, they don’t want electrical goods because they have to PAT test them… what exactly do they want donated to them?

Things which will sell.

Books - we take books, we sell them for 10p each. We still send 20-30 crates per week away to be recycled. I can understand why a small shop without those facilities wouldn't take them.

Toys - We take toys, but a lot go to the rag man. People will "donate" broken toys, board games with bits missing etc. Nobody is going to buy a half completed coloring book. We've had jigsaws donated where the donor has helpfully circled on the front where the missing pieces are.

Childrens clothes - some sell but nobody is buying a Primark tee which cost 90p new. We sell babygrows at 10 for £1 and still don't sell many.

Furniture can be tricky as we don't deliver, a dining table without chairs isn't a big seller, even though it's second hand people are still picky.

PAT testers charge per item but have a minimum price per visit. We have had to cancel a visit before if we didn't have enough items. Small shops often don't have a contracted PAT tester for this reason.

There's a thought from customers that we should be grateful for every donation when a lot of them don't think if their donation is sellable. I await the inevitable annoyance from them in January because we won't accept Christmas trees.

The OP concern is how it was handled not that they do not take certain items. Manners cost nothing and the charity shop managers behaviour was not good by all accounts.

Poppins21 · 25/12/2024 06:31

Deathraystare · 24/12/2024 07:31

If it really pissed you off it might be worth writing a letter to their head office telling all and let them know that next year you will go with a better charity that corresponds better!

I would write to the head office. I use to work in senior management in a charity and I can tell you many charity shop managers did not behave as we instructed. Look at the charity website and aim to speak to finance director they don’t get many calls from the public and will probably take your concerns onboard. And I would never fund raise or donate to that charity again. Merry Christmas

slashlover · 25/12/2024 06:24

All these charity shops that don’t want books, don’t want toys, don’t want children’s clothes, turn their noses up at perfectly good dining tables and coffee tables because of a minuscule mark, they don’t want electrical goods because they have to PAT test them… what exactly do they want donated to them?

Things which will sell.

Books - we take books, we sell them for 10p each. We still send 20-30 crates per week away to be recycled. I can understand why a small shop without those facilities wouldn't take them.

Toys - We take toys, but a lot go to the rag man. People will "donate" broken toys, board games with bits missing etc. Nobody is going to buy a half completed coloring book. We've had jigsaws donated where the donor has helpfully circled on the front where the missing pieces are.

Childrens clothes - some sell but nobody is buying a Primark tee which cost 90p new. We sell babygrows at 10 for £1 and still don't sell many.

Furniture can be tricky as we don't deliver, a dining table without chairs isn't a big seller, even though it's second hand people are still picky.

PAT testers charge per item but have a minimum price per visit. We have had to cancel a visit before if we didn't have enough items. Small shops often don't have a contracted PAT tester for this reason.

There's a thought from customers that we should be grateful for every donation when a lot of them don't think if their donation is sellable. I await the inevitable annoyance from them in January because we won't accept Christmas trees.

theresabluebirdinmyheart · 24/12/2024 21:23

All these charity shops that don’t want books, don’t want toys, don’t want children’s clothes, turn their noses up at perfectly good dining tables and coffee tables because of a minuscule mark, they don’t want electrical goods because they have to PAT test them… what exactly do they want donated to them?

I stopped bothering years ago, they are so ungrateful and rude, it’s easier to just give the stuff away to people on gumtree for free.

slashlover · 24/12/2024 19:57

SwisswolvesLilley · 24/12/2024 14:15

Yes, his job to decide what he sells in his shop, NOT his job to decide what others will and won't want. As a charity shop manager he should also ensure donations his shop don't want/need are passed on responsibly to other outlets, not merely thrown away. The guy had a shitty attitude and it astounds me the people on here prepared to make excuses for him.

After you've worked in a charity shop for a while, you learn what your customers do and don't want. What other outlets do you think they should be sent to? There are donations we get that the rag man won't even take.

I love people saying what he should and should not do when they have zero charity shop experience.

Saschka · 24/12/2024 14:24

Lemonadeand · 24/12/2024 08:11

What charity shop isn’t accepting children’s clothes? 🙄 never mind, your intentions were good and it wasn’t your fault.

Oh loads near us don’t - they just sell adult clothes. There’s only one locally (Barnardo’s) that accepts children’s clothes. Scope, hospice, Cancer Research, Crisis etc all don’t. Cancer Research actually told me they only accept new with tags on as secondhand doesn’t sell (I was trying to donate Sweaty Betty, Hobbs etc, not rags!). This is Camberwell not Kensington.

All of which is fine if they tell you that upfront. There are clothes recycling bins locally you can put used clothes into if charity shops don’t want them.

SwisswolvesLilley · 24/12/2024 14:15

SparkyBlue · 24/12/2024 14:08

@SwisswolvesLilley it is actually his job to decide what to sell and what not to sell. My friend worked as a manager of a large charity shop for several years. She had a strong retail background and her job was to make as much money as she could and she had set targets and goals the same as she would have had in any high street retailer

Yes, his job to decide what he sells in his shop, NOT his job to decide what others will and won't want. As a charity shop manager he should also ensure donations his shop don't want/need are passed on responsibly to other outlets, not merely thrown away. The guy had a shitty attitude and it astounds me the people on here prepared to make excuses for him.

SparkyBlue · 24/12/2024 14:08

@SwisswolvesLilley it is actually his job to decide what to sell and what not to sell. My friend worked as a manager of a large charity shop for several years. She had a strong retail background and her job was to make as much money as she could and she had set targets and goals the same as she would have had in any high street retailer

latetothefisting · 24/12/2024 11:41

is it a national charity? If so I'd contact head office to complain. The idea is to encourage people to give, not put them off!

TonTonMacoute · 24/12/2024 11:26

Donating to charity shops is a complete nightmare these days. We have had a big clear out following having work done on our house. In addition MIL died two years ago and we are still trying to clear her house.

Frankly, some of the charity shop managers treat you like dirt for daring to donate the 'wrong' stuff.

AlexisP90 · 24/12/2024 11:15

The attitude and defensiveness of him shows he has probably fucked up and knows it.

People get like that.

I would just forget it. It's not your fault. If you can, grab the toys back but if not just put it out of your mind and have a good Christmas.

Porcuporpoise · 24/12/2024 11:14

I agree he shouldn't be rude but it absolutely is his place to know his stock and his storage and to make decisions about which donations to accept.

SwisswolvesLilley · 24/12/2024 10:59

Porcuporpoise · 24/12/2024 09:07

No, his job is to raise money for the charity he works for, not spend yet more time and resources rehoming uwanted stuff.

His job is also to embrace the ethos of charity. If he can’t do that, he shouldn’t be working there, and it’s not his place to determine what is ‘unwanted’.

slashlover · 24/12/2024 10:52

I work in a charity shop, at this time of year we get an avalanche of toys and many other shops are refusing to take them, I wish we could but head office have said no. Everyone is having a clear out for Christmas and we've had 3 or 4 donations of the dregs of school fairs. We don't have infinite space, so everyone saying "find another charity shop" doesn't have a clue what they're talking about.

Nobody is going to be able to sell through so much a week before Christmas, we've even marked ride on toys etc. down to £1 to get rid of them. I'm sick of the "charity shops should be grateful" narrative.

theallotmentqueen · 24/12/2024 10:52

JMSA · 18/12/2024 21:52

We recently had a charity event at the school where I work, to help our families most in need this Christmas. We collected many donations from the public, and donated many items ourselves as staff. It was all good quality secondhand toys, clothing, books, toiletries (ok, the toiletries were new!), some household stuff, etc. It was well attended and our families were delighted. However we had a lot of items left over at the end, and I arranged for a charity shop to collect them in their van. Everyone's a winner, or so I thought.
As planned, the charity shop driver picked up all the leftover stuff today. I had pupils and members of staff helping him, and off the man went with our thanks ... and a shedload of donations.
Not long afterwards, I had a missed call from the charity shop manager on my mobile. I didn't pick up, as that's not always appropriate to do in class. Next thing, he has phoned the school and the office staff put him through to me. He told me he was phoning to complain. He said that he had told me that they were not accepting donations of toys. Folks, I can hand on heart say that this did not happen. He told me in advance that they were not accepting donations of children's clothing, and that was fine. I removed them from the bundle. However I can tell you hand on heart that I had told him we had many toys, and he said that was great. I mean, it was a charity event at a school! And the driver took it all without saying anything.
The manager told me that I had made a 'horrible situation' for him, and that the majority of the toys would have to be thrown away, which would cost the charity shop money.
I pointed out to him that he absolutely hadn't told me that they weren't accepting toys, and he sniffly said 'well, it doesn't matter now' and pretty much hung up the phone.
This was HIS mistake. And I'm fucked off that the donations we collected tirelessly will go to waste at Christmas, of all times. And that he phoned me at my work to complain.
I am usually the kind of person to doubt myself in situations, and to think 'well, maybe he did say that.' But I know in all certainty that I'm right.
Should I complain or let it go?

I would send an email explaining that your class/school will no longer be donating to this charity to HR and instead you will collect for another. Explain the exact reason for this - something like, 'it is difficult to work with a manager who is belittling of the time and effort myself, my class, and other staff members put into collecting for this charity. Furthermore, I cannot have another situation where it is not properly communicated to me or my peers what donations will be acceptable. This not only wastes the charities time and money, but ours'.

Basically, get it in writing that this guy has been a prick, and then ditch him for a nicer charity.

buttonousmaximous · 24/12/2024 10:50

Leave it and donate to a different charity next year.

ForReasonsUnknown · 24/12/2024 10:40

Well to be honest you’re both relying on your own memories so he realistically could be in the right 🤷‍♀️

WhatterySquash · 24/12/2024 10:07

I can’t stand this rude grumpy attitude from charity shops, it’s actually really miserable when you make an effort to recycle old things instead of binning them and get told off like some kind of semi-criminal chancer.

it’s ok they if they can’t take something and explain that so you don’t give them that, fine, maybe annoying but not their fault. But when they have a go at you - fuck off!

We have loads in our area, it’s known for them and people come here to do the charity shops, so they are popular and successful. Most of the staff are lovely. But one in particular has a man who is so rude and dismissive and sneery about what you try to donate. It’s the Bethany shop that do furniture and bigger items so some things can only go there, but I’ve stopped taking anything as he’s so horrible. (And it’s never been anything broken, dirty or rubbish, nothing like that at all.) It just goes to the recycling centre/tip instead which is a big faff but at least it will get used in some way.

I know the feelings of the person doing the donating aren’t the most important thing, but I just want to say I know how it feels OP and YANBU Xmas Angry

LinnettdeBelleforte · 24/12/2024 10:02

Porcuporpoise · 24/12/2024 09:03

Well I doubt you're more annoyed than he is @JMSA , he's the one stuck with all the stuff that no one wanted.

That's not the OP's fault, though. It was the charity's error. If he is giving anyone a bollocking, it should be the person who miscommunicated to the OP. OP, I would never deal with that charity again. I would also complain to their head office and I would also be telling everyone I knew not to donate to them unless and until I got an apology.

ElleDeeCB · 24/12/2024 09:54

I took photos of our outgrown toys and emailed them to local nurseries, playgroups and afterschool clubs. A bit of a faff for me dropping things off but I wanted them to go to places where they would be played with, instead of just going to landfill. Almost everything was snapped up!

Nazzywish · 24/12/2024 09:47

Please complain! That's awful attitude from him. Are you sure the stuff they took is even going to be sold for the charity or the cynic in me says maybe he only wanted stuff he could sell for higher prices as new.
In any case ask for the toys back and donate them to a local women's refuge/ reach out to more local foodbanks who may appreciate their families getting some toys with food or just keep them for school reception/ nursery. I really hope he didn't throw them away. And his attitude needs to be flagged up if that's the way he speaks to people who've donated so much instead of a thanks.

Christmasandallthetrimmings · 24/12/2024 09:36

Can you not just pick it up and take it to the nearest charity shop?